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30 December 2019

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Factotum

Does this both massive and petty US surveillance possibly explain why one gets the dreaded SSSS marking on their airline boarding pass. After spending a few years online, trash talking Obama on a counter-culture website?

akaPatience

AMEN. I used to think since I didn't have anything to hide or be ashamed of, the extent of spying would never have an effect on my life. WRONG. Now that we know political POVs and affiliations can make us targets, and that the IC can and will fabricate predicates to ruin our lives, possibly resulting in incarceration or bankruptcy, no one can feel truly safe. As it is, votes for Trump in the 2016 presidential election have been under constant threat from the attempts to nullify the results, in part by using the IC's tools of the trade.

The increasing extent of Political Correctness and misplaced blame is nearly just as bad, as freedom of speech, freedom of association, and other ostensible freedoms are gradually being eroded. PC has been weaponized, and lives, reputations and businesses can quickly be ruined if targeted. Just ask the Covington Catholic school boys who were minding their own business, waiting for their rides in front of the Lincoln Memorial in DC earlier this year.

Upstate NY'er

Larry:
I just cannot work up much fear of this army of incompetents.
The whole attempted soft coup by the Feebs and the CIA reeks as much of Inspector Clouseau as treason.
I have greater concern about the Chinese, Iranians, etc. because of the rampant ineptness of these (hilariously misnamed) "intelligence" agencies.

Sbin

As someone that started in military encryption/communication the entered cellular industry in 86 I have an interesting perspective.

Sbin

Early analog cellular required a warrant for a tap to be placed but test modes in equipment allowed very technically adept to use care phones are listening devices

vig

thanks.

Now of course we are dealing with the possibly more easy to find needle in the haystack? What to do? Carry a gun. Since the hillariously misnamed "intelligence agencies" cannot protect us?

Sbin

With the implementation of CALEA law enforcement could set their own tap/traps.
I mirrored the output of those units and noticed a massive increase in government intrusion.

Paul Damascene

Larry,
Appreciate the reflection but the Republic may be beyond saving.
As K Strassel of the WSJ asks, where were the FISC and their judges when Nunez sent his memo, which the IG report has borne out? Not just the FISC judges but evidently the rot has set in deep across the judiciary, if Emmet Sullivan's latest is any indication.

And here is at least one source that suggests the FBI may be beyond redemption.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/12/22/the-fbis-darkest-hour/

Factotum

Linked article underscores the role the Crowdstrike "conclusion" could well have played. Crowdstrike uncorroborated conclusions "the Russians did it" added the necessary gravitas pivotal to this entire Brennan-Clapper-Comey Spygate operation on the Trump campaign. Would their hypothetical case against Trump hold, absent the Crowdstrike input?

Artemesia

Whatever US intelligence agencies know, Israel and ADL know.

Paul Damascene

Factotum,
No I would think it wouldn't, or at least another pretext would have had to be invented.

Harlan Easley

There is no "democracy" in America when it comes to these issues.

bjd

Iran and China are just minding their own business, and have for centuries and millennia.
If you fear them, you are deluded.

Upstate NY'er

Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons and China is building out all of their military branches - especially a blue water navy.
These are not the acts of minding their own business.

Larry Johnson

So, by your logic, the U.S. is the biggest threat. True? We're spending far more on building out all of our military branches than is China and Iran combined. And we continue to build bigger, "better" nukes. Or are you saying because we're Americans we can pretend that other countries count these acts by us as of no consequence.

Fourth and Long

Larry,

Don't know if you've seen these notes on his new book -- Matt Taibbi:


https://taibbi.substack.com/p/note-on-a-new-book

As he indicates it's far worse than the truth you present and has been since Cheney reconstructed the illegal secrecy state not long after Nixon was ousted.
It's so bad that even a US president can't find out what tools are being used on him even were he more experienced and knowledgeable than Trump. We can elect presidents till the cows come home but the outcome is "so what?"
Keep up the good work and Happy 2020.

Fred

Upstate,

You mean LTC Vindman didn't sign the naval construction permission slip? It is his office that tells the foreigners what they can do isn't it? Or did that sovereign nation not need to do that?

catherine

Can someone here explain this to me? Where exactly is the US going to deploy these 2 new Iron Domes? I doubt its in the US,so where....in another ME country/war or is this just a cover to give 2 more to Israel? I don't understand it.


https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr3186/text/ih

Congress Bills H.R. 3186 (116th)Text

H.R. 3186: U.S.-Israel Indirect Fire Protection Act of 2019
(4)The United States has provided more than $1,400,000,000 to Israel for Iron Dome batteries, coproduction costs, and general maintenance.
(12)At an April 2, 2019, hearing by the Committee on Armed Services of the House of Representatives, the Chief of Staff of the Army General Mark Milley stated, The Iron Dome is a very capable system. It has basically a 100 percent track record in combat. We clearly need it to protect our formations, and we are buying the two batteries..

Diana C

It's a sad and frightening state of affairs. Big Brother lives. 1984 and Brave New World are no longer fiction.

It's pretty frightening to those of us who have grandchildren. What kind of world will they inhabit as adults?

It's New Year's Eve. What sort of changes will 2020 bring to our politics and to our government agencies? (For some reason, I am not hopeful that the changes will be good ones.)

English Outsider


Outsider's view - in this case an outsider to the security world you are discussing - the States are the only place where this stuff gets opened up at all. The Germans and the French have it all locked down tight, Lord knows what the Dutch get up to, and in the UK we have to read the US press to have any idea of what our lot have been brewing up.

Lucky old USA. Well, sort of.

Alex

Recently the Wall Street Journal published an article by Francis Fukuyama in which he stated the need for the deep state! He said we needed a permanent culture that is not bound by political ideology, I kid you not, that can keep the U.S. on an even keel and operate smoothly without political rancor. Should I quit WSJ?

Fourth and Long

No. Just don't read the editorial section. (Kidding).
There's a strange old mystical book of wisdom - a fairly silly book actually that I discovered while researching my "roots" which I won't go into except to say that it's main point is that without secrecy the world could not exist. If you've raised kids you already know that, of course. It's pathetically self evident if you think about it. So extrapolate and maybe give the devil his due. But don't forget to mind the minders. My new years hat off to Colonel Lang, TTG, Larry Johnson and company.

Factotum

Wikipedia has a particularly snarky and most likely partisan entry for (against) Jared Kushner. In which one finds the following quote -was this Brennan's hair on fire cause celebre that required the highly sensitive spying on the Trump team, particularly it was intended to gain access to Jared Kushner?

WIKIPEDIA - JARED KUSHNER - partisan hit team Wiki entry? Considering Team Mueller found no nefarious "Russian" connections with the Trump campaign years and millions of dollars later.

......Between April and November 2016, Kushner had two undisclosed phone calls with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak.[121]

(In May 2017, Kushner's attorney Jamie Gorelick told Reuters that Kushner had participated in "thousands of calls in this time period" and did not recall any with Kislyak.[121])

In December 2016, Kushner met with Kislyak.[122] That month, U.S. intelligence officials who were monitoring Kislyak reportedly overheard him relaying to Moscow a request from Kushner to establish a "secret and secure communications channel" with the Kremlin using Russian diplomatic facilities.

Kislyak reportedly was "taken aback by the suggestion of allowing an American to use Russian communications gear at its embassy or consulate – a proposal that would have carried security risks for Moscow as well as the Trump team".[123][124]

Also in December 2016, Kushner met with Sergey N. Gorkov, a trained Russian spy who then headed Vnesheconombank (VEB), a Russian state-owned bank.[122][125][126]

How did Mueller miss what WIKIPEDIA still loves to push in broad daylight about this obvious (Russian double agent) Mr. Kushner. I want part of that $29 million dollar Mueller investigation back. (!)

PS- who exactly writes thses WIKI entries?

Petrus_viatorem

And Putin — who has formed very strong relations with both China and Iran — as well as forming an ostensibly strong eye-to-eye with Trump… he’s just going to sit on the sidelines, without anything to say about any of this? What’s missing from your narrative?

RICHARD A FEIBEL

""WE WERE WARNED!! BUT NO ONE LISTENED""! WHAT DID YOU EXPECT FROM A NATION OF UNEDUCATED; ARROGANTLY IGNORANT; SELF CENTERED; SELFISH ;UNCARING ;OVER FED; OVER ENTERTAINED ;UNDER FATHERED ONE PARENT PERSONS WHO RUDELY EXPRESS THIS DESCRIPTION..TO BAD YOU DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THE LATER PROVEN FACT!!AND NOT JUST THE BLACK OR HISPANIC'S! SOCIETY AS IT EXIST TODAY IS MOMENTS AWAY FROM BEING COMPLETELY ENSLAVED .AND ITS NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH AMERICA. THE SO CALLED DEEP STATE IS WORLDWIDE AND HAS BEEN IN THE WORKINGS FOR CENTURIES POTUS TRUMP IS THE LAST POTUS NEED TO FINISH THIS CABAL.THE STEVE BANNON MONSTERS ARE LOSE UPON THE WORLD SPEWING THEIR CABALS DEMONISM! IF YOU LISTEN TO BANNON HE SOUNDS AS AN INSANE PERSON SOUNDS !"THE DANCE IS OVER AND THE BANDS GONE HOME"!!!SIC SEMPRE TYRANNUS!!!!

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