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22 August 2020

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Barbara Ann

Great picture choice J.

walrus

In Australia, we can’t mandate it. What we can do, and I support, is discriminate against idiots who refuse vaccination.

That is what Governments are planning to do and we already have a precedent -kindergarten age children are not admitted to child care facilities till vaccinated.

Polish Janitor

Epstein's lawyer, Alan Dershowitz said a while ago that the federal government has total authority to administrate and enforce mandatory vaccination on people. Trump too has vowed to enforce vaccination with the help of the military (or national guards). Dershowitz argued that because it is the matter of public safety, the constitutional rights of american citizens would be ignored.

What do you think colonel? Is Dershowitz's argument for forced vaccination sound? Will this Virginia plan also include certain religious groups who are notoriously known for their resistance to vaccinations?

J

Walrus,

It seems not according to your Prime Minister. He says COVID vaccine likely to be mandated.

COVID vaccine likely to be mandatory in Australia, Scott Morrison says after signing deal with Oxford University

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-19/morrison-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-mandatory/12572992

Fred

"“It is killing people now, we don’t have a treatment for it and if we develop a vaccine that can prevent it from spreading in the community we will save hundreds and hundreds of lives,” "

Only one lie in there, or did I miss something?

Walrus,

" discriminate against idiots who refuse vaccination."
Yes, and if you had the right information you could even go after your political opponents first. Deny them your corporate services, like the owner of the Red Hen (who drove Sarah Huckabee-Sanders out of the place for working for Trump), Google did to James Dalmore, GoodYear is trying to do to its employees. I can't wait for banks to deny you services, then credit card companies, then delivery services, security services. What's not to like about forcing an untried vaccination - whose manufacturers have blanket immunity - upon those unwilling to bear the risk. President Xi must be laughing his ass off over his country's achievement.

J

Colonel,

It appears that every COVID vaccine that the west is producing has Bill Gates's fingerprints all over them, every one. Gates has been all about chipping people with vaccines. Not only that, but using the vaccines for dual use purposes. There's the experimental RNA/DNA vaccine technologies that could easily be placed into a COVID vaccine to modify/change/insert into one's RNA/DNA changing their entire DNA makeup. Then you have the nanotechnology, of which gel-chipping is but one way to mark a vaccine recipient. Nanotechnologies that deal with dimensions and tolerances of less than 100 nano-meters, and the manipulation of individual atoms and molecules. Nanotech can be used to manipulate the brain remotely.

In short nanotech inside a vaccine could be inserted into the bodies and brains of the global population. Moderna’s nano-particle-driven science uses genetic engineering to trigger cells to create proteins that prevent certain infections. Its vaccines for Zika virus and influenza have already progressed to early clinical stages. Then you have one of the leaders in nanotech development, MIT. One of its professors Robert Langer has helped found 40 tech companies, one of which is Moderna.

Imagine nanotechnology sensors inserted in vaccines, coupled with the 5G technology, well I'll leave it to you to imagine all the 'thangs' this could be used for, i.e. border control, etc..

One of the leading nanoscience researchers in the world was recently arrested on a charge of concealing his connections to China. Charles Lieber, now suspended by Harvard, is the University’s chairman of the chemistry department. Lieber has big time connections to China. Lieber shared research on his speciality -- nanoscience. Just how big of a espionage theft that Lieber is a part of, let's take a look at Wikipedia:
“Charles M. Lieber (born 1959) is an American chemist and pioneer in the field of nanoscience and nanotechnology. In 2011, Lieber was recognized by Thomson Reuters as the leading chemist in the world for the decade 2000-2010 based on the impact of his scientific publications. Lieber has published over 400 papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals and has edited and contributed to many books on nanoscience. He is the principal inventor on over fifty issued US patents and applications, and founded the nanotechnology company Nanosys in 2001 and Vista Therapeutics in 2007. He is known for his contributions to the synthesis, assembly and characterization of nanoscale materials and nanodevices, the application of nanoelectronic devices in biology, and as a mentor to numerous leaders in nanoscience. In 2012, Lieber was awarded Israel’s Wolf Prize in Chemistry.”

What do you want to bet that in addition to his transferring to China, that Lieber also transferred to Israel as well. Lieber has been a principal investigator on at least three NIH grants totaling $10 million since 2008.

Imagine, one world, one brain, thanks to vaccine inserted nanotech.

Here are some interesting reading, (at least interesting to me):

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2019.00022/full

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6180194/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1748013219306929

https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/first-in-human-early-stage-nanotechnology-poised-for-inflection-point-57506309

Leith

Walrus -

Mandatory vaccinations have been been used by most if not all of the 50 states here especially in the case of schoolchildren. The Supreme Court upheld the right of individual states to compel vaccinations over a hundred years ago.

Chuck Light

I remember, if you don't, a time when mandating an experimental vaccine was totally unnecessary, and receiving it was an act of patriotism.

I was part of the double blind study/experiment into the safety and efficacy of the Salk polio vaccine. There were no protests, no shouts of "you are violating my constitutional rights," or refusals to participate that I can recall.

People welcomed the polio vaccine because it was hoped that it would eliminate the scourge of polio, and the iron lung machines which came with the disease. Just as we had virtually cured measles, and had cured smallpox, we hoped that Dr. Salk had found a way to cure polio.

Now, with the advent of anti-vaxxers, and disinformation campaigns about vaccine and autism, polio is resurgent in the third world, and measles is again killing children all over the globe.

I had measles, and I had the mumps, when I was a child, and believe me they were no fun. I willingly participated in the double blind tests of the polio vaccine, even though I was not yet a teenager, because I did not want to contract polio.

Keep demanding your "liberty" until your children contract smallpox. Most of We the People will gladly receive a vaccine in exchange for a long, healthy life.

Paul E Merrell

The power of states to impose mandatory vaccinations was established in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 US 11 (1905), https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16169198038706839183 (smallpox case).

John from Michigan

Walrus:

You would have made a great Nazi.

SysATI

"idiots" ?

You can call me that if you like, but I'll refuse any vaccine produced by a company that makes money selling it.

And, I'll quit any country that forces me to use something I know nothing about, especially something produced by big pharma or Bill Gates.

But if the formula is made public and the generic produced by a state laboratory without any profit involved, then, and only then I'll trust it, use it and let my kids have it...

Otherwise, they can stick it where ever they want but not in me !

BillWade

Good news, Bill Gate's head will explode tonight, President Trump to announce breakthrough therapeutic treatment for covid19 tonight at 6PM.

nightsticker

Col Lang

Maybe there is a good reason why the gun
stores in Virginia are sold out of guns
and ammunition.

Deo Vindice,
Nightsticker

Fubar N Wass

If Bill Gates is involved, I'll wait for version 3.11 before considering it. Y'all can rush to the front of the line to be the beta test sites. Let me know how it works out for you.

English Outsider

As far as I know there's no compulsory vaccination in England.

The arguments for it are pretty well overwhelming. Difficult to make any sort of medical case against those arguments.

But the gross infringement of personal liberty that it would involve is so unacceptable that it must never happen.

Anette Sarkany

They are lying BIG TIME in regards of vaccines and their safety testing are next to none though they have no liability anymore they don't care. There is no double placebo control trial groups. NO VACCINES have ever been tested against a placebo double control groups they test them against other vaccines with the same toxic ingredients in them can you believe this? How criminal is this and still these criminals are allowed to push and even force these toxic waste on to people small babies??! There is No proof of their safety and vaccines are NOT effective only damaging!
VIRUS IS NOT CONTAGIOUS its a natural cell cleansing from the toxic build up in everyones cells within our bodies its "exosomes"! The whole COVID-19 plandemic is a scam/FRAUD and CORONA is the tool to change the world to control us make us sick and for political reasons, so wake the hell up to reality! They want to make us into emotionless hybrids with changing our DNA make up with this dangerous toxic vaccine! COVID-19 vaccine will change ones DNA forever by replacing sequences, no return back and besides that it will have Quantum nano technique in them for identification purposes control of every human with gel chipp insertion that carries info about every humans vaccines etc. This IS pure tyranny and insanity and is crimes against humanity crimes against NUREMBERG CODE!!...
Vaccines is a 200 year old lie from its very inception. Vaccines are designed to cause disease and harm the body in humans and animals, it weakens the immunsystem creates disease autoimmune diseases... Its too much profit in vaccines therefore all the deception lies and cover ups! They DO NOT care about peoples health and life! VAERS has paid out billions in damages but they don't care thats only collateral damages for them they make huge huge profits from vaccines and all the diseases it causes! Cancer alzheimers autism diabetes narcolepsy epilepsy etc.etc for example to mention a few... Vaccin industry goes hand in hand with Big Pharma and is the back bone to Big Pharma! Its business with disease = profit a Win win situation and its all about their profit (control of humans, dumb them down and make you sick a customer to Big Pharma for life..) and vaccines has nothing to do with health and sustaining/ saving lives.... NO ONE I mean NO ONE can force anyone to inject pure poison toxic waste and dna from aborted fetuses babies tissues cells, dna from cows and humans carcinogen agents in to ones own body that is CRIMINAL and need to be adressed as such and prosecuted immediately! I do not consent to any of their forced bullshit!
Vaccines are a biochemical weapon/depopulation method! So many thousands of ppl and small babies has got injured and died from toxic dangerous vaccines NEVER EVER TAKE toxic VACCINES!!! They cause all kinds of disease thats what they are designed to do! Vaccines shed and all epidemics are caused from vaccines! 491.000 children got paralysed from polio vaccines in India, in Kenya vaccines sterilized a whole village of women, In Colombia the vaccines did the same and injured and killed with GARDASIL dangerous vaccines! Well the list is too long to go over here how many have been injured from vaccines and the numbers keep on rising and they cover it up of course, rename diseases symptoms, causes are "unknown" when they KNOW ITS FROM THE VACCINES! Babies come in all smiling healthy to the doctors and after the entire line up with toxic vaccines they are brain damaged not smiling anymore some die few hrs later some severely brain damaged! And they say its not from the vaccines!?? Who are they kidding? 1+1 is 2 nothing else! It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out whats causing these damages! VACCINES of course with its extremely toxic agents! Many injuries don't even get reported etc etc.....Brain damage/swelling after aluminium mercury goes through the blood brain barriar therefore the children have seizures and get Autism epilepsy neurological disorders get paralysed etc.. From early childhood vaccines is so high now for example in California. NOTE that 1/38 of children in USA now have autism, few yrs back it was 1 in 1000, this is because they give them so many toxic vaccines (even flu jabs) with mercury thiomersal aluminium formaldehyde in them! Its so damaging to the body immunsystem and brain! Why does an infant need a HEP B vaccine? Is it sexually active? Does it shoot up drugs? This insanity needs to be stopped all over now! TO REALLY SAVE THE INNOCENT VULNERABLE CHILDREN from these criminals that ONLY want to DAMAGE them for life for their profit this insanity of horror vaccination practice needs to end now because its nothing but criminal and child abuse! WE NEED TO END ALL TOXIC VACCINATIONS NOW! The Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) recently sued the CDC (USA Center for Disease and Control over their statement that vaccines do not cause autism, AND WON!

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Artemesia

@ Chuck Light:

"People welcomed the polio vaccine because it was hoped that it would eliminate the scourge of polio, and the iron lung machines which came with the disease. Just as we had virtually cured measles, and had cured smallpox, we hoped that Dr. Salk had found a way to cure polio."

Dr. Suzanne Humphries argues compellingly that it was not vaccines that "cured" polio, measles, etc., but rather dramatic changes in social situations such as cleaner water, less crowded living conditions, greater attention to personal hygiene and the like.

She supported her claims with a blizzard of graphs and charts. The text of her book is accessible on-line in pdf; unfortunately, all the charts and graphs are not included online.
https://tinyurl.com/yxppjmlx

"Now, with the advent of anti-vaxxers, and disinformation campaigns about vaccine and autism, polio is resurgent in the third world, and measles is again killing children all over the globe."

Examine that last statement a bit more carefully, Chuck Light: it supports Humphries' thesis: It is not "anti-vaxxers" who are causing a "resurgence in the third world."

According to your own words, The resurgence is not occurring in the 'first world,' where the "disinformation campaigns about autism" are taking place but in the Third World, where social conditions are deteriorated.

I wonder what the incidence of autism is in third world?


Mark Logan

J,

It appears several vaccinations are already legally compelled in VA.

https://heav.org/virginia-homeschool-laws/explanation-of-immunization-laws/#:~:text=All%20home%2Deducated%20children%20in,and%20those%20under%20religious%20exemption.

Clearly exemptions are available in those. Expect the same. It's rather unlikely anyone will be forcibly vaccinated. I suspect those who want the economy up and running on all cylinders again ASAP will support such measures.

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To: Mark Logan

Never try to wrestle with a pig. You'll get dirty and the pig likes it.

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