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walrus

I am not in the lease surprised. Rupert did not make a lot of money by being stupid. He supports left wing politicians when it suits him. For example he made Tony Blair into Britain’s Prime Minister.

Take it from me that the Fox decision is a cold hearted icy logic business choice that Rupert believes is in his best interests.

Don’t be sentimental. Rupert is always on the side of the winner. His choice tells you what is coming. There isn’t going to be a”conservative base” as a potentially valuable audience once Biden is President.

That means no one will admit to being a conservative, no conservative will have any money or....

Diana L Croissant

Lately I'd rather watch old Andy Griffith shows than any current news show. Some of us are living in fear, noto of the virus but of what our country has become

I retired earlier than I had to from teaching in the public schools because of what our public schools had become.

It makes me sad sad and fearful for my grandchildren.

LondonBob

The Murdoch children are very left wing, that said Rupert was always a neocon rather than a conservative anyway.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/murdoch-is-daddy-warbucks-to-the-neocons/

JerseyJeffersonian

Larry,
Thank you for this post.
Sorry to send this OT comment and link, but there was no discernably better place to drop it.

CNBC: 'Outrageous' and 'repugnant': Australia demands apology from China over doctored tweet.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/30/australia-prime-minister-demands-apology-from-beijing-over-repugnant-tweet-say.html

The Petulant Panda is throwing its weight around anent Australia. This story, and Australia's handling of it, has provoked some discussion elsewhere at SST, but this is a new wrinkle that is notable in two ways: 1) China's apparently officially-supported propaganda assault under the pressure of questions surrounding its role in the Conavirus' origin and worldwide spread; 2) Twitter's lassitude in taking down, or at minimum, flagging this tweet, when if it originated from "non- progressive" sources here in the USA would likely have received this sort of attention. This certainly jumped out at me, at least.

Feel free to not post if this comment is disruptive to this thread.

Thanks, JJ

BillWade

I will henceforth refer to the MSM as the regime media or RM.

We reluctantly turned off Tucker last week. I felt bad about it as after watching him for a few years my wife slowly left behind her liberal north eastern views and came around to the right side of things. I'll thank him for that.

Free State of Florida

Fred

walrus,

That's correct. The whole point of the lockdowns is to destroy financial independence of Americans. There won't be a conservative base, they will be wards of the state who do what they are told in a corporatocracy.

Christian J. Chuba

I'll say this in FOX's defense but then affirm your premise.

1. At least they have diverse opinions as sharply illustrated in the election coverage and DJT, on CNN they are Stalinists but it looks like the second approach makes for better programming. People want to watch networks that reflect their own views and FOX is no longer providing that.

2. This time, I have really, really stopped watching FOX. I just cannot take their monolithic drumbeat on Iran. No diversity there. The coverage on Iran looks managed to me.

NancyK

Only one of Murdoch's sons veer left and he is not involved with Fox News. Newsmax has increased viewing because they are saying what the listeners want to hear. I don't have cable so I don't listen to any of the news shows however my mother listens to all of them and is intrigued by the different spin on each show.

JerseyJeffersonian

In other, more positive news, Conservative Treehouse has successfully made the move from Wordpress servers - they had been forced to move on the double quick due to some purported violations of terms - and are up and running again. Kudos to the techies who made it so, and two days ahead of deadline.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com

Notably, CTH elected to include not only their posts and ancillary data, but also the comments, since apparently they believe that Deplorables matter. Go figure.

A contrast to the "loyalty" to the base shown by Fox, no?

TV

If Rupert is betting on cutting away a big chunk of CNN/MSNBC viewers, not a good bet.
Those viewers have spent so many years sneering at "Faux News" why would they suddenly desert their very reliable far left hate America channels for an upstart, possibly a "faux" pretender?

Deap

WSJ is not far behind - they have a string of thoroughly irresponsible writers who reek bias and are not labeled as opinion writers.

Deap

I suspect the new Murdoch sons ownership wants to destroy the FOX brand entirely, ditch it and never see FOX News ever mentioned again. Which may be a good thing. Democrats will need to construct a new bête noir.

Fox News is a buzzword slur to shut down anyone who disagrees with progressive lies out here in California -- oh, you just get your information from Faux News - end of discussion.

Funny thing is I never watched Fox News, but the label is immediately attached to any uttered conservative viewpoint out here. More Democrat mind control.

Deap

What gets flushed in this homemade video test gets crazier and crazier, but I still don't see this brand is up to the task of flushing what Fox News has become:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9my850aAjRE

Trigger warning- kind of gross, but not graphic. But a heck of good marketing pitch for this brand- Icera. Just installed in a bathroom remodel.

Potty humor? I guess we are now reduced to that, as the Great Election Steal Lockdown forces us into new net exploration adventures.

elaine

I watch all of them if following a story but lately have paid
more attention to OANN (One America News Network).

CSP

Larry -

I don't understand the logic in comparing August numbers with November numbers for what should be obvious reasons. The better comparison would be Nov. 2020 to Nov. 2019. Those numbers will show a different story for Fox.

different clue

Walrus,

I have only briefly read this article so far, but my understanding is that while Fox News viewer numbers are going down, that Rush Limbaugh's listener numbers are still staying right up where they were, which was always higher than Fox News. And there are other Conservative Radio Talk Show personalities as well, with their own loyal audiences.

So the Conservative Base is bigger than the Fox News audience and it will remain bigger and will still be reachable and mobilizable, only now over the radio more than before.

Have I misunderstood this aspect of the point of Larry Johnson's article?

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