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02 June 2020

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BillWade

I live in an area where there is zero chance of rioting/looting ever happening. However, an Aldi's supermarket has now boarded up their windows. Aldi's is European owned I believe. As a result of this, a woman nearby to Aldi's who owns a small restaurant has posted on FB that she's now too scared to keep her place open and has gone home to stay. Aldi's on the other hand, are still doing business. We're being played.

plantman

Where is the antifa guy getting the money to pay these jokers? Who is funding this?

We don't even know who this ringleader is? Is he "deep state"?? After 3 years of intel-media operations aimed at sinking Trump, that must be considered a possibility.

plantman

Colonel, Let's say you caught this guy handing out money to the rioters. How would you interrogate him? How would you find out who's really running this operation?

Doesn't Trump have the tools to locate a guy like this and get to the bottom of this mess??

Eric Newhill

Blacks have their own movements involved in this too. Check out the Revolutionary Abolitionist Movement. Totally dedicated to eliminating prisons, police, borders, private property and whitey. They have have been actors in the riots per their own face book page and their website.

jerseycityjoan

I don't feel I know what's going on.

After spending hours last night watching TV and trying as best to keep up on the internet, it's clear that New York City needs the National Guard at a minimum and probably active military too. We need much more manpower around the country.

Here's Daily Beast reporter @rachelolding observed last night: "There a very clear distinction between the peaceful protesters and the non-peaceful. At one point, organizers instructed "peaceful protesters" to turn left and march east. A sizable group kept walking south - they started looting minutes later." She described kids by the hundreds going up the avenues in New York going from store to store looting and putting the merchandise into waiting Mercedes.

Like I said, I don't understand what is going on but it's time to say "Uncle" and do what needs to be done to stop this mayhem. At the same time the peaceful, real protesters should be left alone.

eakens

Here's a video from 2017, reposted to YT a few days ago from a BLM organizer in Ferguson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8SSPxVxSI


jerseycityjoan

I have a bad feeling about New York. I just saw on Brooke Baldwin on CNN bring up mess last night and comes right out and says the city needs help. She asks reporter if they will get it and he says he doesn't think so, DeBlasio turned down National Guard. Cuomo talked about his decision earlier today and he chose not to overrule it. I think that's a big mistake. It makes no sense. There were numerous incidents last night of law enforcement getting into trouble last night around the country. New York is asking for injuries and deaths.

The on the street reporter commented that it was a beautiful thing to see peaceful demonstrators passing by NYU. Brooke agreed. I agree. The contrast between the legitimate protestors and the looters and troublemakers couldn't be greater.

The Twisted Genius

Even the poster of that video said he was making an assumption about who that provocateur was. He still should be apprehended and questioned. He could be Antifa, anarchist or some white nationalist stirring things up for the boogaloo.

This is from 30 May:
“Department of Safety Commissioner John Harrington said they are contact-tracing the arrested and added that an investigation is underway about white nationalist groups posting online to encourage their members to use the protests as a cover to create chaos. He said some of the 40 arrests made in the Twin Cities Friday night were of people linked to white supremacist groups and organized crime.”

https://www.courthousenews.com/minnesota-officials-link-arrested-looters-to-white-supremacist-groups

I was glad to hear about the contact tracing. I immediately thought of the movie "Battle of Algiers" That movie was one of the first things we watched and discussed in depth when I went through the Q course at Bragg in 1981. I'm sure it's available online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb-OBWU4qY4

The contact tracing and other good intel/police investigation work is needed. Wackos of all strains are clearly using the protests as cover for whatever their cause or reason happens to be. Here's another example:

"A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of Antifa was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account. Before it emerged the account was run by white supremacists, Donald Trump Jr., President Donald Trump's son, pointed his 2.8 million Instagram followers to the account as an example how dangerous Antifa is.
The fake account, @ANTIFA_US, tweeted Sunday, "ALERT Tonight's the night, Comrades Tonight we say "F**k The City" and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours #BlacklivesMaters #F**kAmerica."
"Absolutely insane," Trump Jr. wrote on Instagram, sharing a screenshot of the tweet, "Just remember what ANTIFA really is. A Terrorist Organization! They're not even pretending anymore."
A spokesperson for Donald Trump Jr. did not provide comment to CNN Tuesday morning, but later the post was removed from Trump Jr.'s Instagram feed. There is no indication whatsoever that Trump Jr. knew who was behind the account or that it was fake. Twitter said that the account was in fact linked to Identity Evropa, a white power fraternity."

A white power fraternity... that's rich, although they do operate on college campuses for recruitment. Identity Evropa recently changed their name to American Identity Movement. They're still a white supremacist/white nationalist group. I guarantee they're far more centralized and organized than Antifa.

OTOH, a lot of the troublemakers are just apolitical chuckleheads of every color in it strictly for the loot or the shits and giggles. Here's an example from the Metro Nashville PD:

"BREAKING: Specialized Investigations Division detectives & SWAT officers moments ago arrested Wesley Somers, 25, on charges of felony arson, vandalism, & disorderly conduct for setting fire to Nashville's Historic Courthouse Saturday night."

This sad sack was arrested in 2016 for shooting heroin in a Walmart parking lot with two kids in the car. He’s not a right wing or left wing agitator, just a sad, sad loser.

Andrei Martyanov

I am shocked, shocked, I tell you, by this. I cannot believe this.... nah, I am just being facetious. Of course one can expect an "organized element" in all that with all mullah required for this type of affairs. Boy, surviving the collapse of USSR suddenly is coming back. We, of course, had a lot more shooting and all kinds of ammo flying around, but it is clear that there are forces behind all that and, as much as I cannot stand GOP, I am sure there are many people "on the left" (which is not really left) who are interested in getting White House back and if they need to destroy the country for this--they will.

Wolf Shedler

this needs to stop now or we will loose our civilized world

BillWade

JerseyCityJoan, It does look bad for NYC tonight. I watched a live feed video half an hour ago and thousands, if not 10s of thousands, are out now marching.

Deap

Andrei, what is it you think about the GOP that you "cannot stand"? Not a debate; just curious. Looking to see what comes across as loathsome. My own quibble with Democrats is primarily fiscal and size of government. Therefore, GOP by default.

turcopolier

TTG

So you have bought into the "white supremacist provocation" meme. How disappointing.

Andrei Martyanov

@Deap.

Andrei, what is it you think about the GOP that you "cannot stand"?

It is a profoundly neocon (a war party, albeit today it makes no difference in D.C.)) party which is responsible largely for Iraq debacle, for once. Economically they are complete loonies bound by ties to stock market. It is not just GOP, there are issues with the "elite" as a whole, party affiliation regardless.

rho

In Germany, the Left Party (successor party of the Stalinist SED from East Germany) and the Social Democrat SPD are publically declaring their solidarity with Antifa in reaction to Trump's announcement that he wants to designate it as a domestic terror organisation.

https://twitter.com/dieLinke/status/1267335775634456576
("We are happily retweeting this because of current events: We love Antifa")
https://twitter.com/spdde/status/1267371616788525057
("[We were founded] 157 [years ago] and are Antifa. Of course.")

Can't find anything on the official Green Party account, but the current head of the party youth organisation posted something similar:

https://twitter.com/annarmpeters/status/1267145258950971392
("Antifa - forever, forever [2 hearts]")

eakens

If it was white supremacist doing this, why would people be writing and posting "black owned business" on their storefronts?

Eric Newhill

TTG,
We can all watch the videos of the riots and see with our own eyes who is burning, looting, assaulting. Depending on the city, it ranges, by my estimate, from about 90% Black to maybe as low as 50%.

Are you saying that blacks have no agency? A covert white supremacist tells them to burn and kill and they just follow orders? Typical democrat attitude. Blacks are still slaves to them.

jerseycityjoan

New York Post writer @joemarino_ tweets that the massive looting has local gang connection:

"Based on witness accounts (my own included) and what sources have confirmed - these are not isolated incidents / burglaries by ‘outside’ actors with political/protest affiliation as some theorized."

"After watching hundreds (if not thousands of people) run through midtown/Soho looting with speed, efficiency and coordination - a high ranking LE source confirmed this is overwhelmingly local Manhattan and Brooklyn gang activity. This should trouble any New Yorker."

I wonder if that is true in other areas experiencing massive looting.

Upstater

Antifa MUST be getting debit cards linked to a Soros connected bank? Like the ones in Maidan Square in 2014? Or the pink pussy hats in DC in 2017?

"the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure."

Fred

Andrei,

" I am sure there are many people "on the left" (which is not really left) who are interested in getting White House back and if they need to destroy the country for this--they will."

That's the way it looks over here too. The Wuhan virus dominated the news and now the left's riot squads do the same, otherwise the press might be paying attention to the sedition that occured during the Obama administration.

BillWade

I was swimming just a few minutes ago and realized I've seen this before and there is a partial solution. Back in the 90s Tampa elected a very far-left mayor, Sandy Freedman. She vastly underfunded our police department,they couldn't pull over cars with headlights out because the police cars were in worse shape. She then decided police would no longer be allowed to chase after car thefts. Well,car thefts went up substantially, usually 100 per day. The auto insurers gave her a mandate: "You either stop this nonsense or we'll cancel every single insurance policy in your city". She had to comply and happily was not reelected. She also wanted public housing in South Tampa, the ritzy area.

The major property insurers should band together and let these city/state governments know and now - no more insurance in your city/state and we're going to fight to not pay any claims resulting from the riots in your city/state as you did nothing to prevent the damage.

Patrick Armstrong

And colour revolution chickens fly home to roost.
So, gotta ask you, as people living on the top floor of a meth house: who's doing this?

anon

Plantman

Maybe you missed it but the riots and marching are being supported by whites now.No riots no whites.No whites no votes in November.So who would support this.
Trump needs to grab something,anything,and wear it on his head.

BillWade

BREAKING: 2 crates filled with pipe bombs discovered near Korean War Memorial in DC after suspects spotted in bushes. Federal assets in pursuit

Jack Posobiec on twitter

These people mean business.

TV

The cops can't control these riots because the cops are soft - the "new breed."
The cops come from a soft society.
American society has been going soft ("feminized", if you will) over the last 40-50 years.
Wear a helmet (now a mask) everywhere, NEVER be "offensive", always be humble and meek, contact sports barely tolerated, everyone gets an award for anything, "safe spaces."
Take absolutely NO risks because they all think they're going to live forever.
Products of an "education system" that is run by and for females.
The latest example is the massive hysterical overreaction re. the corona virus.
Americans - especially the under-40's - have shown themselves to be a nation of lambs - baby sheep.

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