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19 March 2020

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turcopolier

TTG

Can you assure me that Biden will …?

The Twisted Genius

Not at all. Old Joe is a gaffe machine, not a genius. But with this endorsement, I do see a Biden-Gabbard ticket as a possibility.

Barbara Ann

Wouldn't this open Biden to the obvious attack of "Vote Biden, get Tulsi"?

I like her and her FP stance in particular, but the media has already shown how willing they are to build the narrative of the unelectable "Assadist" candidate and so on. It sure would be interesting to see how this changed if she does get on the ticket with the blessing of the Dem establishment.

Trump's campaign will major on Biden's ailing faculties and the almost certainty that early in his term he'll have to take the 25th. Then there is the virus factor. He needs the Veep pick to be (relatively) uncontroversial IMO.

Kassandra

This would be too good to become true. Anyway, wonders happen sometimes.

EEngineer

She knows how to play the long game.

notlurking

No way in hell will he pick her as a Vice Presidential mate...the party machine abhor's her...why do you think Sanders was destroyed...anything progressive is a no no...

turcopolier

notlurking

We are waiting for her with open arms in the GOP where she can start a revival of the Rockefeller wing.

turcopolier

TTG

Can you assure me that Biden will drop dead?

JamesT

Bernie is in deep trouble. It is, unfortunately, the smart move.

rho

I think it is near impossible that Biden would pick her as VP, despite this strange endorsement. The Democrat establishment and the borg fiercely oppose her, and with Biden as President and the coronavirus around, there is a real chance this time that a VP pick will have to take over power from a dead or otherwise incapacitated President.

The move does not make much sense to me except as an "I surrender, at least for this election cycle" message, I don't see Tulsi gaining any material benefit from this over endorsing Sanders. The establishment will not suddenly start to like her again because of this.

I also seriously doubt this assessment of Tulsi about Biden:

"I know that he has a good heart and is motivated by his love for our country and the American people."

JerseyJeffersonian

Disappointed, but not surprised.

But, unless something has changed of which I am not aware, Warren closed down her campaign without endorsing anyone. Why not Gabbard? Not impressed by this move.

Maybe she thinks this is, as eenginneer proposed above, playing the long game. I don't see how that works, unless abject surrender on essentials (such as the willingness to contest the war/regime change ploy amply on display with Biden & ilk) makes an impression on The Blob that she can be relied upon to do likewise if she ever is entrusted with executive powers. But infliction of such horrors as those brought about by the dismemberment of Libya are scarcely indications of Biden having a good heart (or even a foresightful nature concerning consequences).

What the US needs is an end to these abjectly stupid actions, not a new lease on life for them. So, the more I think on this, and in consideration of her previously professing a principled stand in this issue, this is a deal-breaker for me, fully as bad as Sanders' actively working for the Hildabeast's election in 2016, making me question her sincerity in general.

It is past time to put the kibosh on the imperial fantasy; stand up and be counted or slink away.

ex PFC Chuck

Mystifying and dispiriting. Maybe "they" finally got something on her. Alternatively, did she get any sort of contentment out of Joe in return? If she did will he be able to/want to remember it come November 4? There's no chance the "organs" sector of the deep state would take Tulsi-as-Veep lying down. Or any significant foreign policy or national security position for that matter. She may think by endorsing Biden She'd at least partway move back into the good graces of the Democratic Party establishment, but that's a false hope. They'll never trust her again. If she'd kept her endorsement powder dry, even though she'd get no MSM coverage going forward (not the vanishingly small amount she got as a candidate), more than a few of the non-MSM platforms, video and otherwise, that have in some cases millions of readers and viewers, would have been happy to have her on frequently. She'll still get some of that exposure but not much. She may get some MSM stops in the next few days, but that will be it.

Jose

IMHO, Kamela Harris, Stacy Abrams, or Susan Rice.

Leith

Biden says: "Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line in service of this country and continues to serve with honor today. I’m grateful to have her support and look forward to working with her to restore honor and decency to the White House."

Hmm?

optimax

Tulsi would bring in some republicans but Biden won't choose because he's a puppet of the borg and they thrive on the chaos created by our military interventions. The LSMFT community doesn't like Tulsi for the unforgivable sin of speaking out against gay marriage as a teen--she wasn't born with the progressive purity of heart. Then there's Assad. The media ignored her visit with the orthodox priest in Aleppo who after its recapture by the SAA praised Assad for saving them from the jahadis. The feminists resent Tulsi for being pretty.

All these groups prefer Lady Macbeth be the one to catch Joe when he falls.

akaPatience

I agree that she would be a long shot pick for VP. Biden can take HI for granted so aside from her gender, Rep. Gabbard doesn't bring anything extra to the ticket on that important score. Sen. Warren didn't win her home state of MA which is a strike against her, but MA will also go for Biden anyway. Sen. Harris is a woman of color, earning her 2 Identity Politics points. But like the others, Biden can take CA for granted. Nevertheless she may be in the running because of her ethnicity.

My guess is that Sen. Klobuchar will be the pick, as she would likely deliver MN which, until we were beset by the pandemic panic, was possibly in play for Trump. Interestingly though it's thought that, like Warren, Klobuchar was poised to lose her home state race and that's a big reason why she dropped out right before the primary was held.

There aren't many pols who dare to advocate for much less military spending and more for "quality of life" type expenditures, so I've admired Rep. Gabbard for her stance in that respect. But heaven forbid, such a political position is treated like outright heresy. Along with bravely bucking FP orthodoxy, she's a pariah in her own party because of it. I'm sure a lot of you have already read today that her brother said she wanted to endorse Sanders BUT HE WOULDN'T ACCEPT! If this is true, it's like Gabbard's radioactive or something. I just don't get it.

Jack

My swag is Obama picks either Kamala or Amy. He is running the show for Team Biden.

Leith

Biden does not need Kamala to win California. And probably does not need Amy to win Minnesota.

Gretchen Whitmer, Governor of Michigan? She is a moderate like Joe, a former prosecutor, won the governorship by a ten point margin. And Michigan has 16 electoral votes.

Michelle Lujan, Governor of New Mexico? A good choice to get the latino vote. But only five electoral votes.

Tulsi for UN Ambassador.

Silentd78909988

This is not going to happen. The Dem establishment really hated 2 candidates - Bernie and Tulsi. The liberal press have mostly ignored her.

The twitter blue ticks have spouted a lot bile. I'm not sure why - it wasn't just Israel Firsters. Maybe they suspect she is not onboard for open borders and is secretly socially conservative?

She was easily the best person in the field, but the DNC &co would rather lose to Trump than see her in the White House.

John Merryman.

She would qualify as a "woman of color."

JJackson

I suspect the DNC and associated party grandees looked at the COVID situation and leant heavily on candidates to back the front runner, so avoiding having their supporters congregate at rallies or a brokered convention. That the front runner happened to be who they wanted to see as their candidate surely helped.

Joseph Chaisson

I saw this morning that Tulsi's brother posted on facebook that Bernie declined her offer of endorsement...

The Twisted Genius

Joseph Chaisson,

I saw that yesterday. I don't know who Kai Gabbard was responding to and he has since removed that Facebook comment. He also admitted he doesn't know the exact nature of his sister's relationship with Sanders. Here's his original comment.

“Thank you for your kind words sir,” the comment reads. “Bernie has treated my sister like sh*t all the way through this. She has tried to endorse him again and he has refused her support. Whoever he’s getting his advice from has done a terrible job.”
“You go ahead keep talking about however you want, but know this. She is just going to continue being independent and keep fighting for us. Bernie isn’t the man me and Tulsi once supported 100 percent. I don’t know what happened to him. He’s refused to take the fight to the establishment like Tulsi continues to do. Aloha to you and yours.”

Who knows what happened between Bernie and Tulsi. Like I said, I was surprised she endorsed old Joe over old Bernie. She's pragmatic and independent. She has demonstrated an ability to work in a bipartisan manner without demonizing anyone. We need a lot more like her.

I'm also partial to the aloha spirit. I thoroughly enjoyed my three and a half years in Hawaii. For two of those years I spent a long weekend every month with C Company, 1/299th Infantry on Maui. I spent another year working fairly closely with the local pig hunters and pakalolo growers in the mountains surrounding my RECONDO school in the Kahuku Mountains. I experienced aloha and ohana rather than anti-haoli discrimination. If Tulsi can bring that spirit to the rest of the US, I'm all for it.

Stueeeeee

Gabbard endorsement doesn't surprise me. Her claim to fame is that she speaks truthfully about our mideast adventures...and? Her domestic politics mirror the growing dingbat coalition. I would say that she is a poor man's Ron Paul but that wouldn't be fair to Ron.
He had the integrity not to endorse the detestable Pierre Delecto.

Jim S

'Hairy-Legs' Joe: I'm excited to present my running mate, Tally Gourd- What? No- Gabby Ward- I mean the next Vice Governor of the United States, Wally Gizzard!

Interestingly, the CFR membership rolls contain a one Gabbard, Tulsi; no Obiden Bama, however.

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