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14 April 2020

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Christian J Chuba

I've posted many times that we should take a look at how S.Korea and Japan dealt with it. Between the two of them they have had less than 400 deaths.

But our character is to get angry and smash tables. If I was trying to channel this anger, I'd try to steer it this way, 'our enemies are going to try to infect a factory farm in Mexico or the in the U.S. next'. I'd try to get us to adopt the same solutions that Japan and S.Korea have but frame it in the context of national defense, not a mundane health issue.

Whether China did this intentionally or not, this is our soft underbelly. We were totally unprepared. If we just try to get even it will happen again.

Bobo

MIA meant something 50+ years ago and still does but the page is turning as today MIA means Made in America, does not matter if North or South, as the Chinaman will not receive my dollars anymore.
Actions speak louder than words and this will take time but the Chinaman has had his last hurrah.

turcopolier

TonyL

If you are NOT strongly against Communism, you do not belong at SST. This is an anti-communist blog. Anyone who thinks Communism is not a great evil knows no history. To understand that Communism is evil and that China IS an enemy is not warped. It is realistic.

sam

Here is the timeline of the latest outbreaks of new viruses

SARS 2003

six years laters-2009
Swine Flue

Six years later-2015
Ebola and MERS

5 yers later 2020
COVID 19

Jack

General Robert Spalding Interview: ‘China is already at war with us.’

https://blackballmedia.ca/2020/04/15/general-robert-spalding-interview-china-is-already-at-war-with-us/

Another military man agrees with Col. Lang. The CCP is at war with us.

AK

TonyL,

In your estimation, at what point in history did today's CCP shed its blood-soaked track record (the blood of millions upon millions of CHINESE) to become just another style of government in which one could easily find value and virtue, if only one could truly understand their "culture"?

This is not a matter of cultural relativism. Chinese culture did not produce Communism. It was conquered by Communism. The Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were arguably the two greatest feats of murder and mayhem in human history, fueled by an ideology built on the revenge and resentment inherent in every human heart. It was just a matter of getting enough of the populace to buy into that part of their individual souls and sacrifice the rest for "the good of the collective". Such is always the case when a society crumbles into despotism and mass murder. It's never top-down. The people always willingly participate.

I may be wrong and I don't want to ascribe a position to you that you don't hold, but do you or do you not view the Chinese Communist Party and its system as just an alternative form of government one could reasonably choose, much as one prefers rocky road over mint chocolate chip when it comes to ice cream?

I ask because it seems that many Americans have somehow come up with a way to divorce the current iteration of the CCP from its horrific history and its blatantly murderous ideological foundation. Personally, I don't see how this is accomplished absent either a massive case of historical ignorance or willful acceptance and adoption of the Marxist/Maoist philosophy itself (and by extension its consequences in practice).

I find the poem linked below to be a succinct summation of the kind of vengeful and resentful mentality that underpins Marxism, in the form of a little verse from the man himself. Lovely stuff.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/verse/verse11.htm

Mark K Logan

AK,

I'll raise the question of China's current love of communism.

The Great Leap was nearly a half-century ago, and all the Maoists that I'm aware of are outside of China. A few small groups of weirdos and that's about it. In the days of Mao they were certainly avid Marxists, no question, but is that still true? They certainly have strongly embraced many aspects of capitalism in the last couple decades. They are now working on developing their domestic markets so they won't be as dependent on exports.

Have they and are they not morphing, albeit in fits and starts, towards capitalism? Barring a major bloody revolution, is this slow sort of change exactly what should be expected if it were to take place?

The government IMO only pays lip service to communist ideals these days. They certainly have a totalitarian government but they haven't cited ol' Karl much of late. At least not as far as I know of.

Jim S

Communists believe the State is the rightful arbiter of morality; Socialists aren't that interested in philosophy, but can't see the downside of giving the State more power.

Of all the people who have ever dabbled in Marxism, the people at the top of communist hierarchies are not "true Marxists": they are in a position to know that Marx's Utopia is a pipe dream and that they cannot scientifically build a better man. But finding themselves unchallenged for control of a nation's wealth and power, they have no reason to give Marx up.

Communism, like other forms of materialism (see American consumerism), turns a people into a caricature of itself. More so for China, because Mao deliberately destroyed traditional culture and morality.

Eric Nehwill

Mark Logan,
The Chinese are collectivists with little regard for the individual and his/her rights whether they permit a little capitalism or not.

TonyL

Colonel and AK,

Thanks for your response.

I am strongly against Communism. And I also know how ruthless the CCP is and so were the now-deceased communist leaders.

I just have a cold heart in looking at their motive, methods, and tactics. In my opinion, their economic "war" against the US and other countries is real. That's how China always operates. They want to have great influence on other countries through economic means and thus winning without firing a bullet.

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