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23 November 2020

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Artemesia

Perhaps this comment unmasks me: the Venezuela connection did not and does not inspire outrage in me. I thought Venezuela under Chavez tried to do decent things for a vast number of extremely poor people.

As well, What role did USA persons or institutions play is acquiring the use of the same software?

Ironically, a link to this article by rabble-rouser journalist Whitney Webb appears in the right hand column next to PCR's essay:
http://thealtworld.com/whitney_webb/continuing-and-outrageous-u-s-meddling-in-the-sovereignty-of-venezuela
Continuing and Outrageous U.S. Meddling In The Sovereignty Of Venezuela

Did Chavez use cheater software to stay in power? Possibly. O the outrage. Then he somewhat mysteriously died of cancer.
iirc Venezuela under Chavez endorsed a still-born plan by which Iran would resolve its nuclear crisis; Hillary Clinton killed that baby before it took a breath.
-- One US problem with Venezuela involves its facility for processing otherwise difficult-to-process oil.
-- Venezuela has attempted to purchase Iranian oil, but USA intercepted the shipment and sold it, with revenues into US coffers.

So I perceive circles within circles within circles. Inside one or more of them might lurk a US businessman or politician, maybe even a Republican.


turcopolier

Artemesia

"I thought Venezuela under Chavez tried to do decent things for a vast number of extremely poor people." So did Lenin, Mao and a variety of other tyrants.

Deap

Interesting cable - and alluding to a Dutch shadow organization as part of the cover-up.

Allegedly it was a Dutch hacker that made Germany prohibit all future "electronic voting" in their federal elections. That would be an interesting history to track - why and when did so many European countries ban "electronic voting". And what were the affiliations of this "Dutch hacker".

In an earlier tracking of Dominion and the DNC honcho lobbying law firm Brownstein, Farber, Hyatt and Shreck, I did come across much earlier criticisms of Dominion voting from Democrat election watchdogs. Bush was President in 2006 when this cable was written.

What did "they" know, and when did they know it. Solve for "they" first.

The Twisted Genius

Smartmatic is a competitor of Dominion in the election machine industry. They do not share hardware or software with Dominion or any other competitors. Smartmatic was only used in Los Angeles County in 2020. Whatever baggage Smartmatic may have, it has nothing to with the results of our election. Trump and his elite strike team are spinning this into a web of lies in an effort to baffle us all. The same with the breathless claim of Dominion machines playing games in Philadelphia. Philadelphia did not use Dominion machines. This crooked voting machine theory is a dead end. Trump better stick to beating on the absentee/mail in ballot angle if he wants to make any headway.

Artemesia

Colonel, I don't know enough about Venezuela pre- and post-Chavez to argue persuasively. I remember listening to Chavez being extensively interviewed and remember being impressed.

I must say I have a hard time putting Chavez in the same category as Lenin and Mao. To the best of my knowledge, Chavez did not embark on campaigns to kill masses of Venezuelan people.

Deap

Artemesia, others have also speculated some sort of GOP involvement as well as Democrat benefit in the current electronic voting mess.

Would that GOP connection be anyone in the virulent TDS Lincoln project group or high profile GOP No-Trumpers?

The Bush family links are a temporal common denominator to both Chavez's Venezuela and and the 2020 US election. But of course, coincidence is not causation.

Diana L Croissant

I am sorry. I am a black/white thinker in many ways. I know, however that there are some situations when there is a middle ground.

In regard to socialism and communism, however, there is no middle ground as far as I am concerned. They are flawed and dangerous political systems. Those ideologies are based on categorizing human beings, labeling them and determining the "class" they belong to. Of course the Intelligentsia will have to occasionally give the Useful Idiots some crumbs now and then to fend off their eventual desperation and then their decision to revolt.

eakens

Here's a 14 year old CNN report...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s9PkuiIw2Q&feature=emb_logo

LJ

We have had election security problems since the Sequoia hackable machines during the Bush II 2004 election and on. I always found it puzzling the Democrats did not raise holy hell at the time and never had.

Pinning this probable election fraud Venezuela sounds like a well constructed legend along the lines of the Chinese did it, the Russians did it, dodgy dossiers and yellow cake, etc. Not buying it.

Sadly I personally suspect that elections are now scripted out to make as distractions while the real stories are being played out.

lux

Allegedly it was a Dutch hacker that made Germany prohibit all future "electronic voting" in their federal elections.

Were did you hear that, Deap Feels the CCC was behind matters:

Press release:
https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2009/wahlcomputer-urteil-bverfg

Clubs:
https://www.ccc.de/en/regional

elaine

How do Hammer(HAMR)a super computer & Scorecard software figure into this mess? If you read on the left they're irrelevant, not so if reading on the right. I lack the technological skills to form an opinion.

LondonBob

I think the Trump campaign is right to ignore this. They have more than enough to win on signature matching, ballot harvesting and stuffing. By all means let Sidney Powell pursue this but this is the nott the right path to officially pursue.

Neal Mahoney

Before y'all get too committed to believing the election was stolen by Hugo Chavez from beyond the grave with money from Soros and "communistic nations" via Dominion, you should check out the old Bradblog (https://bradblog.com/?p=13643). He's been screaming about the electronic voting machine scam for 20 years and telling anyone who will listen that election legitimacy requires hand marked paper ballots, counted in public. Instead, of course, congress and local governments have, since the steal of 2000, on a bipartisan basis, with Republicans usually in the lead, encouraged the turn over of all of our elections to equipment owned by spooky companies like Dominion, ES&S, etc. (No worries about hanging chads that way, "get over it!") He did a story 10 years ago about Dominion, Sequoia and Diebold which, in garbled form, seems to form the basis for Sidney Powell's so-far evidence free charges.

A. Pols

I am fairly convinced that certain states doubled down on manufacturing enough votes to tip what earlier appeared to be a Trump win, into a Biden win. And I'm convinced the people behind it were convinced they were doing what had to be done to "save America" and THAT TO THEM IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

I am also fairly convinced for a variety of reasons, mostly having to do with cultural aversions to aborting the sacred ritual of succession, that all those plotters will get away with it and Biden will ascend the throne on Jan. 20.

What happens then?

"Tis true and 'tis a pity and pity 'tis 'tis true"

exiled off mainstreet

It may have been developed by Chavez to counter the CIA efforts against him. Obviously, since, the thing has become available abroad to the highest bidder, and others have established links between the various companies. The only answer in the end is to require no computer intervention in the counting of ballots.

Alves

Dominion voting machines produce a paper ballot, no?

Democrats printing several hundred thousand paper ballots is part of the case being made too? If it is, no GOP official saw any of that? If not, a simple hand recounts of the votes will tell if there was a fraud.

To be quite honest, I am always suspicious of voting machines that do not leave a paper ballot for us to be able to audit the eletronic counting, it is what happens here in Brazil (we have to have a lot of faith in our election officers), but that is not how things are set in the USA afaik and the stuff that I am reading just does not make a good case for fraud. It borders the unbelivable.

Deap

Democrats are scaring the hell out of people now that they are over-playing their hand. Carl Bernstein just let out a whopper that is off the charts - Trump is guily ot negligent homicide of 250,000 souls.

These unwoke voters simplistically thought they were just voting against Trump. So they registered a protest vote, assuming Trump would win nationwide anyway.

Now they see what they actually may have voted for instead, they cheering wildly for Trump to win his election appeals cases. Please they howl, can we have a do-over? Never pays to smoke dope and vote at the same time. Or drink Kool-Aid before you mark your ballot.

The 2020 Election is your brain on drugs. Any questions?

TV

Howling at the moon or..... lost before it started.
The Republicans (the stupid party) obviously didn't foresee, much less prepare for the significant fraud in key swing states.
And BTW the Republican "establishment" has as much loathing for Trump (and the "deplorables") as the Democrat-media party has.
Mail in voting is like putting a fox to watch the hen house.
The judiciary (state and Fed) is as corrupt as the other branches and will continue to render decisions that favor a political agenda, usually Democrat.
Biden probably won - a lot closer without the invalid votes.
As Walrus said:
The uninformed and ill-educated electorate won't know the difference until they start to starve.
People get the government they deserve.

Eric Newhill

TTG,

Seems even Liz Warren believes counting machines flip votes.Also, she thinks that all the voting machine vendors are consolidated. I can see that the consolidation is done under numerous shell companies, "equity firms" and that sort of thing. I imagine the Giuliani, who busted up the NY mafia, knows how to get through the smoke and mirrors.

https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/H.I.G.%20McCarthy,%20&%20Staple%20Street%20letters.pdf

J

GSA notifies Joe Biden that Trump administration is ready to start transition process

https://nypost.com/2020/11/23/gsa-notifies-biden-that-trump-admin-is-ready-to-start-transition-process/

Fred

TTG,

Your information is inaccurate. Lord Malloch Brown admitted to a licensing agreement between the two companies in an interview in 2015. You should do some more research, like who sold what to whom and when:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/smartmatic-lied-lord-mark-malloch-brown-admitted-license-agreement-smartmatic-dominion-2015-interview-video

LJ

@Neal Mahoney: "Screaming?" Pretty much. His coverage of the questionable 2004 election is excellent and well as the highly suspicious death of Mike Connell, the Republican IT guru. He died flying his own airplane just before he was going to testify about his role in the duel server magic trick. And of course the DNC remained stone silent about it.

https://www.bradblog.com/?p=7652

turcopolier

TV et al

Why should we think it will be any different in Georgia?

jerseycityjoan

Deap,

I do have a question. What evidence do you have for what you say? I haven't heard of millions of Biden voters regretting their votes and screaming for Trump to win after all.

The polls favored Biden. Who would vote for Biden as a protest vote while thinking Trump was a sure bet to win?

Seamus Padraig

In my view, Team Trump is wise to put some distance between themselves and Sidney Powell. This whole Venezuela-hacked-the-election sounds a little too ... well, Hillary for my taste. Whatever happened to challenging the mail-in ballots? Has that just been buried now?

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