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14 August 2020

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Fred

Larry,

I have to disagree with you. After seeing multiple Antifa and BLM types marching in either Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, or Atlanta with AR-15's aplenty I can assure you the party no longer considers them “assault rifles”. I'll concur on the ammunition shortage, 9mm inventory ran down here, with price hikes accordingly, about 3 weeks ago. Same story in Alachua county too.

Hal

The last few weeks I have been educating myself about air rifles. I last shot one 40 years ago, a 22 caliber pellet rifle. Well...they now range from lower pressure/caliber for plinking/small game to rifles capable of killing bison. I was totally unaware of Pre-charged Pneumatic (PCP) rifles operating at 3500 psi at up to 50 caliber. As well as Pneumatic "cross bows". Food for thought since availability is pretty good.

RHT447

I graduated the U.S. Army Small Arms Repair School at Aberdeen Proving Grounds in '74. There, I just dated myself.

My wife and I live in the DFW area. Our neighbors across the cul-de-sac are our age and bought their house new about 1980. He shot and hunted as a kid, I don't think she has ever fired a gun, but is now keen to learn. Fortunately, I am in a position to offer them the benefit of my experience, lend them a suitable .22, and donate a 50 round box of ammo to the cause.

We moved here from Kalifornia in 2015. This ain't my first rodeo. I am stocked in depth in ammo and components.

Argos

I hate it when grown men whine. Have you looked at the price and availability of pressure treated deck lumber?

Arei

Everyone should remember Jeff Cooper's 4 Rules:
1. All Guns Are Always Loaded
2. Never Let the Muzzle Cover Anything You Are Not Willing To Destroy
3. Keep Your Finger Off the Trigger Until Your Sights Are On Target
4. Be Sure of Your Target and What is Behind It.

A good write up Mr. Johnson, though an AR might be easier for some people to wield and accurately shoot than a pistol.

Ishmael Zechariah

Larry,
re: "And you never point the gun at anyone unless you are intending to shoot that person or persons."
You might have added that one never shoots at a person or persons except to kill.
Truth be told I would be scared with that many "trained" new shooters around. IMO a weekly trip to the range with a dozen or so bullets sent downrange is required to be familiar w/ your favorite BFD.
Ishmael Zechariah

Oilman2

I didn't know what would drive this push, but every time the gun grabbers made noise and we had a Dem or a Rino in as POTUS, I stocked. Last summer I stocked on reloading raw materials, even buying spent rounds from the local range.

TBH, my kids thought I was nuts, and SWMBO raised hell every time she saw a delivery from anywhere she didn't order. But I shoot .3006 for range, and off-the-shelf those are $2 each unless you go with crap powder. 7.62 is better pricewise to the point it wasn't worth reloading until February. .44? .50? Well, let's just say those rounds were much pricier before and scary now.

I have my formerly anti-gun kids (2 of 4) freshly outfitted with 9mm 'ladyguns' after one was accosted in the parking lot leaving work. My boys are to the teeth as well, and we intend to stay this way - just in case things get nutty at the end of the year, or degrade further in terms of civility.

I am seeing adults literally throw fits and have meltdowns over the masking issue. I have seen women gang up on old men and boys gang up on women - all over a mask that is useless in preventing the spread of infection. There is a LOT of choked back rage, and it has been erupting on the road where I live. Fortunately, our gun laws are not restrictive, and it only takes "I am armed, Sir..." and the incident de-escalates quickly in most cases. But these are the signs of declining civility, and nobody knows how far it will go yet.

I am extremely happy to help anyone with their safety and learning to handle things right. It's long overdue for those who are NOT conservative to exercise their weak 2nd amendment muscles. If this craziness does nothing else for us in America, it has surely dealt the gun grabbers one helluva blow.

Our founders were very correct in the 2nd Amendment. No other country is as well armed as ours, and if it doesn't do anything else, it serves as a tremendous deterrent to invasion, along with our 3 coasts...

J

When individuals in conversations bring up their stash of stuff, I ask them one simple question -- do you have re-load capability on every caliber of weapon you own, and if you don't then your firearm is nothing more than an expensive paperweight, when there is no more ammo on the market.

Most seem to be deer-in-the-headlights in never having thought of it from that angle before.

A large percentage of ammo on the U.S. market is produced in China.

If you have firearms, make sure you have your own re-load capability on ever caliber in your inventory.

There is one piece that has been produced in the past 20 years or so I find neat, is the 'cleaning round'. It's almost like a drive-thru MacDonald's for the weapon in question.

A former neighbor of mine used to play with his 50cal, his face lit up like a Christmas tree every time a round went off. I found it highly amusing.

scott s.

Haven't tried to buy anything lately, but that's what I hear. We've had primer hoarding / shortages in the past. For a while I was shooting a lot of 9. Had a friend with a progressive reloader and it wasn't too hard to pull off a couple hundred rounds.

For a nice little self-defense gun / round I kind of like my S'G' M-1 carbine (Saginaw Steering Gear Div of GM). Now thanks to 9th Circuit (and DJT) no problem with standard 15 rnd mags.

Bob of Bonsall

From my side of the Big Pond, it seems wise precautions being taken.

I have a fear of two scenarios playing out.
1: Trump wins in November and the Democrat supported terrorists of BLM/AntiFa push over into full and open rebellion.

2: Biden wins and is very quickly removed from the White House, if he ever gets to his inauguration in the first place, allowing Harris to become POTUS. But what of his manner of removal?
Perhaps "extreme prejudice" in a false flag incident that will give Harris the excuse for some swinging reforms to US Law & even the Constitution?

j. casey

Can anyone explain why the Pres is not hammering every day on the ugly situations in so-called DNC sanctuary cities? I don;t understand why he is not tweeting the daily Chicago body count and people shitting on the sidewalks of SF.

akaPatience

I truly appreciate this informative topic as well as the interesting comments. As someone absolutely ignorant about guns, I never realized how expensive they can be. I just hope all of the increased sales are by good guys and not bad guys.

It's worrisome that BLM (especially since it's teamed up with Antifa) with its unabashed advocacy of criminal measures like attacks on law enforcement, vandalism, looting, other property appropriation, etc., is receiving MANY millions of dollars in donations from wealthy leftists and even [misguided] mainstream corporations.

Peter Hodges

9mm is twice as expensive as 308! Funny thing is I recently bought a 9mm just so I would have something in a normal caliber...now I can't get ammo for it.

blue peacock

American-made plates and barbells from Rogue Fitness are also unavailable.

I guess more people weight-training at home.

Fred

Blue Peacock,

Sun and Steel.

steve

I always send people to the NRA training courses. The guys at our range do an excellent job of teaching. Very patient with new gun owners. Usually pretty easy to find available spots. Wonder if that is still true?

Steve

AK

Peter Hodges

Try gunbroker.com. It's the ebay for firearms. Lots of 9mm available. Usually at high prices but occasionally you can find a "buy now" lot of JHP that comes in at less than $1 a round. That's still very pricey but at least it's there to be had.

J

Friday August 14th saw California's 9th Circuit Federal Court of Appeals reject the State of California's trampling on the 2nd Amendment, in particular the Appeals Court rejected California's ban on so-called large capacity magazines (LCMs) that hold more than 10 rounds of ammo. California's ban was Unconstitutional.

Circuit Judge Kenneth K. Lee explains the breadth of the ban:

California’s law imposes a substantial burden on this right to self-defense. The ban makes it criminal for Californians to own magazines that come standard in Glocks, Berettas, and other handguns that are staples of self- defense. Its scope is so sweeping that half of all magazines in America are now unlawful to own in California. Even law-abiding citizens, regardless of their training and track record, must alter or turn over to the state any LCMs that they may have legally owned for years — or face up to a year in jail.

See:
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2020/08/14/19-55376.pdf

RoyM4

try ammoseek.com to see what is available by mail order and the prices. Per round prices for about everything, when it is available, is now about twice what it was just a few months ago.

Den lille abe

I dont care much really. I live in Europe. I have plenty of 9 mm round and .308 rounds stocked up.
5.56 is a puxxy caliber, made for puxxy guns lie the AR-15, real men use German or Belgian semi autos, or if you are a good shot German or Austrian hunting rifles.
I own a German built riffle with a Zeiss scope on and I can easily hit anything at 800 meters within a smaller plate.
Even the old G3 is a highly effective weapon, can even go full auto, takes practice and mass, but a very reliable and simple gun.
(WWII 9 mm and 308 is widely available here, ahem, ahem, you know what I mean, eh? you know what I mean ?)

Keith Harbaugh

On a subject Larry has extensively covered in the past:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/18/why-john-brennan-peter-strzok-and-doj-needed-julian-assange-arrested-and-why-uk-officials-obliged-2/ (2020-08-17)

This is quite a long and important piece which lays out and connects a lot of dots.
Here is an outline (which omits Sundance's review of the various FBI/Strzok/CIA/Mifsud/Halper/UK connections):

"In this outline we will explain where corrupt U.S. and U.K. interests merge.

...

[C]ongressman Dana Rohrabacher talked to Julian Assange in August of 2017:
'Assange told a U.S. congressman … he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents … did not come from Russia.'

...

It doesn’t take a deep researcher to see the aligned Deep State motive to control Julian Assange because the Mueller report was dependent on Russia cybercrimes, and that narrative is contingent on the Russia DNC hack story which Julian Assange disputes.

This is critical. The Weissmann/Mueller report contains claims that Russia hacked the DNC servers as the central element to the Russia interference narrative in the U.S. election. This claim is directly disputed by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, as outlined during the Dana Rohrabacher interview, and by Julian Assange on-the-record statements.

...

The CIA holds a massive conflict of self-interest in upholding the Russian hacking claim.
The FBI holds a massive interest in maintaining that claim.
All of those foreign countries whose intelligence apparatus participated with Brennan and Strzok also have a vested self-interest in maintaining that Russia hacking and interference narrative.

Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has claimed he has evidence it was not from a hack.

This Russian “hacking” claim is ultimately so important to the CIA, FBI, DOJ, ODNI and U.K intelligence apparatus…. Well, right there is the obvious motive to shut Assange down as soon intelligence officials knew the Mueller report was going to be public.

Now, if we know this, and you know this; and everything is cited and factual… well, then certainly AG Bill Barr knows this.

The $64,000 dollar question is: will they say so publicly?"

Keith Harbaugh

With regard to Rohrbacher's claim about what he was told by Assange,
there is one development worth noting:
the claim, strongly denied by the WH and Rohrbacher, that that was prompted by the promise of a Presidential pardon:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/uk/assange-trump-pardon-rohrabacher-us-gbr-intl/index.html

Fred

Keith,

Thanks so much for yet another comment having nothing to do with the thread and for the pronouncement of collective guilt of all CIA and FBI employees. Please go shoot up Sundance's place with your insights.

Dale

Thanks Keith for the update. I was just about to move along from the Guns/Ammo freak-out when I saw your comment....

c1ue

Nice writeup.
It is amusing, though, just how deluded people are thinking that owning a gun is going to help against a true mob.
Only a 50 cal machine gun would do that, or a reasonably large group of armed, trained people.

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