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J

The first thing that should popped up like a red flag that Fauci was a few bricks of a shy load upstairs, was his 'luv' for Hillary.


From 2013:

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/sketchy-fauci-2.jpg

Mike46

Fauci doesn't matter. Over the weekend the WH tried to strongarm parents to get on board with school reopening. They are fucking with the wrong interest group.

Mark K Logan

There is a better, albeit a more difficult way to undermine Fauci. Educate the people that this issue has vast economic consequences and we must factor in those consequences when crafting an over-all policy. Fauci, I expect, will openly admit he is approaching the topic from a purely medical perspective...which is exactly what he's supposed to be doing.

As is, Trump is leaves himself wide open to the obvious counter: Neither he nor his economic adviser have any medical expertise.

Trump may be trapped in a zero-sum game mindset.

Terence Gore

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/bobby-kennedy-jr-claims-dr-fauci-gates-foundation-will-make-billions-coronavirus-vaccine/

"Tony Fauci has many, many vaccine patents… and there’s one vaccine patent that he has that is a way of packaging a coronavirus with some other vaccine … in a protein sheet… and then delivering it through a vaccine… he somehow ended up owning that patent… Tony Fauci will be able to cash in …. So Fauci’s agency will collect half the royalties for that vaccine [related to the coronavirus]."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4-DMKNT7xI

The founding of moderna on mrna medicine. At end of video talks about analogy of climbing Mt Everest and needed to have 1 big investor

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/14/early-moderna-backer-on-core-investing-lesson-from-big-covid-19-bet.html

"Sunderland co-founded the VC firm, known for making ambitious investments, after having led program-related investments for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which provided financial support to Moderna while she was there. Since 2010, Moderna has been working on developing messenger RNA (mRNA) that allows the body’s cells to act like reprogrammed biological factories, producing antibodies needed to battle diseases, including viruses.

“The nice thing about big bets is that they play out over time. ... We made an investment five years ago in Moderna, and mRNA was a big bet, and you see it playing out in terms of their ability to get a rapid vaccine for Covid. ... You have to take those big bets,” Sunderland said."


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html


https://www.ajmc.com/interviews/fauci-countless-lives-have-been-saved-but-a-vaccine-and-cure-remain-elusive

Fauci interview

"The other thing that is amazing in its evolution is the amount that we’ve learned about HIV pathogenesis, the reservoir, the potential for controlling the virus, either in the absence of antiretroviral [treatment] or in a modified regimen that takes away the need to have a single pill or multiple pills every single day. The thing that remains the holy grail of unaccomplished goals is the development of a highly effective, safe vaccine. And that is something that’s not surprising because of the very special situation with HIV, that the body—as much as we study pathogenesis and understand it so incredibly well—the body does not make an adequate immune response against HIV, which is the reason why no one has yet spontaneously cleared the virus by their immune system. And so what we need to do, and where we’re combination putting a lot of effort into, but also struggling with, is the issue of the development of a vaccine that would be effective enough to be able to be deployed.

We have one situation that took place, well after that meeting in San Francisco, where a trial of a candidate vaccine—in a trial named RV 144 that took place in Thailand—showed a 31% efficacy, which gave us some great hints of correlates of immunity and are the basis for a number of subsequent trials, but still was not good enough to deploy. So we have a number of very large vaccine trials, going on now throughout the world, including a heavy concentration in southern Africa. But we also are pursuing another line of vaccine research, which is the attempt to present to the body, in the proper conformation with sequential immunizations, the capability of making broadly neutralizing antibodies. And if we're successful in that, then I think we have a really good chance of developing a vaccine that would have an efficacy and safety profile good enough to actually deploy it."

I think over time mrna "vaccines" will change medicine. Are we opening Pandora's box? Possibly.

egl

Is this the same Navarro who warned in February that a million Americans could lose their lives to coronavirus?

haiku222

There is an excellent interview of Dr. Fauci by Stanford School of Medicine Dean Lloyd Minor (July 13, 2020).
Too much to summarize, please read for yourself here:
http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/07/anthony-fauci-in-conversation-with-lloyd-minor.html

Mike46

So Fauci has been wrong about everything?

A casual observation and a question: Whose job is on the line? It ain't Fauci's.

Seamus Padraig

Fauci is a Gates Foundation operative. (So is Neil Fergueson in Britain.)

turcopolier

Mike46

If Trump is re-elected Fauci will quickly be gone as will Milley and a few others.

haiku222

Peter Navarro, Trump’s top trade adviser, wrote an op-ed for USA Today yesterday claiming that Fauci has been “wrong about everything I have interacted with him on.” (A Trump communications aide tried to distance the White House from the op-ed this morning.)
“I cannot figure out in my wildest dreams why they would want to do that,” Fauci told The Atlantic, in reference to the White House document. “I think they realize now that that was not a prudent thing to do, because it’s only reflecting negatively on them.


Anthony Fauci: I stand by everything I said. Contextually, at the time I said it, it was absolutely true … [The White House document] is totally wrong. It’s nonsense. It’s completely wrong. The whole thing is wrong. The whole thing is incorrect.
I can’t explain Peter Navarro. He’s in a world by himself. So I don’t even want to go there.
The Atlantic: You met Monday with Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff. What did you tell him?

Fauci: I said that that was not particularly a good thing to do. Ultimately, it hurts the president to do that. When the staff lets out something like that and the entire scientific and press community push back on it, it ultimately hurts the president. And I don’t really want to hurt the president. But that’s what’s happening. I told him I thought it was a big mistake. That doesn’t serve any good purpose for what we’re trying to do.

The Atlantic: Did Meadows offer an explanation or an apology?

Fauci: No. There was no apology. He said that he didn’t know about it.
Even though we are in the middle of a setback now—you can’t deny that; look at the numbers, you’re dealing with 40,000 to 60,000 infections in a day—it doesn’t mean we’re going to be defeated. But states that are in trouble right now, if those states pause and say, “Okay, we’re going to do it right, everyone wear a mask, bars closed, no congregating in crowds, keep your distance, protect the vulnerable”—if we do that for a few weeks in a row, I’ll guarantee you those numbers will come down.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/trump-fauci-coronavirus-pandemic-oppo/614224/

turcopolier

haiku222

Infections mean nothing. Deaths are what matters.

haiku222

I agree with you that deaths are the most significant indicator of the seriousness of coronavirus. Of course there will still be debate about the process of attribution of cause of death, as many/most are the result of more than a single cause.
Here is an analysis from today's news:

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There is no mystery in the number of Americans dying from COVID-19.

Despite political leaders trivializing the pandemic, deaths are rising again: The seven-day average for deaths per day has now jumped by more than 200 since July 6, according to data compiled by the COVID Tracking Project at The Atlantic. By our count, states reported 855 deaths today, in line with the recent elevated numbers in mid-July.

The deaths are not happening in unpredictable places. Rather, people are dying at higher rates where there are lots of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations: in Florida, Arizona, Texas, and California, as well as a host of smaller southern states that all rushed to open up.

The deaths are also not happening in an unpredictable amount of time after the new outbreaks emerged. Simply look at the curves yourself. Cases began to rise on June 16; a week later, hospitalizations began to rise. Two weeks after that—21 days after cases rose—states began to report more deaths. That’s the exact number of days that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has estimated from the onset of symptoms to the reporting of a death.
endquote

if you clik on this link, you can find a chart that displays "nationwide covid-19 metrics" including deaths:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/second-coronavirus-death-surge/614122/

haiku222

Florida on Thursday broke its single-day death record for the second time this week, reporting 156 new fatalities. It was one of 10 states to reach a record for deaths in a single day this week, joining Idaho, Alabama, Arizona, Utah, Oregon, Texas, Hawaii, Montana and South Carolina.

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