(Air Pelosi)
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a "60 Minutes" interview that aired Sunday night that one of the motivating factors for some in the new effort to impeach President Trump and remove him from office is to eliminate any chance he has of being elected again." foxnews
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Well, pilgrims, IMO the elimination of a re-run with Trump is the ONLY motivation for the farce intended by the giddy but still apprehensive Donkeyland crew.
To accomplish this they need to impeach Trump while he is still in office because impeachment in the US is about REMOVAL of incumbents. The Donkeys claim that they could then wait 90 days to have their captive senate try Trump on the charge of "incitement of insurrection." IMO such a trial would be unconstitutional but with John Roberts as Chief Justice, who knows whether SCOTUS would allow that? They would need a few Never Trump Republicans to have enough votes in the senate but with people like Romney on board, who knows?
And then! Wait for it! The piece de resistance would be a second vote in the senate to bar Trump from FEDERAL office for life. Aahhh! So good! So good! An aged marine once said "if it feels really, really good, it is probably a bad idea." Yes.
IMO Trump needs to resign NOW to put himself beyond the reach of congress. He could still be indicted and tried in a Title 3 court, but the odds are a lot better there.
He is a resident of Florida. Congress does not have the power to bar him from state office. Governor might be a good retirement job when DeSantis moves on to a national role. John Quincy Adams was a congressman for many years AFTER being president. pl
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-60-minutes-trump-impeachment
"a second vote in the senate to bar Trump from FEDERAL office for life. "
Wouldn't that effectively be a bill of attainder?
Posted by: Fred | 11 January 2021 at 09:48 AM
Fred
IMO it would but subject to test in federal court.
Posted by: turcopolier | 11 January 2021 at 09:51 AM
If that was his plan he's have done it by now. Trump's talent has always been to goad his opponent into overplaying their hand. I don't have much hope in Kunstler's thesis that Trump is about drop the hammer on the commies, but he can force them to out themselves. This weekends coordinated media lockdown is a straight up big-brother type move that even retards should recognize as tyranny.
Posted by: EEngineerq | 11 January 2021 at 10:05 AM
I agree with the Bill of Attainder view mentioned by Fred. As such it is unconstitutional on its face and anybody voting for it is blatantly and patently violating the oath of office. I don't know if such official oaths are made under penalty of perjury, but, at the least, it looks bad. Especially since the facts show that the propaganda mills have made mountains out of molehills on this, and the most serious rioting was probably done by agents provocateurs from Soros and/or the spy state, it all looks like a propaganda setup similar to what the Nazis used to consolidate their power. They also have a list of edicts to enact similar to the Reichstag fire decrees.
Posted by: Exiled off mainstreet | 11 January 2021 at 01:53 PM
The hundred day delay thing is pretty interesting. I'd be tempted to attribute careful forethought to someone were these happenings not so utterly banal and amateur. So I'm not going to try to figure it out. Clownshow.
Posted by: Fourth and Long | 11 January 2021 at 02:32 PM
A tribute to Trump "I did it my way" - horning the four long good years of President Donald J Trump - and canceling the Democrats vicious version of 1.5 hours at Capitol a few days ago:
https://politicrossing.com/donald-trumps-latest-commercial-is-epic/
Posted by: Deap | 11 January 2021 at 05:11 PM
Exiled off mainstreet,
Why do you assume that other people did the worst rioting? I think some (certainly not all) of the Trump supporters were upset when they went to DC and that Trump riled them up and they riled themselves up a lot more and that's how we got what happened at the Capitol.
There may be more to come. ABC News says:
"Armed protests being planned at all 50 state capitols, FBI bulletin says
An internal FBI note obtained by ABC News shows warnings of "a huge uprising."
"The FBI has also received information in recent days on a group calling for “storming” state, local and federal government courthouses and administrative buildings in the event President Donald Trump is removed from office prior to Inauguration Day. The group is also planning to “storm” government offices in every state the day President-elect Joe Biden will be inaugurated, regardless of whether the states certified electoral votes for Biden or Trump.
"The FBI received information about an identified armed group intending to travel to Washington, DC on 16 January," the bulletin read. "They have warned that if Congress attempts to remove POTUS via the 25th Amendment, a huge uprising will occur.
Federal law enforcement officials have advised police agencies to increase their security posture at statehouses around the country following the riot at the U.S. Capitol, law enforcement sources told ABC News."
I wouldn't put it past the mysterious people involved with Antifa to impersonate Trump supporters. But I haven't seen any proof that they have and I also think the Trump supporters are perfectly capable of doing what happened at the Capitol -- and more.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/armed-protests-planned-50-state-capitols-fbi-bulletin/story?id=75179771&cid=clicksource_4380645_6_heads_hero_live_hero_hed
Posted by: jerseycityjoan | 11 January 2021 at 05:38 PM
jerseycityjoan:
The FBI, department of Injustice and the rest of the deep state all work for the Democratic party.
I believe them as much as we can believe Deep State can not find any evidence of voter fraud.
The Dems are terrified that they and their allies have over-played their hand and people will vote them out in 2022.
Trump greatest gift is letting people realize just how stupid their leaders are, including himself.
Rome ... at its most decadent, had never thought of hiring an actor to go through the motions of being an emperor while the Praetorian Guard ruled. - Author: Gore Vidal
Bill of Attender with a Star Chamber trail, only thing missing is Richard Rich, 1st Baron Rich, google him..lol
BTW, Nancy Pelosi is coordinating with the Generals to stop Trump from acting irrational, the shame to the uniform.
Posted by: Jose | 12 January 2021 at 01:17 AM
So much pissing into the sea. Trump has outlived his usefulness to us politically, and the establishment has just shown us it can now fix any election it wants anyway. At this point, there's only one thing left for the people to do ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTDOoXd6EXs
One good thing about Trump though: at least he forced them to show their true face. Let us pray it is not too late.
Posted by: Seamus Padraig | 12 January 2021 at 04:50 AM
Fred: "Wouldn't that effectively be a bill of attainder?"
The House must first vote for Impeachment, and the Senate must then hold a trial and reach a conviction, and only then can the Senate hold a subsequent vote to ban the convicted person from ever again holding federal office.
The process is laid out in the Constitution, ergo, due process is built into the proceedings. Which to my mind makes it very different from a Bill of attainder.
Having said that, I believe the entire process (impeachment, trial, conviction) must be concluded before the person leaves office because that is the entire point of that process.
If the office-holder leaves before the Senate can hold that trial then the proceedings become a moot point and should not be allowed to continue.
Or, put another way: nothing in the Constitution hints at a "hot-pursuit" provision w.r.t. trial and conviction in the Senate.
Use-it-or-lose-it, and if that isn't possible then the Senate can not subsequently hold a second vote to ban him from future office.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | 12 January 2021 at 06:41 AM
jerseycityjoan,
"An internal FBI note obtained by ABC News..."
Is that "anonymous" the jr. trump hating staff member who wrote the book of the same name or a different un named person at the FBI conveniently releasing inuendo that will see any assembly by any Republican anywhere is going to be met by the same anonymous complaints of "Danger!". Unlike the mostly peaceful BLM/Antifa assemblies where the FBI takes a knee.
"I wouldn't put it past the mysterious people involved with Antifa to impersonate Trump supporters. But I haven't seen any proof that they have...."
How many links would you like? Would a "never Trumper" false flag work? See here:
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/425537/#respond
Posted by: Fred | 12 January 2021 at 08:33 AM
Don't overlook the leaked "Sunrise" video of federal employees in DC plotting how they can sabotage Trump from within, should he win a second term.
This video got scrubbed naturally, but copies are still floating around. Deserves another look because all the seeds of the Capitol incident are part of their game plan.
Posted by: Deap | 12 January 2021 at 12:15 PM
Ted Nugent takes a powerful pass on Biden's call for "unity" in an open letter:
https://politicrossing.com/ted-nugents-open-letter-to-joe-biden/
Should we wait for a Biden and Democrat apology for the past four years of pounding lies, and then we can talk. But why, then we would be only a one-party nation. Loyal opposition has always been a noble part of this Great American Experiment.
Democrats are aspirational; Republicans are pragmatic. Unify that, Biden. Mowing ups down with your bull headed rhetoric is not a pragmatic option. Nor do we want your fiscally ruinous and ideologically bankrupt aspirations.
Pragmatic aspirations - and we might have a deal. But that is what the GOP has been all about all along anyway. How did you miss this? You were too busy name-calling and villifying anyone with an R by their name to even listen.
Start listening and drop the blaming and you can take the temperature of the room down to something livable.
Posted by: Deap | 12 January 2021 at 05:12 PM