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15 January 2021

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Steve Ogle

Let them keep on digging. So 80 million who voted for Trump are the only ones they think about controlling? What about all the others who didn't vote? Its like the gift that keeps on giving. Eventually everyone shows who they really are. Let them shut down the internet and alternative view points. Self destructing like a slow moving train wreck.

Eric Newhill

I confess that between the usual intense work load at the office and all of, what I believe to be the very stupid and undesirable, fast moving, transformative socio-political events of the past 12 months, I am reaching a point of mental stupification. The steady state of frustration, anger, outrage and isolation has done its job on me. I'm becoming numb and dull; burned out. Probably exactly what they want.

So the following suggestion might sound totally brain dead, but here it is anyhow. Since 75 million Americans apparently aren't going to pick up their weapons and deal with this head on, since many of our elected reps are going to cuck out and they're a minority anyhow - and we do need to fight back to save the country - the question is, how do we fight? IMO, we should delve into wokeness at a level that exceeds the Left's own participation with it. We know that they are cynical, hypocritical and using it as a weapon, thus they are exposed. We should deploy a pure version of wokeness that applies to everyone equally and in all circumstances. We know that wokeness, applied totally, will paralyze the system and destroy targeted individuals. Rather than purge our enemies with raw firepower, we turn their own passive-agressive weapon against them. We especially attack the fence sitters, the finger in the wind types. Then when max universal wokeness has been achieved, we run anti-woke candidates that actually have a deeper patriotic agenda. IMO, at some point, the average citizen will be so fed up with the ravages of wokeness that they will vote for our candidates. Also, many of the original wokies will have been destroyed by their own methods and the survivors will be eager to put an end to the whole thing. Yes, there would be destruction, but we'd have destruction in a real shooting civil war. At least most of the infrastructure would still be in tact when the war of words and accusations ends.

Deap

This movement to cancel "racist conservatives" explains why Larry Elder's excellent documentary 'Uncle Tom" - the voices of black conservatives -- was snubbed by the Hollywood film award's system, even though it grows in sales and positive viewer reviews..

https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/01/censored-larry-elders-uncle-tom-film/#comment-82601

One way to get this documentary the attention it deserves is to buy it, have viewing parties for friends, and donate a copies to your local schools and libraries.

Leith

Tapper is an idiot. Brian Mast is a genuine American hero. But I would hope that in the future Mast will apologize for his question in the halls of Congress on whether any one of terrorists who brought violence on this Capitol did that because of the president? It was pure theater. Did he not hear the shouting on video by many rioters that President Trump sent them? Maybe not? Maybe his choice of news sources did not show those videos? But that is no excuse. And now the Qanon Shaman with the spear, the face paint, the bison horns, and coyote fur headdress has asked President Trump for a pardon saying he was at the Capitol "answering the call of Donald Trump."

As for AOC she was right to be afraid. She has been the subject of numerous death threats. I would bet dollars to donuts that at least one set of those flex-cuffs was intended for her. She has been trash-talked and lied about since she ran for congress. She is "one of the most targeted politicians for hoax claims". Hundreds or even thousands of fake quotes have been imputed to her. Ditto for faked and photo-shopped photos of her. And false rumors about her have been spread not only on Facebook and Twitter but also 4chan and other alt-right sites. She would have to be pretty stupid not to be afraid.

AK

Leith,

I have heard enough from the estimable, (dis)honorable Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-Instagram/D-Bartender) herself to judge her to be a dolt, an ignorant fool, and an aspiring Stalinist demagogue. She gets no sympathy from me. Her own mouth and her own propaganda-addled brain have done more than enough to destroy her credibility with anyone who thinks seriously about law, politics, and economics.

So she believes red states, particularly those in the South, are oppressed and need to be liberated, eh? Only then can we heal as a nation, eh? I sincerely hope she and her legion mustered at Fort Bronx undertake the campaign. I truly do.

She is a despicable and vicious little person, likely with many of the daddy issues that Col. Lang observes in Madam Speaker. To hell with her, in perpetuity throughout the universe. I make that assessment based only on what I have heard her say first hand and how I have watched her behave. I need no other information – lies, misattributions, or otherwise.

Deap

Wow Lieth, fake quotes attributed to a political figure? Ya think, like Trump has been subjected to from Day One in 2016, and even formed the entire sum and substance of the Biden-Harris "winning" campaign in 2020?

But then "whataboutism" is a cheap shot, so I won't go one on one with you.. But so is being an AOC fanboy also a cheap shot too. Thanks for letting us know where you are coming from. It smelled that way for a long time.

Eric Newhill

Leith,
But conservatives have no right to be afraid? Have they not also been the targets of death threats and actual attacks? Are they not also the targets of un-personning?

But yeah, all us conservative rubes are incapable of seeing through the fog of our hillbilly meth, bourbon, and Walmart cheese dip (because we don't have teeth to chew regular food), to actually, you know, read actual quotes from AOC in reliable sources, read the Bills she's been involved with, etc. In our pathetic low educational state, 4chan is our go to source for news. Uh yup.

It's a good thing AOC's calls for defunding the police didn't filter up to the Capitol Police. She might have ended up like hospitalized Rand Paul and Scalise.

You are clearly not woke enough. From an AOC squad level of wokeness, Mast got what he deserved as a member of the running dog imperialist racist US military oppressing brown people. Tapper is not just an idiot. He's a racist immersed in white privilege, furthering systemic racism. Look at CNN. Look at them! Where is the diversity? Way too white. Anderson Cooper is practically an albino. What message does that send? And managed by Jews! You know how Jews oppress the Palestinians and others! Tapper is also wealthy. Anyone with over a $million or so must be made to sacrifice at least half of what they have as reparations. You agree, don't you? The CNN Board of Directors must contain at least 50% minorities. Where are the Eskimo reporters? Where are the segments hosted by Islamic personalities? Where are the trans-gender reporters? Tapper, Morning Joe, Mika, the whole lot of MSM is nothing more than a big white blob of privilege and wealth stolen from the oppressed. Check your whiteness and privilege.

optimax

Trump did not tell the protesters to storm the capitol building but he was stupid for sending them there. He should have known there were agitators in the crowd.Intelligence should have informed him, if not, common sense should have told him.

There were lefties in the riot who entered the capitol e3ven though there is no proof they were a determining factor in the stupidity that followed Trump's speech.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/rush_to_judgment_on_trump_multiple_leftists_arrested_for_capitol_riot.html

I heard AOC say she was afraid for her life. She had no sympathy for the small business owner that lost everything when the cities burned, windows broken, stores looted, people beaten and killed. The Dems supported BLM and antifa riots, in fact, egged them on. Now they want to crack down on the right because they target the source of power and not the little guy unprotected by law enforcement. Defund the capitol police.

Cortes

Eric Newhill: Your suggestion reminds me of the description of the chicken battery farm “pecking party” in Ken Kesey’s “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest”: as the first damaged bird’s injuries are noticed by neighbours they peck at it, raising blood splatter onto themselves and they, in turn, are pecked in an increasing frenzy until almost all are dead.

The intolerance being whipped up at the moment might result in a “ pecking party” without any need for input from outsiders. Just my tuppenceworth.

Deap

Accusing Trump of thought crimes now? 'He should have known".

Even the DC and Capitol police did not expect any trouble because they knew Trump supporters were some of the best behaved groups to come to Wash DC, plus they pick up after themselves. So they didn't even put out extra trash cans.

Far better to speculate what the DC and Capitol Police 'should have known" since they are the professionals, and were the ones who chose to not add additional forces.

Eric Newhill

Cortes,
Oh, I agree, but needs to be faster and guided.

My idea is to deliberately and massively turn up the (figurative!) blood splatter in congress, media and corporate land to max levels, right now, and let let the chickens have at each other. The Eagles and falcons would create enough well targeted blood (= Max Wokeness) around to get us there, fast. They would never forget that they are eagles and falcons occasionally in the disguise of chickens. But they do need to swallow their pride and outwardly act like chickens until the mission is accomplished.

There's not a damn thing Twitter or any of their ilk could do about it. Can't cancel super-wokeness, lest one become a bloodied chicken.

Meanwhile, the American frogs would no longer be subject to slow boil. Rather, we make the pot too hot right now-and they jump out. Two years of raptor guided craziness and collateral destruction can be endured and repaired. Ten years of stupid mean chickens in charge with raptors sulking in their nests cannot be.

Fred

Leith,

"She has been trash-talked and lied about since she ran for congress."

Just what did a Boston University graduate expect after seeing what was done to politicians during her entire life experience?

TV

Optimax:
If there was "intelligence". I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was withheld from Trump.
The "intelligence" (talk about an oxymoron) agencies have been sabotaging him since before his election.
As for the cops, the DC Metro police work for a raging Trump-hater and the Capitol Police, who knows?
My niece worked in the Capital for several years and when I asked her about the Capitol Police, she laughed:
"They can barely operate the metal detectors."

akaPatience

Talking heads have become so full of themselves it's no wonder the public has such little faith in the MSM. Listening to TV news this past week or so, I've been surprised to discover that metaphors have become cause for criminal indictment. I didn't realize this until recently. Terms such as "fight", "march" "battle", "combat" etc. are now not only hyperactively taken literally, they've become justification for impeachment, felony indictment, job termination, disbarment, etc. -- *BUT* only when uttered by conservatives. Apparently leftists can say and do whatever they like, as they get a free pass that absolves them of ANY accountability. "Whataboutism" is their favorite go-to reply when confronted with the truth of their hypocrisy. Ask any leftist about abuse of power, Biden's years of graft and do-nothingness, Democrats' cheerleading of and excuses for looting, burning, and violence, and they quiver with indignation that you dared to hold up a mirror to the double standard of their misplaced tolerance and destructive behavior.

optimax

TV

You could be right. I have mentioned before that Trump crowds were always well behaved until sent to the capitol building. The riot was unexpected but every crowd is a potential mob.I've seen agitators first hand when riots closed down Ohio University after Kent State during my freshman year. A young activist/Marxist came to my dorm room and tried to recruit me to help start a riot. I told him he was crazy. I saw totally apolitical students participate in the rioting, afterwards saying "it was just like playing cops and robbers." It's fun to be swept into the madness of a mob, I guess, and easy to inflame.

The crowd came closer to hanging Pence than AOC. He never mentioned that but she will play up her fear of the mob as far as she can ride it politically. It justifies her authoritarian nature.

optimax

I just found this video which shows possible antifa at the front of the mob breaking down the doors to the Capitol. They dress like antifa and act like antifa, breaking windows and then running away. There were rumors before the protest that antifa would infiltrate. This needs to be investigated.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/MPEgGxuTlx8O/

Leith

AK – Yes, she may well be a dolt. As far as her being from the Bronx, isn’t that where President Trump also came from, or right next to it?

Deap – Fanboy? Smell? C’mon Deap you must have better taunts than that.

Eric – I’ve never called any Trump voter a rube, or a hillbilly, or uneducated, or deporable, or smelly. But because I do not support Trump I’ve been called a ‘commie pinko’; apparently it does not matter that I left some blood and skin on Charlie Ridge 53 years ago. I’ve been called an elitist, yet unlike Trump I went to public schools - and in my forties I finally got a sheepskin through a community college and later a state college, unlike Trump who went to an Ivy League U. I’ve been called a libtard but I’m a former moderate Republican and actually fairly conservative in the older meaning of the term. And finally I was told only cucks voted for Biden, yet all my children have my eyes, my hair coloring, and my handsome jug ears.

Fred – Good point. But she was still right to be scared.

Deap

On a scale of 1-10 who got trashed more: Sarah Palin or Sandy Cortez.

Easy answer, Sarah Palin. Because Sarah Palin actually had done something significant in her life before she was thrust into the national spotlight. So her destruction by the media was 10,000 times more venal and tragic. Palin had gone to the top of every position in her life: captain of a winning HS basketball team, beauty contest Miss Congeniality, mayor of Wasila, Governor of Alaska, all while working in the Alaska fishing industry and raising a large family.

Cortez on the other hand auditioned with a video tape for her campaign position, after accumulating a non-existent resume since college, was interviewed and selected by a Democrat marketing operation and let her campaign get run by someone who eventually ran afoul of campaign finance laws.

Palin was a pure Alaska gal; Cortez was a fake resume from the Bronx. Both got trashed badly by the national press from day one. One deserved it; one did not.

marhias alexander

AOC and Co.'s call for more authoratarianism shows them to the phoney managed oposition they have always been. Their consent is being manufactured just like the consent of the deplorables was.They were only there to say "look there's still life in the Democrats" when really there isn't.

Diana L Croissant

As far as I am concerned, any response to AOC's statements will simply lead the person who makes that response into "Wonderland."

As far as I am concerned, I would not want to go down that rabbit hole.

Perhaps Republicans in Congress need to begin an investigation into the educational systems that convinced AOC that she was a genius.

turcopolier

Leith

I'll bite. Where is "Charlie Ridge?"

Fred

Leith,

They won't come for you last.

English Outsider

The only significance I can see to the recent outbreak of hysteria in Washington is that it serves to separate the sheep from the goats. Particularly when it comes to the Republican politicians, the hysteria made it a little clearer, if only a little, who among them were going along with Trump in order to get the pull of his coat tails, and who because they truly share his aims.

Precious few of the latter, I'd guess, and that's as it should be. The Trump movement is above all anti-swamp and the swamp dwellers ought not to be in it.

The essential elements of Trump 2016 are still there. Bring industry back home. Also the troops. Ensure an adequate defence. Drain the swamp. Streets ahead of any dissident movement here in Europe and reason enough to look to Trump, rather than to any of our European politicians, for a start to the regeneration of the West.

Odd that, that I, a committed English patriot and thoroughly immersed in European culture, should be looking so far from home, and at a culture I could never hope to fully understand, for a way forward. But so it is and recent events do not change that. Why should they?

The personality side of Trump - how he comes across as an individual - is perhaps easier for me than for many Americans. Some things about Trump the man I genuinely like. Quite a few things, when I think about it. Other things set my teeth on edge. But when you've had your fill of English and European politicians, the Verhofstadts and the Merkels and the Johnsons, there's nothing much Trump can do to put you off that can equal the stomach churning revulsion our own European politicians can inspire when you get to look at them closely.

And I don't see that overwrought hysteria in Washington as any sort of "Parnell moment". There are times when a personal scandal robs a politician of mass appeal and he can then perform no useful function. This is not one of them. The blame they seek to hang on him is so obviously fake.

So business as before in the Trump stakes? Not quite. I am still unable to reconcile what's been and is being done in the Middle East with that 2016 programme.

Much of the destabilisation and mayhem there is not primarily due to the US. The British and the French, even the Germans, have as much or more blood on their hands. But the overwhelming military power of the United States still makes them the decisive force.

So setting aside the foolish speeches, what was Trump up to in the ME? Was he dragged along by the neocons? Was he so insecure in his Presidency that he had little option but to go along? They say his military went behind his back sometimes but there's a limit to that sort of excuse. Was he playing to that essential element in his support, the two flag deplorables? Or to his donors?

For me, that represents the major failure of the Trump administration. All else, all other failures or partial failures, can be attributed to the difficulty a dissident politician will inevitably have when attempting, almost solo it seems, to get a dissident programme through in the face of determined resistance from the forces of the status quo. But the failure in the Middle East, a failure that has cost and will cost so much death and destruction - is there a reason or excuse for that?

Leith

Heck Colonel, I thought every province in Nam had a terrain feature called Charlie Ridge. Probably not in the Delta though. And unofficially named of course, by the troops.

The one I'm talking about was in Quang Nam in I Corps. It ran west from the old French Hill Station at Ba Na, which I am told is now a major Disneyland type tourist attraction. It was about 15 to 20 Clicks long as I recollect. Then it petered out and started up again out to the Laos border.

Leith

Fred - Your last comment went way over my head. Maybe I am a libtard.

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