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06 February 2021

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Patrick Armstrong

Posted by Patrick Armstrong (BTW -- doesn't clearly show that I did post it)

Deap

Interesting timing - the same day and almost hour of the Mike Lindell 2 hour presentation regarding his offer of proof - who, what, where and how Trump votes were sabotaged.

So TIME claims the same day, it was in face a national love affair that put Biden in, to save us from Trump and save our Nation.

What do they say about there being no coincidences in politics. Next chapter - see you in court - all parties concerned. The 2020 election saga continues. Benghazi had to go through multiple hearings to get it past how many rigged in-house and compromised prior "investigations"?

EU called this one right - NO electronic voting ever again - way, way, way too easy to compromise.

Lynda Brayer

So the unmailed mail-in ballots, the unfolded mail-in ballots, the algorithms awarding Biden more than 1 for every vote, and dropping it below one for Trump in the voting machines, the loss of votes already counted, the double, triple, quadruple and quintuple counting of one vote, the late votes, the cross state votes, the votes of the dead, the votes of those not domiciled in the state in which a vote was cast in a person's name, all these were actions taken to preserve the integrity of the elections.

I wonder what would be needed to show the elections were on the up and up, or, on the contrary, to show that there had been tampering!

Reading the article provides insight into how facts can be twisted to suit the official line.

To what depths has the duopoly descended.

Valissa

The Dems brazenly telegraphed they were going to steal the election with the article on the so-called Red Mirage. Now they are gloating and trying to sound noble with their apologia for their success. The Republicans are as bad if not worse, as they play the role of the Washington Generals while the Dems play the Harlem Globetrotters.

From my quotations archive, these struck me as most relevant:

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized.” --
Edward Bernays (1928)

“A society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial: this is when its ruling class has lost its function but succeeds in clinging to power by force or fraud.” -- George Orwell

“We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis

“Power is the ability to define phenomena.” - Huey Newton, the cofounder of the Black Panther Party

blue peacock

This Time article, seems more of an indictment of Trump, his campaign and the RNC. What were they doing as Secretary's of State and others were changing rules of election conduct and organizing ballot delivery and the ballot counts? Busy, tweeting I suppose in the case of Trump, instead of doing the heavy lifting. IMO, the next leader of the Deplorables, if they are to be successful in their battle with the Party of Davos will have to be by definition far more competent and ruthless.

Deap

What were you doing while Democrats were trying to steal the election? At least in California, Gov Newsom was taken to court, which issued a "No Covid Exception" ruling that stopped his brand of election power grabbing in its tracks. But this was done well before the election.

Covid porn was so rampant, it is hard to re-engineer now what abuses were carried out in its name. We are all gonna die and you are killing granny. Remember? Could Trump power through that level of Democrat ginned up covid porn - we all take responsibility on that "failure".

A real game changer for Democrats to slip in and attack anyone who protested election law changes - ad hoc or under the color of law - it was a tough call to take on the "health and safety" covid fears Democrats exploited. And are still exploiting.

Trump is supposed to intervene in state laws and operations? No, local state residents do that.

Should his campaign been the only ones trying to stop state law abuses - many of which were happening on election day and on the fly - with no forewarning?

States complacent about Democrat over-reach would not be good candidates for any sort of Presidential campaign interventions. So it happened. Can't agree Trump should have or needed to do more. His plate was already full.

No, voters should have done more. But they didn't, And now those who did rise up are getting brutally canceled. What do we do about that? If you are not ready to pick up the pieces and move forward, Monday morning finger pointing is a waste of everyone's time.

In that light, I can even make peace with the Liz Cheney thing because we have to regain Congress in 2022 with the largest tent possible. Forward, hold your nose and keep moving forward. I don't have to like everything 100%. But I know I will dislike losing everything 100% if we don't prevail with the biggest team on the filed in 2022.

Lines have been drawn and right now we have to bust up future Democrat election fraud; not whine about what happened during the Covid 2020 election. Stay focused. is the best advice today. Lick wounds, cast blame or march on to victory tomorrow with a solid agenda?

Rick Merlotti

It is a confession. They feel so confident in their power that they tell the world how its done. A conspiracy of "good guys", in the way they think about it.

fakebot

Very interesting. I found this from Patrick Byrne of equal interest. It shows how badly Trump and his people fumbled the ball:

https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/02/how-djt-lost-the-white-house-chapter-4-the-christmas-doldrums-december-23-noon-january-6/

On the morning of January 6, Flynn and I and a dozen others walked over to the south side of the White House. We were surprised that no special arrangements had been made for us, and we had to fight our way through the throngs. We were both given speakers’ badges, seated in a special section up front…. then learned that our speaking slots had been cancelled. We were perplexed, to put it mildly, wondering whom they could get that would possibly explain the situation as well as we could…

The show started, and soon Flynn and I were sinking into our seats in despair. One of Trump’s children got up and sang “Happy Birthday” to a girlfriend, or boyfriend. Rudy got up and spoke about Joe Frazier voting, again. Another lawyer got up and spoke. Don Jr. got up and with his chest puffed out, strode the stage talking about how the Republican brand was now the Trump brand, or the Trump brand was now the Republican brand, or something about branding. Around that time, Flynn and I caught eyes and shared looks of horror: it turned out later we were both asking if the other wanted to leave, but misunderstood each other. It was so bad that someone with some sense among the organizers had a change of heart, and came running over to ask General Flynn if he would take the stage: he refused. The shenaigans went on for an hour or more, then Trump appeared and spoke, much as he would at any campaign event or pep rally. In fact, the whole thing was more or less a pep rally: no effort was made to explain to the crowd, to the Americans who were watching at home, to the Senators who would begin voting in an hour, to the world that counts on America to be the leader of free, fair, and transparent elections, what had really gone wrong with the November 2020 election, and why we believed there were deep irregularities demanding investigation. No effort at all.

Instead, it was a pep rally. That’s it. A Trump pep rally.

The moment we could make a break from the front, Flynn and I and everyone with us made a dash for the exit. Flynn could barely contain his fury as we shared impressions: this had been the one last chance to explain the situation to the whole world, and instead Trump had used it as a pep rally. “He just does not get it,” we repeated to each other as we stormed through the crowd back towards the hotel. “He does not get that it is not about him. He put on a fucking pep rally. He does not understand that this is not about him,” we repeated over and over in anger and despair. In 15 minutes we were back at the hotel, both packing our bags, both sick to our stomachs, and did not leave to join the throngs moving towards the Capitol.

There's a lot more written out in a series of articles Byrne posted on that website, but I felt this pretty much summed up the frustration that many people have with Trump and why he lost.

robt willmann

The Time magazine article, "The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election", is also at this url location--

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

longarch

In my opinion, the "cabal" praised by Time magazine broke RICO statutes.

Furthermore, as Deap mentioned,
Lindell has posted:

https://rumble.com/vdlfht-absolute-proof-mike-lindells-2020-election-fraud-documentary.html


I would be greatly interested in professional judgements on the following from Clapper:

https://rumble.com/vdf4nn-james-clapper-interrogation-2.html

Also relevant:


https://politicalvelcraft.org/2020/12/22/the-smartmatic-black-hole/

The Twisted Genius

Pretty much tracks with the much publicized efforts of Stacey Abrams to stop voter suppresion in Georgia and elsewhere and increase Democratic voter turnout. After Kemp disenrolled over 600,000 registered votes in 2017, mostly minority, she devoted herself to that cause. The increase in absentee voting was a fluke of Covid-19, but it gutted the normal Republican suppression tactics of minimizing voting places and sufficient voting machines in minority precincts. I was surprised the Republicans didn't do more to bolster those tactics. Lejoy's effort to crush the USPS was the biggest response. Nationwide there are now ther are over 100 state legislative measures to suppress the kind of voter turnout we had in 2020.

elaine

www.oann.com lists the scheduling for the next 10 replays of Mike
Lindell's "Absolute Proof", a series of graphs & interviews about
the 2020 election(s). I've tried watching it 2X & only grasp his
arguments in general terms. I'd find it interesting to hear feedback
from those of you with a better understanding of technology.
oann.com is the webpage for One American News Network on cable tv.

BTW it's 2 hours in length. An attorney I know said court challenges
to the election were rejected siting "latchings"aka as latches, not standing issues.

Fred

Patrick,

The left is trying to get ahead of the narrative as the news can't be suppressed, try as they might. That includes cancelling Lou Dobbs, who has the highest rated show on FBN. He's unabashed in his support for Trump's policies and for the man himself. In addition Facebook is now coming out saying their suppression of commentary on hydroxychloriquine in fighting the (don't we dare call it the China virus) Covid 19 virus. [see how wonderful oversight is now, trust us!] Shocking, isn't it? Along with that the police are having a hard time with figuring out how to charge anyone with murdering the capital hill police officer who died of an apparent stroke.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-02-05/fox-news-cancels-lou-dobbs-tonight
Maybe Lou should go to another network just to spite those people; and to get the message out.
https://wearechange.org/facebook-oversight-reverses-hydroxychloroquine-censorship-decision/

Deap

At this point, Lindell presenting the election fraud evidence is not about over-turning the election (this would be your laches defense).

It is now presenting the defamation defense case evidence - that is what the election system companies are now putting on the table and demanding Powell, Lindell, et all to finally present their evidence in court.

As they say, truth is the absolute defense to the charge of defamation. Each side gets to present their case - which presently is happening in the court of public opinion as the first shots across the bow. Lindell did not blink.

A heavy case of extra-judicial brinksmanship is getting played right now. With the formal case filing, it will be in the hands of the court and possible jury to decide if the defamation truth defense meets its evidentiary burden.

Voting systems case - you said bad things about me. Pay up.
Defense - they were all true. Talk to my hand.
Case closed.

Additionally, since it appears these companies claimed there was no absolutely "internet connection", it looks like they might have some 'splainin' to do.

They were the ones who put their systems internet connectivity into contention when they filed their defamation cases against Team Powell et al., so any internet connectivity now becomes a material part of the case for the defense.

Good time to link that spreadsheet showing the status of all the other court cases (30-40?) still pending that have not yet reached evidentiary hearings on the facts; and have not been dismissed on other grounds.


"Interconnectivity" then also becomes part of any breach of contract actions by the state and county jurisdictions if the voting systems claimed there was no possible internet connect ability and this was a material part of any contract for their services.

At this point, one can assume it is a rapidly "evolving" situation. Lindell showed the hand he, and others, intends to play.

So tangentially it is about the "election", but now only in terms of the playing field where the abuses took place; and not to overturn the outcome of the electoral college certified election.

Though one could certainly ask if one who learns they had "won" by fraudulent means, would it be appropriate to continue holding that office?

More interesting is what is the measure of damages? Can they link loss of future revenues, monetize loss of reputation if they can prove fraud? You can sue for whatever amount you want in a civil case, but this financial outcome still belongs to the judge and jury.

Dr Jill might want to hold off on redecorating the WH until this is all settled. That would demonstrate good sportsmanship until 'President Elect Biden" decides how he really wants to "win" this election. All things considered. Much too early for any final decision as to the ethics of "winning" an election if a case for a fraudulent election system is established. Big if. Even bigger... when.

If Powell, Lindell et al lose on the defamation claims, then any other election charges could be moot. However, if they win against the voting systems defamation claims, then all sorts of auxiliary consequences by other damaged parties can flow from that outcome.

The media will naturally gaslight the heck out of this, unless they are finally having misgivings themselves about the Biden-Harris team and their back room cronies real agenda

Powell spent years slugging it out over the government against Enron case, and she ultimately won. Though the forest had long burned down due to finally proven federal prosecutor abuses. I suspect this too will be the case in this curious "2020 election". The case may finally be settled, but long after it matters materially to #46.

Who in fact was the target for the Lindell proof presentation: the media; the plaintiffs; the Biden administration; the public; the parties affected; or the defendants themselves?

turcopolier

TTG

"After Kemp disenrolled over 600,000 registered votes in 2017, mostly minority," Any evidence for that other then impassioned leftist statements?

Jose

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Don't take the bait, the Dems have destroyed themselves for 2022.

Don't let them off the hook by turning attentions of this article.

Focus the humiliating the Dems at the impeachment, make America realize just how bad these charges are.

Focus on the fact the two-thirds of solar panels are made in China..lol

Fred

TTG,

"After Kemp disenrolled over 600,000 registered votes in 2017"

Which crimes did he commit? What evidence do you have?

"I was surprised the Republicans didn't do more to bolster those tactics."

Maybe there never was any Republican voter suppression, especially considering it is always said to be happening in cities run by Democrats. What effort to "crush" the postal service are you talking about?

Fred

Jose,

The impeachment is a show trial, not an opportunity for Trump to produce evidence of fraud. (which the trial 'judges' aren't about to let be introduced.)

Les

It looks like they tightened up laws, regulations, and procedures so that Trump lawsuits would fail. The lawsuits are predicated on exploiting irregularities in the polling to throw out votes. It's very smart to anticipate what crooked lawyers might do to steal the election.

Trump is a phony. He is a product of nepotism and the epitome of someone who's never answered to anyone outside his family in the working world. He's incapable of structuring problems and solutions in a way that can be clearly understood. He is always pointing fingers because he's a screwup on the job.

Barbara Ann

Fred

Meanwhile I see from the WSJ that "investigators" have suggested Ashli Babbitt's killer should not face prosecution. The execution on camera of an unarmed woman who posed no threat is not evidence of a crime it seems.

A. Pols

It does read like a confession in a sense. Of course it purports to depict a grassroots campaign to "secure democracy", but it also reveals what was indeed a "vast left wing conspiracy" to turn Hillary's phraseology inside out. All the various pieces come together as an organized conspiracy to ensure the election's outcome and it was indeed far more than the usual spate of partisan fervor that accompanies the quadrennial ceremony. From the moment of Trumps election the Democrat party engaged in a non stop campaign of vilification and persecution against Trump and all conservatives, all to marginalize and cancel as much as possible. And activists made concerted efforts to gain control of polling places. All these people coordinated their efforts through social media and other means. I could see it happening on my local level. Meanwhile Republicans were largely passive bystanders. It should be remembered that the Bolsheviks were actually, despite the name, a minority group, but they were an organized minority and that made all the difference. Taleb writes about the phenomenon of minority rule and how it works. This explains why recent road projects in my area have ended up allocating close to 50% of pavement to bicyclists and pedestrians even though very few of either actually use those roads. "Conspire: to breath together"

srw

Interesting article. I guess Chris Krebs, Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency until Trump fired him, was right when he said the election was the fair. What's scary is that this bipartisan group had to come together to ensure a fair election. This should be automatic. The Economist has an article on the sad state of democracy this year of the pandemic. They rated the various countries with the US rated as a "flawed democracy" probably due to voter suppression and gerrymandering. Maybe we need some national election laws setting minimum standards for elections so states or parties can't game them.

Lefty_Blaker

Colonel,

The voter suppression stats that TTG mentioned come from the journalist Greg Palast who worked for a long time to unearth the details of the voter purges by Kemp in Georgia. He has many articles about. Try this one which details how he got the list of purged voters and what he did to try to stop Kemp. https://www.gregpalast.com/gops-brian-kemp-purged-1-in-10-georgia-voters-ive-got-the-names/

The Twisted Genius

pl and Fred,

Kemp and voter suppression in Georgia has been well covered in the press. Here's two articles from Atlanta:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/voter-purge-begs-question-what-the-matter-with-georgia/YAFvuk3Bu95kJIMaDiDFqJ/

https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/georgia-cancels-fewer-voter-registrations-after-surge-last-year/fqT1bcSzGu33UEpTMDzMVK/

Just do a search for" Georgia voter suppression" and see what's going on now. Hell, even a search for "California voter suppression" shows problems with insufficient polling places in poorer and minority precincts. All this is done legally. That's what Abrams spent the last two years countering. After Trump's loss, Republican state legislatures are doubling down on enacting laws to suppress the vote in future elections. The last thing Republicans want is high voter turnout or anything approaching universal voting.

aka

This type of "confessions" aka boasts will be much more in time.

After all, it is a loose and strange coalition.
Too much glory is there to be the leader/leaders of this great "democratic revolution".
Each confession will emerge with more and more details because otherwise, it is not going to be NEWS.

Well, at least that is how it went down in my country.
I just hope this "revolution" goes better than in ours in the next four years.

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