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23 October 2020


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The fraudulent votes matter most to Biden/Harris, they can't win without them.


Fred, that’s an assertion unsupported by independent analysis. in fact, independent analysis is that the “fraudulent election!” trope is a red herring. My own assertion is that the idea is promulgated by those for whom demographic trends in US electorate represent a transcendent threat to their political power.




What is "independent analysis?" I hope you are right because in that case Trump wins and NP is sent home to her ice cream.



You mean like this long list of problems that doesn't meet your personal definition of fraud:
a) Election results in the 2016 primary were posted on the elections office’s website before polls closed, another violation of election law.
b) In 2012, almost 1,000 uncounted ballots were discovered a week after the election
There's more here:
Lots of documented stuff here:


Col, It’s all relative. My own working standard is;
- absent ideological or a priori bias,
- disclosure of bias,
- transparency about relationships to source-providers, motives, sources of funds, background of analysts,
- rejection of reward linked to the effort or results of the work product.

One could argue that is impossible to achieve true independence ... that all in the game are connected & subject to bias. In that case one can seek the “most independent appearing of all available sources” (comparative test). Kinda a version of the Animal Farm test; “all analysis is dependent upon external influence, some are just less dependent than others.”

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