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08 January 2021

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Andrei Martyanov

when the guy couldn't even staff his cabinet with anyone who wasn't acceptable to the Congressional Uniparty

National Security Adviser DOES NOT need Congressional approval. It took Trump four years to pardon the only person, considering Flynn's background, who could provide real support for any sensible initiative against "swamp", establishment, bureaucracy, what have you. Once Trump appointed Bolton--that was it. One hot air balloon recognized another from a mile ahead. Trump's program he ran on in 2016 was written FOR him, not by him. As I pointed out few years ago--look at his family photo and interior--a tawdry, tasteless attempt and gilded aristocracy.

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/fdf3e06073697cd1b69a472e281bfe6a

He could never distinguish between statesmanship and casino-level entertainment.

Andrei Martyanov

@Fred.
The follow on actons of google and others to refuse service to Parler and other competing networks is tortious interference in their business operations.

Then they better find better "supplier"--this is how it works in serious business which actually produces something--I know, I worked in aerospace for years. Companies secure several sources for their parts and materials. Like Irkut with MC-21. Those who cannot--sorry, free enterprise and competition. Let them die. Right? Ask yourself a question in the world of free will: who is more culpable, the known rapist and murderer, or a man who asks such a rapist and murderer to guard his family while he is gone for a couple weeks. You see how simple it is? People have to answer for their actions (or inaction) and bear responsibility for the consequences. If not, then try to get elected to US Congress. But real life doesn't work like this.

Alves

Section 230 does not protect the tech companies from antitrust laws in the USA, despite their attempts to get that interpretation of the law through the courts.

At least thus far and going by US DoJ documents.

Who knows what would happen if a case was judged under the current cloud.

Europe has enough weight to do something about it, but the will to do it will not be there for obvious reasons (controlling the narrative is important for people that are in power).

Either way, Trump _talked_ a lot about this issue, but real action came too little, too late. It is just one of the many examples of difference between discourse and action.

Now the way to go is to try to avoid the restrictions that will be continuously implemented, but the lock that Apple and Google have in which apps can be used, never mind the restricted ways of monetizing the alternative platforms, assures that almost everybody will have no alternative, as few are tech savvy enough to know how to even know that there ways to get to those alternatives.

turcopolier

TonyL

What you have admitted in this comment is that you hate Trump because of his repeated and successful implementation of a counter-revolution against marxism.

Fred

TonyL,

You must not have kept up with the bakery case. Though it was successfully hounded into bankruptcy the case was won at the Supreme Court that said yes, you can adhere to your religous beliefs. TOS is being used just like that. Enjoy the feeling, they'll not come for you because you're a Good German American.

Fred

Andrei,

Is that the way it works in the Russian Federation? "People have to answer for their actions (or inaction) and bear responsibility for the consequences."

Yes, Trump, who I am reliably informed is literally Hitler and was put into office due to Russia collusion, said things that provoked the 'riot'. The worst and most provocative being:

"Together we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people.”” as quoted by law professor Ann Althouse. I'm also reliably informed that this was the most free and fair election in national history, with nary a Russian to be found colluding, and disagreement with the results is sedition.

"If not, then try to get elected to US Congress. "
Been there, done that; which is why I'm no longer a member of the Democratic party.

akaPatience

SO, Parler has filed suit against Amazon Web Services. It'll be interesting to see how the court in Seattle handles the case (I'm not getting my hopes up). Our ineffectual US Congress doesn't seem to be motivated so far in addressing what's been happening, much less dealing with the apparent collusion of Big Tech companies to eliminate a competitor. The pols are likely cowering amid the MSM drumbeat that seems to be exaggerating the Capitol riot event (e.g., reporting "FIVE PEOPLE DIED" without mentioning that 3 were from natural causes, one was an unarmed woman shot and killed by Capitol police, and - not intending to make light of his death - one was a Capitol police officer who may have been hit with a fire extinguisher which may have caused him to collapse from a stroke later, back in his office.

Meanwhile, FB and Twitter stock prices are falling. How long the trend will last and whether or not the conservative purge is much of a factor is uncertain. Time will tell. One would think there are at least some conservative stock holders if not directors on their boards who find the arbitrary and biased application of Terms of Service bad for business.

Igor


Telegram is extremely popular in Russia but not based there. A personal messenger with Facebook/Twitter-like capabilities. The original developers were from Russia. Also successfully resisted blocking by the Russian government for a couple of years and won. End-to-end encryption, security, etc is top notch. A lot of people migrated there from Twitter and Facebook.

TonyL

Fred,

"You must not have kept up with the bakery case. Though it was successfully hounded into bankruptcy the case was won at the Supreme Court that said yes, you can adhere to your religous beliefs. TOS is being used just like that. Enjoy the feeling, they'll not come for you because you're a Good German American."

I think we probably agreed to each other here. I sympathized with the baker. He has right to refuse service to anybody, for any reason (religion or whatever) . People can just buy the cakes from someone else. Also, people who like his stand can help him get out of brankcrupcy by supporting his business, too.

To the peole who were hounding him and put him out of business, I would say: Get a grip, go somewhere else to buy your cakes. Be tolerant of others who disagree with you.

TonyL

Colonel,

"What you have admitted in this comment is that you hate Trump because of his repeated and successful implementation of a counter-revolution against marxism."

Sorry sir, you got it wrong. I could not care less for Marxism.

In my oppinion, Trump is only interested in himself and his money. He has no ideology and does not care about the wellbeing of the country.

turcopolier

TonyL

"Trump is only interested in himself and his money. He has no ideology and does not care about the wellbeing of the country." You have no proof of that at all. This is mindless TDS. I would be much happier with you if here was some rational thought behind your opinion.

Alves

Telegram is not really that secure for the average user (the ones that do not use the more advanced security options), as the hacking to obtain messages from prosecutors, politicians and judges here in Brazil in 2019 proved.

TonyL

Colonel,

"You have no proof of that at all". Sir, guilty as charged.

It's just my opinion that was formed 4 years ago after I read all I can about the life of Donal Trump, the person. About his business dealings, and how he behave as a person, and how he became a real estate "billionaire". And that perception about the man has matched up with the the actions he took, as President.

If I may, I believe I understand the reason you supported Trump as President. And I respected that. But I also believe you detested Trump as a person.

It's just harder for a lot of us in the country to step back and look at the big picture in order to judge the guy solely from his policies. Especially when he seems to relish in rhetorics that cause deeper division in this country.

turcopolier

TonyL

Childish emotionalism.

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