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23 April 2020

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turcopolier

EO et al

A lot of you do not understand the mentality of navy captains. They will defend their ships at all cost if they are allowed to do so and now they are allowed to do so. The Cole? She was at anchor in Aden port when just this kind of behavior suddenly became a deadly attack. Her former CO is now a pathetic figure who appears from time to time on 24/7 news.

turcopolier

A.I.S.

Are you "b?" You sound like him. Try to overcome your night terrors. Stiff upper lip, etc. BTW. I was a participant in the Iran-Iraq War.

turcopolier

Leith

You want to shoot at coxswains of Iranian boats with rifles? You don't seem tp understand that what you want to do in this situation is to make the result of their aggressive behavior so bad that it serves as a disincentive. The IRGC may be Islamic fanatics, but all God's chillun don't want to go home on any particular day.

Norbert M Salamon

Colonel:
You, Sir, are correct: silkworm of 1980 is old rather useless missile.

Unfortunately [for USN] Iran possesses sunburn missiles, which are most lethal in the confines of the Persian Gulf. Such missiles will persuade US officers to decline finding any Iranian harassment of their ships - assisted suicide is not career advancement

Leith

turcopolier -

If you want to send a hard message that will make them take notice, then put some five-inch shells on the Kharg Island speedboat base. Why swat at individual bees in a swarm when you can take out the nest?

Those harassing speedboats are just flimsy fiberglass. Don't waste resources on them. Maybe they are just putting on a show in order to jack up the price of crude oil? Trump may be doing the same with his shoot-them-down tweet?

egl

"No, burning wreckage is what I want to see." Giving the neocons exactly what they want?

turcopolier

egl

Giving the Iranians what they do not want. Giving the neocons what they want is not always a bad thing. A naval combat does not have the geopolitical impact for us that a land war would have. At the same time we should get out of Syria and Iraq.

Leith

Norbert Salamon -

There are valid defenses against missiles like the 'Sunburn' that use active radar homing during terminal guidance. They are low-flying sea skimmers and hard to detect so you would need a tipoff to know they are incoming. The tipoff assets would surely be on alert.

I'd be interested in what Tidewater or Andy or other former Navy men who have commented here in the past have to say on the Sunburn, and on Trump's tweet in general?

ked

“ Trump's nonsense implying that if they don't do what he likes he will remove them is without factual basis. “
He was probably being sarcastic.

turcopolier

ked

That could be but it is still dangerous nonsense.

Anon

Vegetius

The boats are activating the ships electronic defence systems,iranian and co. land based eavesdropping systems are tracking the responses.
The attack will start first with an electrical surge from land based chip fryers,similar to the ones you

Vegetius

English Outsider what you say makes sense. But I do not trust the men around Trump about as far as I can throw a Boston Whaler.

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