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BillWade

Walrus, Suppose this "crisis" lasts for the next 10 years. Will you still feel the same way or will you have wished that you hadn't been so cautious?

Doctor Cutie wants us to start wearing goggles now, what's next, ear muffs?

The island of Phuket in Thailand has 330 thousand people out of work, tourism is their dominating industry. Those folks are not getting a hand-out, they are going hungry.

AK

blue peacock,

That would certainly fall under the "other" incentive category, and again, would be a perfectly plausible explanation. The end result is still the same - highly inflated "positive" test numbers.

Leith

J -

No vaccine is 100% effective. None!

guidoamm

@Outrage beyond

Florida has a population of 21'500'000

With total infections of 480'000 you are looking at a IFR of 2.2%

Data from the cruise ships and the war ships tell us that maximum infections run at about 22% within a given population.

So, Florida is doing well by that metric.

As a virus, Covid 19 does what a virus does. Infections are far more widespread than stated. Waste water tests in Europe and the USA tell us it is so.

Moreover.

If we take at face value the numbers peddled by the experts:

Infection rate is 3
An individual becomes infectious on day 2 of being infected and remain infectious till around day 12

If you run the math, you will see that in 40 days the entire global population would be infected.

Day 1, 1 infected person

Day 3, 4 infected persons (the original person + 3 more infections)

Day 5, 16 infected persons

Run the math and you will see that if you take the numbers at face value, the entire world should have succumbed to this virus by now.

Two fundamental questions that should be asked.

The math being what it is.

How long was it before the medical community realised, then came to terms and finally agreed we had a new virus on our hands?

Did it take us 1 week to realise a new virus broke out on the scene?

Did it take us 2 weeks?

The long and the short of it is that Covid 19 is real.

What we are being told however, is highly skewed and often makes no sense.

Data from the ships is solid yet nobody of consequence makes reference to it nor does it inform policy making.

Ships' data tells us that there is a degree of immunity in the general population.

Ships' data also tells us that infection and mortality are only marginally more dire than previous virus pandemics.

Ships'data tells us that there is a whole lot of political theatre going on.


guidoamm

Correction.

If you take Worldmeter's numbers as good then:

7022 deaths on 480'000 infections gives an IFR of 1.46%

Overall however, the mortality for the population of Florida is 0.03%

With a population of 21.5M and infections of 480'000 the infection rate is running at 2.2%.

Now of course epidemiologists are falling over each other to tell us that what is scaaaaary about this virus is not the mortality. Rather, what makes this virus UNIQUE is the consequences it has on the body.

That's where we are.

turcopolier

upstater

There is no doubt that COVID-19 is deadly to people of Cain's age.

Per

"walrus

I am surprised that you resort to talking down to people as Luddites."

turcopolier
He have no other alternatives, he bought the lie hook line and sinker so he have invested his "honor". Backing down and admit you got fooled is not easy for some people. Even a semi retarded Norwegian moron like me can see that corona have been hijacked so certain power hungry billionaires and their owned politicians can "reset" the economy and force us to live oilfree lives like the 18 century.. Malthusian anti human creeps is behind this bs imo.

John from Michigan

Fred said it best above. Once again the baby boomers (who are the largest group of the vulnerable population) are effing over future generations of Americans, this time by shutting down the country to protect their oxygen wasting asses.

Deap

A good description is this partisan Democrat and media Covid hysteria got us into a cul de sac. No one figured out to get out of it, once they drove us into it.

Lesson learned: Have a plan upfront to get out of anything you also choose to get into. Plan B, retreat strategy, back-up plan, face-saving... did they all miss reading the Yellow Emperor? Except the Democrats drove us into exactly where they wanted us to be right now. An GOP never applied the brakes to even ask for the final destination road map.

Regardless, we simply cannot risk putting Democrats back in power - they fully showed us what they intend to do: drive us off the cliff. The LA Teacher Union list of demands is all you need to read about the Democrat game plan. Only thing missing is the ETA.

Eric Newhill

Sir,
Also, Cain had undergone cancer treatment. I don't know the details of his treatment, but cancer treatment often involves permanent damage to the immune system.

Flavius

So much contradictory information out there, sometimes emanating from the same person. Here's looking at you Dr. Fauci.
I live in a 'hot spot' county in the state of NJ. My anecdotal contribution to the conversation is that even within the confines of the county it appears to be all about "location, location, location." Operating on the principle that people need people a damn sight more than they need to be hermetically sealed in a room approved by the state of NJ and Dr Fauci, I try to assess reasonably the risks associated with the people I'm with, the place I'm at, and the reason for being there. For someone who is reasonably sure he is not sick, putting on a mask strikes me as absurd. For someone who is asymptomatic and has no reason to think he has been exposed to go for testing in a place where people have gone presumably because they are symptomatic strikes me as beyond absurd.
And of course the bureaucrat promoters of science are political: it is a political act to assess the risks of attending a blm 'protest' as acceptable but attending church on Sunday represents an unacceptable risk. Making that distinction is purely political and to the extent it pretends to science, is almost certainly bad science.
Is there any wonder that people have taken, or are trying to take to the extent of what they can get away with, to thinking for themselves on the subject. If Dr Fauci's size is ever made to fit all, we're not in America anymore, Todo.

Mike46

Colonel:

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Rod

Terence Gore

https://www.un.org/en/coronavirus/covid-19-and-arab-region-opportunity-build-back-better

From the UN Secretary General on his build back better

"First, immediate measures to slow the spread of the disease, end conflict and meet the urgent needs of the most vulnerable.

That means prioritising life-saving health care to COVID-19 victims, respecting the call for a global ceasefire; ensuring humanitarian assistance to the most vulnerable — including refugees, displaced and host communities; providing emergency support to individuals and households; and taking steps to relieve debt, promote trade and expand relief — for example, through a regional solidarity fund.

Second, we must deepen efforts to address inequalities by investing in universal health and education; social protection floors; and technology.

The region is home to the world’s largest gender gap in human development. COVID-19 recovery is an opportunity to invest in women and girls, ensure equal rights and participation — which will have lasting benefits for all.

Education and opportunities are also critical for young people in the region who face unemployment rates five times higher than those for adults. With the right investments, Arab youth — now the largest age group in the region — can also be its largest asset.

Third, boosting the economic recovery through reimagining the region’s economic model in favour of more diversified, green economies.

That means creating decent sustainable jobs; introducing progressive taxation measures; ending fossil fuel subsidies; and taking greater account of climate risks.

Fourth, now is the moment to prioritize human rights, ensure a vibrant civil society and free media and create more accountable institutions that will increase citizen trust and strengthen the social contract.

All of these steps are pivotal to helping the Arab region build back better ..."


https://joebiden.com/build-back-better/

"Mobilize American manufacturing and innovation to ensure that the future is made in America, and in all of America. We’ve seen the importance of bringing home critical supply chains so that we aren’t dependent on other countries in future crises. But Biden believes we can’t stop there — he is releasing a plan today to build a strong industrial base and small-business-led supply chains to retain and create millions of good-paying union jobs in manufacturing and technology across the country.
Mobilize American ingenuity to build a modern infrastructure and an equitable, clean energy future. We’ve seen the need for a more resilient economy for the long-term, and that means investing in a modern, sustainable infrastructure and sustainable engines of growth — from roads and bridges, to energy grids and schools, to universal broadband. Biden will soon release updated proposals to meet the climate crisis, build a clean energy economy, address environmental injustice, and create millions of good-paying union jobs.
Mobilize American talent and heart to build a 21st century caregiving and education workforce which will help ease the burden of care for working parents, especially women. We’ve seen in this pandemic the immense burdens working parents, and especially women, carry in juggling their jobs and their caregiving responsibilities. We’ve learned anew how hard this work is, and how underappreciated those who do it are. Joe Biden will soon announce a plan to make it far easier to afford child care and to ensure aging relatives and people with disabilities have better access to home and community-based care; to elevate the pay, benefits, and professional opportunities for caregivers and educators; to create millions of good-paying new jobs in these areas with a choice to join a union; and to free up millions of people to join the labor force and grow a stronger economy in return.
Mobilize across the board to advance racial equity in America. We’ve seen again this year the tragic costs of systemic racism. Biden believes that addressing those costs has to be core to every part of the economic agenda, and also a distinct priority in its own right. As President, he will pursue a dedicated agenda to close the racial wealth gap, to expand affordable housing, to invest in Black, Latino, and Native American entrepreneurs and communities, to advance policing and criminal justice reform, and to make real the promise of educational opportunity regardless of race or zip code."

Remarkable that they have similar goals and tag line. It gives me the feel that this crisis is highly coordinated. Hell we ain't even sure what we have been through yet

AK

Eric Newhill,

Apparently he had rather recently undergone treatment for stage IV colon cancer. So whatever the treatment was, we can be damn sure that it took its toll on him.

akaPatience

Mike46, it is NOT fake news that Ohio banned the use of HCQ to treat C-19. However, the governor convinced the state pharmacy board (who issued the ban, which was to be effective July 30) to reverse its policy decision.

Fred

AK,

"stage IV colon cancer"

That seems fatal all by itself. But the press sure wouldn't want to report that cause of death for a prominent Republican supporter of Trump.

Deap

Some one is lying about St George Floyd too - and why they refused to release this pre-death police camera video until now: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/police-body-cam-video-shows-belligerent-george-floyd-on-drugs-resisting-arrest-before-death/

We are in the grips of Maya - The Hindu Goddess of Illusion.

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