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28 November 2020

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Fred

They certainly tried to rigged this? Which others did they rig in the past, like in 2018 which gave them the "Russia Collusion" sweep into control of the House? They'll certainly do this again and ensure control of all branches of government. They'll have two years of executive office control to investigate - and manufacture evidence - to get rid of any upstarts that don't toe the line. Not to mention 10-20 million new DACA citizens and open borders inflow of democrats dependent upon government largess. They'll vote for the people who pay them.

English Outsider

There were so many opportunities for fraud it's now difficult to believe some weren't taken. Is it true that the identifying inner envelopes were thrown away in Georgia? If so that makes recounts a waste of time.


Some material that came up via the Saker site -

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/mailvox-analysis-of-powell-filing.html

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/mailvox-second-opinion.html

I think this might be the footnote referred to -


https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf

Couldn't be a worse outcome than the outcome of this election. If Trump looks like getting anywhere then a lot of stores will go up in flames if Antifa et al have any say in the matter. If Trump doesn't then all will know it was an improperly conducted election and many will believe it was rigged.

As in the UK, our masters are rapidly running out of credibility.

A. Pols

The ghost of Juan Peron..

Diana L Croissant

I am also convinced that the political system in our country has broken our once great country. Thanks to our broken public education system (from the influence of the NEA), the socialists have taken over.

I am most saddened by the fact that my grandchildren will not be growing up in the same country in which I grew up. I saw it coming several decades ago. The generation that will soon be running the country will run it into eventual chaos. Soon our immigration system will no longer be an issue. Our emigration system will be overrun by hoards of people fleeing to Canada or Australia or other more sane parts of the world. And I do know the countries I mentioned also have problems. The world itself is in chaos.

J

Sadly I have to agree, the courts and judges have abandoned justice and the rule of law, and have become ball-less and spine-less muffins.

TV

You're right about the judiciary.
It's as corrupt as the rest of government (local, state and Fed)

Deap

To what degree do we have a constitutional right to fair and honest elections? What must a majority of constitutional originalists consider when answering this question.

Is our mandate to have kind of of fair and honest, or 100% fair and honest elections. One illegal vote any where in the process breaches our fundamental contract to be guaranteed 100% fair and honest elections.

One illegal vote has one of two impacts. Either the illegal vote disenfranchises a legal vote. Or, the illegal vote amplifies the power of a legal vote for double benefit. Neither can be tolerated when the mandate is providing 100% fair and honest elections.

How do we remedy this fundamental breach of election integrity? Not every wrong has a remedy.

I contend we start with the 100% fair and honest model as the primary goal, unless a compelling argument can be made that one person one vote is only a guideline, and not a constitutional mandate. And that only kind of fair and honest elections is good enough under our constitutional mandate of governance..

Where does one set the needle on the sliding scale, if one abandons 100% fair and honest elections. 95% honest - 55% honest - 50%+1 honest

Dual sovereignty grants states the right to develop fair and honest election procedures.

Voters in each state have the primary duty to ensure their state meets the fundamental standard of one person, one vote, and 100% fair and honest elections. Not kind of fair and honest, not maybe one person one vote. But fair, honest and 100% one person one vote. State voters must sue their states if this is not guaranteed.

State voters if denied proper remedies within their state courts, shall take these matters to the US Supreme Court because the US constitution is the primary guarantor of 100% fair and honest elections and one person one vote.

Founders provided several buffer zones to remedy unfair or compromised elections:

(1) Electors from each state and not direct national popular vote elections.
(2) Time period between election day and meeting of electors to resolve any corruptions of the voting process.
(3) Providing electors independence to cast their votes according to their own conscience, should they determine the process was not fair or honest.
(4) Providing the specific remedy of the House vote selection should electors not reach the statutory minimum of votes necessary to declare an election winner.

There are no provisions in the entire constitutional system of elections for the following:

(1) No place for the "media" to call an election,
(2) No place for a bogus claim and trappings of an Office of the President Elect,
(3) No place for transitional demands to be made by any candidate prior to the final selection by the Electoral College, or ultimately a House vote if no Electoral College threshold vote is reached.
(4) No place for engaging in psychological warfare to subvert the fundamental election outcome as set out only by the US Constitution.

J

It seems that DOJ has gone back to some of the old ways of Federal Executions, firing squads and electric chairs.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/11/27/2020-25867/manner-of-federal-executions

If the swamp creatures at MSNBC and CNN had their way, us deplorables who support Trump, would be rounded up and murdered.

Deap

...............

"There have only been two instances in the history of U.S. presidential elections where the House has picked the president. The first was during the presidential election of 1800, in which Aaron Burr and Thomas Jefferson fought it out to become the leader of the young nation. When the electoral votes were counted, the two Democratic-Republican candidates came out exactly tied. The final decision of the contested election was then handed over to the House of Representatives, who cast their ballots to officially elect Jefferson as president.

The second time the House chose the president was during the contentious 1824 election. After none of the four presidential candidates received a large enough majority, or over 50 percent of electoral votes, the presidential decision was handed to Congress. It took until Feb. 9, 1825 for the final decision to be made. John Quincy Adams was announced as president, much to the chagrin of Andrew Jackson and his supporters."........................

Petrel

Fred -- Are you aware of DoD raids on 3 - letter server farms in Frankfurt - Barcelona - Toronto and that these servers are now under analysis by the DIA?

Sydney Powell referenced early findings from the raids in her Georgia / Michigan lawsuits and promised expert witnesses to follow in the Arizona Legislator meeting next week. Meanwhile, the Legislator meeting in PA has generated bills in both PA houses to withdraw 20 electors from Biden and give them to Trump.

Condolences to the families of 3 - letter contractors and DoD patriots who died in the Frankfurt confrontation. Congratulations to General Flynn retuned to the fight of suppressing enemies foreign & domestic.

JerseyJeffersonian

Well, here is one account of the governing elite to be under Old White Joe:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/joe-biden-return-cfr

N.B.: Below the post proper are a couple of helpful charts. Click on them to expand for readability.

Ah, yes, warmongers, globalists, dyed-in-the-wool zionists, rubbing their hands in glee. War with Iran is almost a lead pipe cinch under this cabal; got an early start with the assassination of the leading nuclear scientist in Iran. Don't have the sense that such a war will run too smoothly, though. At minimum, the sane part of the world will without quibbles know that the Evil Empire (hah, what an ironic turn, that) needs to be taken down a peg. Sadly good Americans will be made to suffer for the viciousness of our nation's masters. The price of Liberty, as old Thomas J. observed, is indeed eternal vigilance; lose focus and lose all.

Globalists will be doing a celebratory cakewalk, slamming 3rd world clients into the country, advancing their next agenda item by flooding us with their clients so they can turn more states permanently blue and acquire the votes to kill the Republic by eliminating the Electoral College through Constitutional (what a laugh for them) amendment. Then tee up the Constitution for some "long overdue modifications".

Lay plans for the time immediately after some disasterous war, crashed economy, etc. for separation. If the Republic is lost, trying to save the people whom it protected and allowed to flourish from destruction is the needful course. Save what you can from the ruins, but know that Western Civilization as it was will be no more.

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." There, I said it, the infamous 14 Words. But Western Civilization exists only because of that people, and their values, so this is bedrock. Our Republic would never have existed were it not for that; no other culture has ever truly thought the thoughts that led to its formulation. For all of our human failings - and they are legion - something great was wrought, and it should not perish from the earth.

Deap

Cyber-security expert testifies under oath for the Powell legal team in Georgia - ample evidence exists that election fraud took place:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/the_smartest_man_in_the_room_has_joined_sidney_powells_team.html

Deap

What did Stacy Abrams know and when did she know it, regarding Georgia election fraud?

j. casey

How long will they let Biden stay in office before Harris and HRC take over?

NancyK

I do not understand why you think the Democrats rigged the election. Did they rig it so Republicans would win 11 new house seats? Did they rig it so Republicans would win in NC, Texas and Florida? Are all of the courts in collusion with the Democrats? There is no real evidence except for Giuliani and his wacky ideas. Let it go the the Supreme Court as Trump wants I don't think they will even touch it. Trump lost, Biden won. It is as simple as that. It is definitely
no fun to lose, but Trump will survive and probably make a lot of money in the process.

turcopolier

NancyK

They rigged the presidential election. I don't care about Trump. He is relatively unimportant. It is the loss of control to you leftists that I fear and will resist.

turcopolier

Nancy K

Your colleague Laura Wilson asks why the Dems did not rig all the elections up and down the ticket. Simple. This is an immense task. They simply did not have the resources or the time time to do all that.

BillWade

Petrel, "Condolences to the families of 3 - letter contractors and DoD patriots who died in the Frankfurt confrontation. Congratulations to General Flynn retuned to the fight of suppressing enemies foreign & domestic."

Could you please provide a source for this information? Thanks.

NancyK, The 2020 election is not yet over. I remember when the 2016 election was over, there were no sour grapes from the Dems as I understand you have said. But what were those tens of thousands of women wearing some sort of genital hat the day after, what was that about? Why were they cheering a washed up entertainer named "Madonna" who was screaming and threatening to burn down the White House. Another women, a not so funny one, carrying around a severed Trump look alike head, did you laugh or just wish it were true? I distinctly remember antifa destroying cars, business windows, etc, just some kids having fun, no?

I learned of a Japanese Admiral who said, "I'm afraid we're about to waken a sleeping giant." I have to wonder if Biden isn't thinking the same thing.

It's a beautiful day in the Free State of Florida.


akaPatience

I share the colonel's suspicion that our judiciary will ultimately fall short when it comes to providing a just remedy for the most widespread reports and evidence of election fraud I've witnessed in my lifetime. The dismissive, jocular attitude that prevailed when Cook County, IL corruption was thought to have delivered victory to Kennedy over Nixon in 1960 is a harbinger, and seems small-scale compared to what's happened 60 years later. I hope the GA runoffs will avoid the corruption that seems to have taken place there earlier this month. A win by the Democrats will be catastrophic.

Like the very disappointing AG Barr - he who's given a lot of lip service and little else to the issue of government corruption/malfeasance we've witnessed these past few years - negligence, cowardice, resignation, laziness, complicity or a combination seem to guide those who we've unfortunately had to entrust to establish justice and to hold criminal wrongdoing accountable. Barr talks the talk but if he lets this election go by without making an effort to get to the truth, he has failed miserably.

The political, corporate and media establishment seem to resent that Deplorables refuse to be kept in the dark, refuse to acquiesce to their agendas. The censorious CEOs of social and mainstream media are trying to keep a tight lid on awareness of these matters of corruption. Could their efforts backfire and result in a boiling over?

I can't help but suspect that Obama and his minions are behind much of the ballot box stuffing/miscounting type of voter fraud that's allegedly occurred. The former community organizer could've easily waged a secret campaign to enlist accomplices all over the US who were willing to commit fraud to get Biden, and thus Obama's favorite, Harris, elected. Is it mere coincidence that the narcissistic former POTUS just happens to be promoting yet another biography at this moment in time? I don't think so.

Suresh

If they can get rid of Trump - they will remove the Reps main leader. If the Dems can get control of the Senate or if some Rinos roll over expect a post presidential impeachment for obstruction of justice, with the aim being to stop Trump from holding office again. If they are crazy they might try the Epstein route although I doubt that there will be an US after that

Antoinetta III

Nancy K:

These people are seriously infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome. They were maniacally focused on their sole obsession--dethroning the Orange King. I rather doubt that they thought about the down-ballot races much at all.

Antoinetta III

NancyK

If the Dems rigged the election they did a very poor job of it. Except for Trump, which the majority of Americans did not approve of, they lost in the House, Senate and on the state level. If that is rigging I imagine Republicans wish the Democrats rigged more.
Where exactly is the proof that this election was rigged. Just because you say it does not make it true. Even Republican election officials are saying that the election was not rigged.

Cortes

Removing the right of voluntary assembly

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ecclesia-ancient-Greek-assembly

through bans “for our own good” of normal meeting places - religious, secular, sporting and even media platforms such as Conservative Treehouse - is totalitarian. Not rightist, leftist. Totalitarian.

How dull the world would be if everyone were in agreement with me. Or you. Or anyone. And the magnificence of the culture of the West was that tolerance of different opinions. Now being deployed against us by the intolerant under cover of benign motives.

ked

Col, Your assessment of why the Dems stole only the Presidential election is flawed. Given the theft claim is based upon access to vote-tabulating computer SW, it would be little additional effort to “do unto down-ballot races what was visited upon the top”. Same algorithms... access to the db files... a few mods to executables & voila.

Face it... Trump was almost beaten by one of the worst candidates for pres in US history, & then wore out his welcome w/ the electorate through hard work every day he was on the job. HE blew it.

TV

Jersey:
"War with Iran is almost a lead pipe cinch under this cabal"
I don't think so.
This is the same bunch that gave Iran a path to nuclear weapons AND then sent them pallets of cash -$1.5 billion IIRC.
You see, these people (the Democrat-media party) have something in common with the mullahs - a shared enemy, America.

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