"We come in peace." Really?

"Overwhelmingly, everyone The Debrief spoke with said the most striking feature of the recently released UAPTF intelligence position report was the inclusion of new and “extremely clear” photograph of an unidentifiable triangular aircraft.

The photograph, which is said to have also been taken from inside the cockpit of a military fighter jet, depicted an apparent aerospace vehicle described as a large equilateral triangle with rounded or “blunted” edges and large, perfectly spherical white “lights” in each corner. Officials who had seen it said the image was captured in 2019 by an F/A-18 fighter pilot. 

Two officials that received the report said the photo was taken after the triangular craft emerged from the ocean and began to ascend straight upwards at a 90-degree angle. It was indicated that this event occurred off the eastern coast of the United States. Several other sources confirmed the photo’s existence; however, they declined to provide any further specifics of the incident. 

Regarding the overall theme of the recent report, officials who read it say the report primarily focused on “Unidentified Submersible Phenomena,” or unidentified “transmedium” vehicles capable of operating both under water and in the air. "  the debrief

https://youtu.be/gEhgnkQoPqQ

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I am surprised by people who are so intellectually limited that they insist that UFO/UAP cannot be real.  Dana Perino, the cute blonde midget who is a talking head on Foxnews says that she not only "thinks" there is nothing but us in the great, wide universe but that she believes the whole US Space Program has been a waste of time and money from its very inception in the era of the godlike JFK except as it was a useful tool with which to tweak the Soviets.  

Now, the generals and admirals, a notably unimaginative lot, are slowly coming to a consensus with regard to UFO/UAP and that consensus points to a conclusion of the reality of these things, whatever they are.  pl 

https://www.thedebrief.org/fast-movers-and-transmedium-vehicles-the-pentagons-uap-task-force/

Comments

[Polish Janitor]

I am more on the skeptic side than the believer side because of my general attitude and dim view about human nature. But I have to say that the only thing that makes me believe in these unknown sightings is that they are coming from the military brass and I don't take the military as 'BS'ers.

But let me ask you this Colonel: Have you yourself ever encountered unknown aerial phenomena such as these? I really would love to hear it if the answer is yes.

[turcopolier]

Polish Janitor

No, but I don't have to see things to believe they are real. That was always a big advantage for me as an intelligence officer.

[turcopolier]

Polish janitor

OTOH some people in my father's family see and hear things that are not easily explained. My sister is like that. So am I to some extent. Many years ago I was out walking one of my terriers late at night and late in Autumn. I was in front of my house. It was cold. The dog looked up the block to the left of us and I saw a brunette woman approaching on the sidewalk. She went out into the street to get past us and as she came near I saw that she was barefooted and wearing a white lace negligee. I said "Good evening." She nodded and kept walking. I asked if she were not cold. She said she was not. The dog was tracking her with his head turning as she passed. I said that she seemed odd. She responded "Aren't we all?" and kept walking. I turned my head to the left just after she passed and when I turned back to watch her go, she was gone, gone from the street and under a streetlight. The dog turned and wanted to go back in the house. Perhaps you can explain that incident. I cannot.

[Harlan Easley]

I believe there is something to the Roswell Incident. An Act of God may have brought the craft down. There was a severe thunderstorm reported in the area around time of the alleged crash.

Major Marcel was head of intelligence for 509th Bomb group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field. The unit that housed the Enola Gay and was responsible for bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII.

He describes the material as lightweight. You could crumple it up and it would expand naturally to its former form after releasing it.

Also, you could not burn the material and a sledgehammer would not dent the material.

A balloon would obviously burn and a sledgehammer would destroy or tear it. And it would not reform to its original shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXtZnbdDsvk

[Eric Newhill]

Sir,
I've mentioned before that a number of years ago I began to spontaneously have what are called "out of body experiences" (OBEs). Scared the hell out of me at first. Eventually, I learned to be ok with them and even induce them at will. I seem to have gradually lost that ability; for the most part. At some point back then I was seeking to determine if the experiences were "real" or just some kind of strange dreams. I ultimately concluded they were largely real because I could obtain verifiable detailed information about events at locations beyond my physical body of which I had no prior knowledge. Sometimes I even obtained detailed information about future events.

On one such purposeful test in the early days of my experimentation, I willed my "astral"self to travel to my neighbor's house and enter it. I knew my neighbor well enough to say "hello", but had never been in her house. This was at night. After midnight if I recall correctly. I found my neighbor in bed with her boyfriend(she wasn't married). The boyfriend was sound asleep, but my neighbor was partly awake. I could just tell. I was "standing" by her bed taking in the sights and starting to feel a little guilty about being creepy that way, when she sat up in bed and looked right at me. She seemed to see me, which surprised me. I went "flying" out of her house.

Maybe a week later I encountered her as we were both taking out the trash for pick-up. I asked how she was doing. She said she was well - then, without any prompting from me, she told me that she thought her house might be haunted. I asked why. She said that about a week ago she had seen a ghost in her bedroom. It had frightened her and she was trying to deal with experience. She described what the ghost looked like and, yes, it looked just like me. Oddly she didn't make the connection. I think because she believed ghosts could be real, but couldn't imagine that living people can project as ghosts. I swear that is a 100% true story. Maybe the woman you encountered was someone projecting like that. I understand that many do in their sleep and either don't recall or consider it to be a vivid dream, but just a dream.

Because I have had a range of paranormal experiences, I have studied all of the evidence, etc as a hobby. I always kind of dismissed UFOs as nuts and bolts phenomena. I'm starting to open to the idea that they are. I'm really not sure what to think about them, but they should not be summarily dismissed as "impossible". Indeed that is closed minded and ignores the evidence. Science follows the evidence. It doesn't seek to defend a paradigm at all costs.

[Diana L Croissant]

I believe many things that I have never seen. A person has to as he or she goes through school. We have to take the words of our teachers and professors and use their documentation as proof.

On another note, my two sisters and my brother and I all knew that we couldn't get away with much that my mother didn't approve of. She always somehow KNEW what we were doing that she didn't approve of, and our friends all assured us they hadn't told.

My mother had "died" in some sense twice: the first after going into eclampsia while giving birth to my brother, her first child. And the second time after a gall bladder operation. Both times she came home to tell us of who came to talk with her and tell her she was still needed and had to go back (to life).

Those people who had talked with her were obviously not from outer space but from wherever we go when we die.

Therefore, I have grown up believing that it is perfectly o.k. to believe in things that I personally have not seen myself. Most people who report these sorts of events have to know they will be accused of lying or hallucinating. So, their belief has to be firm if they are willing to be characterized as mentally ill or something else.

If you search the Internet, you have to realize that you'll be reading things that may or may not be "documented" as well as they should be to be believed. I taught research writing and know the rules of documentation.

However I find it fun to search the Internet. I learned that someone believes these things about my blood type O-: I am less likely to catch this virus, but more exciting for me is that some feel I will be more likely than others to be abducted by outer space aliens.

In the boring pandemic lockdown, I find that to be an exciting possibility.

Sometimes you don't have to see to believe. Instead, sometimes you have to believe to "see".

[Artemesia]

Does anyone remember details of a meeting on Smith Island, across from Jekyll Island, about a year or 18 months ago. My hazy recollection is only that neoconservatives dominated the gathering -- the brief report I read quoted Robert Kagan. He said something like, "We have seen some extremely interesting new defense technologies here." -- words to that effect.

Is the Triangle phenomenon a new weapons system being developed by US, or US allies?

I never thought much about whether or not 4th dimension events and aliens are real. Kurt Vonnegut made Tralfamadore real to me -- when I read such literature I become caught up in it: started when I read Enid Blyton in the library above the firehouse in a small village in Ohio.
We have not yet fully explored the capabilities of the human brain that, in my case at least, can create reality from the written word, much less all that an infinite universe has yet to unfold.

[The Twisted Genius]

That's one of the best articles I've read on this stuff in a long while. The idea that aliens may be more interested in creatures living in our seas rather than on land is intriguing. Who could they be contacting? Whales? Porpoises? Octopuses? Maybe something else we haven't encountered yet. On land, aliens may be more interested in the wider forests organisms encompassing the trees, mushrooms and other fungi all connected and communicating through mycelia.

https://www.ted.com/talks/suzanne_simard_how_trees_talk_to_each_other/transcript?language=en

We are terribly self-centered to assume that we are the only organisms on this planet that aliens would be interested in. Whales may have been reaching out to the stars long before we started to do so. Perhaps even the forests have been doing so even before the whales.

[james]

thanks pat! fascinating.... something that can cross the barrier between water and air at really high speeds - wow! of course there is life in other universes.. we are foolish to think planet earth is the only planet inhabited by people and intelligence... the universe is big... we live in one small part of it.. at some point if we keep on screwing up here on planet earth we are going to find out more from these foreign travellers.. that is my take.. hopefully we can figure out how to get along and not kill the planet in the process...

[Mary Hallock]

Colonel, I had an uncle who was a transport pilot during WWII and stayed in the air force until retiring. He claimed to have seen an aircraft flying along side his plane that took off doing things that none of our technology could do. He said he couldn't explain it but I know what he meant. He's dead these many years so I can't ask him about it now.
BTW we had a night time visitor in our house until my priest uncle gave us a house blessing. Our 90 pound golden retriever growled but wouldn't go downstairs. The world is full of strange things and I'm not arrogant enough to say I understand everything.

[Diana L Croissant]

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

[turcopolier]

All

I came back in the house and described this to my wife. She has a contemporary memory of the event.

[akaPatience]

When I was single one of my boyfriends was an aerospace engineer. He liked to take rides in hilly rural areas to test the maneuverability of his newly-purchased Land Rover, which in those days was only available in a relatively primitive model, unlike the luxury SUVs of today. Early one evening while riding around, we saw distant lights moving slowly and randomly, hovering above a farmer's field. As we got closer, we could see it was some sort of truck-sized vehicle with revolving lights all around its lower edge, with about 10 feet or so of space between its bottom and the ground. I froze in fear as my boyfriend said it had to be a UFO, because he'd never seen anything like it before.

More recently, I had a frightening paranormal experience. It happened on a Thanksgiving night: we'd hosted the feast during which a brother and his family regaled us with stories of hauntings. He'd recently moved to a pre-Civil War farmhouse on 40 acres. It had been sold to him by a retired GE engineer and his wife who'd only lived there a few years. When asked why they were selling, the wife told him it "was time to go". Anyway, it wasn't long before my brother and his wife started hearing strange noises - footsteps, knocks, rustling, soft music, etc. Their daughter said the phenomenon seemed to follow them around because it would happen in her house when they visited. I thought to myself that this was some sort of flaky mass hysteria and dismissed it in my mind. However, that evening as I sat alone in the kitchen after cleaning up, with my 2 cats huddled close to me, I heard music that I thought was coming from the TV behind me, tuned in to the Classic Arts videos I often watched late at night. Fearing it could disturb my husband, I turned to switch it off but it wasn't even on. Then I suddenly heard sharp footsteps coming from above that sounded like a woman walking in high heels on a hardwood floor. Both cats quickly turned their heads upwards at the same time as we listened to the footsteps for a couple of minutes. However, no one was in the room above, which was thickly carpeted...

I'm an annoying skeptic by nature but have to admit something very unusual, frightening and inexplicable occurred both times.

[A. Pols]

It seems that the periodic table is reality throughout the universe and the chemistry of life processes is likely to be fairly similar everywhere. It also seems planetary systems exist in profusion as well and I would also infer that Earth similar planets are likely to exist by the millions in the vastness of the universe. Therefore the evolution of intelligent life forms seems likely beyond our planet. Now travel on an interstellar basis may be difficult due to time and distance and communications as well. After all, hundreds of light years is quite a hike.
I and a number of companions saw a phenomenon one night in 1974. Some friends and I were camped at a mountain shelter in New Hampshire called "Crag Camp" near treeline in the Presidential Range. There were perhaps a total of 15 people in the hut and it was late October and quite cold with snow on the mountain and a very clear sky. My then girlfriend and I along with another couple had retired for the night to our sleeping bags when we heard excited conversation from out side. Crag Camp had an outside deck with a fine view over King Ravine. The people outside were exclaiming over something they were seeing in the sky, so we got up and threw on boots&coats so we could see what all the fuss was about. There was a diamond shaped pattern of 4 lights, totally stable in size and shape, that alternately hovered and then moved in extremely rapid jumps both laterally and vertically. This went on for some time until whatever it was moved at unnatural speeds and disappeared. There were probably a dozen people who all saw the same thing from the same vantage point. What it was I cannot say, but it was quite real. The pattern of lights had an angular perceived size equal perhaps to a full moon. There were no apparent weird refractive phenomena to be seen that we thought could explain what we saw.

[confusedponderer]

I cannot say I have seen or experienced a thing like the odd woman in the cold when you went out with your dog.

What I know is just something more easily explained. When I did my military service I had it often that I felt 'there is something', looked again and then found it. I explained it to me by concluding I must have a decent peripheral vision.

Alas, now, with a little age I'm slightly shortsighted (too much reading and computer) so it will be less so, but I have it corrected with glasses. It was disturbing to suddenly see things sharp again which I previously only knew to be there.

That said, I still recall fondly an experience during a night "search and find" exercise when I had myself properly greened up, standing in front of a hedge. A comrade was some 2 meters away, looking at me, not seeing me. "Boo!" I said. And I came in peace.

[SAC Brat]

Legendary British test pilot Eric Brown wrote of chasing an object by jet that had multiple witnesses over England in February 1956. It was real to him and to the radar operators at the airbase he flew from. He then mentions three months later he had to shoot down a real balloon that had broken loose and the challenge to line up his shots so they didn't land in a populated area.

[turcopolier]

confusedponderer

Further "proof" of my strangeness is the experience I had at the von Furstenberg palace on the north shore of Lake Constance. SWMBO and I were on vacation and driving around and decided from some tourist guide to visit the schloss which was open for tours. This has been in the family since the Renaissance. I started to feel uncomfortable as soon as we entered the building. We joined a tour. The more we walked around the worse I felt. We finally arrived at the chapel which is very old. By that time I was filled with dread. The von Furstenbergs are a Catholic family with the exception of Diane who married in. In the last generation there was a Cardinal von Furstenberg who was Grand Master of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre of which I am a member. The tour guide focused on me and asked what I was feeling. I asked who was under the floor. He named several. The names meant nothing to me. I told him I felt ill and would leave. He nodded and said that some people were affected by the chapel that way. I went out in the parking and threw up. I was glad to drive away.

[d74]

They came to see how we commit suicide by fouling the Earth. They have been coming regularly for millennia. Even the old medieval chronicles talk about them.

They see that progress is still stalled because we are unable to get out of our hole. We are still our worst enemy.
So they leave without saying a word, just nodding their heads.

[siberiancat]

With all respect, the photo looks like a CGI, and the video is very blurry

[turcopolier]

siberiancat

The article states that the triangle picture is an artists rendition of a photograph he had been shown. Aircraft sensor films like that are always blurry. Stanford, eh? Typical smart-alecky attitude.

[Polish Janitor]

Fascinating experiences Colonel, thank you for sharing them. The barefoot woman you described, walking around in cold whether is not something ordinary at all. Quite unusual indeed. It is interesting that you actually interacted with her, I am thinking if I were in that situation I probably would have remained frozen and speechless!

My father is a retired F-4 phantom pilot and used to fly in the late 80s. He and his GIB had one sighting that the jet's radar would not pick up but it was visually observable. The object was gray and did not have a specific shape and seemed static and when they started to approach it my dad said it vanished immediately.

Please keep us updated if you ever came across news pieces like this colonel, a little distraction from the political news cycle is great as always!

[Mark Logan]

I would guess that if we had interstellar capability and encountered a world with life at the early stages of industrialization the last thing we would do is make contact with it. It's a safe bet only a miniscule percentage of water-planets encountered would have it at the point in time we arrive. A thing observed is a thing changed.

We would tread on the knife edge of as much study as possible without revealing ourselves.

[james]

@ pat @ eric newhill and others...

thanks for sharing these stories... makes me feel a bit more sane..

[Mike]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

[Eric Newhill]

TTG,
Maybe they have seen Col. Lang's grilled sword fish posts and decided they needed to try some of that.

Maybe they are miners or gatherers of organic materials necessary to their lives and depleted on their planet, but abundant and ignored here.