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16 November 2019

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turcopolier

longarch
"where do we even begin to lead people back to the Constitution?" Here. BTW You might want to mention to your interlocutors that without the constitution people like me will do with them whatever we please.

turcopolier

b

A lot of the people in intelligence work are left of center and ARE outraged by Trump. People come and go in the intelligence business. There are a lot of alumni. This is interesting but I don't think you have made a convincing case for an attempted CIA takeover of the Congress

turcopolier

TonyL

Is it an article of faith that the economy is not booming? The numbers all seem to say that you are wrong.

Eric Newhill

Jack,
What do you mean? They're all in it because they care about you and the country. Just ask them.

Trump seems to understand that he has a mandate from the people that he must fulfill if he wants to be a great president and being a great president is what his ego desires. He seems to understand that his supporters only back him as long as he is accomplishing what they want.

Too many other elected reps don't get it. They screw around and enrich themselves (Like the Bidens and Clintons) and somehow they and their media pals fool the people into voting for them again and again despite the lack
of meaningful and tangible public achievements. That's not what I'm talking about with "self-interest". I mean knowing that you do what you say you're going to do or you get promptly voted out.

The last thing we need is holly roller on a mission from God to guide the deplorable heathens type virtue crusaders in office.

Eric Newhill

EO,
Zelensky did not like her and suggested that she was involved with corrupt people and undermining the President. I don't understand how Trump gets all of the blame for her being relieved of her position.

Bobo

Educate you have and Educate you will till your six feet under.

J

Colonel, Larry,

Take a look at former DCI Petraeus latest involvement. Makes me wonder if Brennan and crew will be seeking these type passports to avoid prison.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/news/london-ballroom-hosts-showcase-event-for-golden-passports/ar-BBWQzbr?li=BBr5Fap

turcopolier

All

I may have spoken too soon about Marie's preferences. There is a photo of her participating in a Gay Pride parade in Kiev in 2018. You can find it on my FB page (Pat Lang)

Jack

There were many instances of fraud. Create a turd instrument designed to fail. Misrepresent its characteristics and sell to the public while shorting it yourself. Many violations of securities laws. There were also several cases of market manipulation as well as money laundering. To quote Obama AG Holder: “I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult to prosecute them,” Holder said. He said he was “inhibited” by the fact that a criminal charge could have a negative impact on the U.S. and possibly world economy.

If capitalism is so good, why didn’t that apply to all the Wall St “banks”? Why was socialism required to bail them out? Why did we get privatization of speculative profits and socialization of losses? I’m sure many working class Americans would love the same thing - speculate in financial instruments and keep the gains while passing on the losses to the neighbors.

divadab

Well he is a socialist, not a private sector guy. If everyone were a capitalist it would be a pretty ruthless world, doncha think?

Yes he made money in real estate - who hasn't? And he wrote a book that garnered him a couple million - good for him , say I. In your mind this is a bad thing?

And if you want to know what he has done for Vermont take a walk around Burlington - it's a walkable, livable city NOT an over-condoed mess like so many cities run of by and for developers.

And if you think Vermont is run by "left wing transplants and their spawn" you obviously have never been there.

Finally, in just about every poll, Sanders beats Trump, which the execrable Hillary Clinton demonstrably did not even before she lost with her incompetent 2016 campaign.

divadab

@factotum - everything you say about SSI, Medicare, and medicaid is more true about the military-industrial complex. Talk about a third rail.

The difference is that SSI, Medicare and medicaid actually benefit ALL citizens, unlike the MIC, which benefits a small well-connected oligarchy.

We can see which side you are on.

divadab

Well, yes, job preservation and makework are major components of government spending. This is true in all governments. But the corruption of the political side of the US government is systematic and really on a scale that doesn;t exist in other advanced economies. Maybe Brazil or Congo are as corrupt but they just don;t have the same number of dollars to siphon off.

Jack

That’s precisely the point. Mobility has declined as concentration has increased. We had great mobility as the share of income and wealth for the bottom 80% kept growing post Depression until the 70s/80s, when it started to reverse. While correlation is not causation, there are two strongly correlated trends. Growth in market concentration and growth in total credit market debt.

Jonathan Tepper’s well researched book shows in much detail industry after industry how we’ve seen incredible concentration in market power over the past 30 years. Take agriculture for example and look at the shrinkage in the number of companies in the market for seeds, fertilizer, other inputs and also the shrinkage in the number of companies in the processing end. Take that across every major industry group from media to hospital systems, you will see rising market power concentration. Competition is the heart of a market based system when that shrinks into cartels & monopoly then you get oligarchy and the growing symbiotic relationship between big business and big government with concentration of both market and political power. Its not that we don’t already have the laws to prevent such concentration. Robinson-Patman and other laws were enacted precisely to have competitive markets. So was the creation of the FTC. But with the revolving door we have the fox in charge of the hen house and that is one parable of our times.

akaPatience

Here is a video title on Real Clear Politics with the truly ironic quote:

Yovanovitch Opening Statement: I Was Victim Of "A Campaign Of Disinformation" Using "Unofficial Back Channels"

Well gosh, to me that sounds just like what's happening to Trump. Plus, his friends, family and associates are constantly vilified, some even nearly bankrupted and imprisoned for stupid process crimes.

I always disliked Donald Trump. His pugnacity still bothers me at times but as The Resistance persists, so does my sympathy and appreciation grow for him and his pugnacity. Yes, believe it or not some people sympathize with what the POTUS has had to endure. As for Marie, I'm sorry but she can cry me a river.

jonst

I apologize to the Committee up front for not having time to read all the comments in this thread,so what i am about to write might have been covered above. I was particular struck by one common theme, or perceived theme, anyway, by me, in all three Foreign service witnesses' testimony. To wit, the juxtaposition of their professed intimate knowledge of almost all things Ukrainian, v. their, collective, acute, lack of knowledge about the players and alleged actions of possible Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 election. The lawyer in me says I would like to create a PPT highlighting the areas of testimony where they could NOT answer questions relating to the Ukraine. I think you would see a pattern. Namely, a lack of interest in certain subjects. It struck me as an odd blind spot.

Eric Newhill

ISL,
As far as I can see, based on her official page, Tulsi just supports the same Medicare for All that the other math and economics challenged lefties do. So not sure what you're talking about.

As I keep saying she has Trump's FP and Bernie's domestic platform. That's all there is to her as a politician.

She is alluring - seductive actually - as a woman, though.

srw

Fred
Can you prove that Harvard hired her because of her minor native American ancestry?

Factotum

Ah yes, "low income people" can barely make ends meet. Recent story about a university student complaining his monthly EBT card was running out after only a few weeks of buying $5 meal replacement drinks at Trader Joe's. Less money for tattoos and cell phone plans - that is a real bummer too. But nothing like demanding to live in a high cost coastal California area and then complaining the rents are "unaffordable".

Current taxpayer supported social safety net provides approximately $45,000 worth of goods and services for "low income people". I recommend they also stay away from nearby Indian casinos so they hold on to more of their own discretionary cash. We provide free community college in this state to "low income people" with the sole purpose to upgrade their own support skills.

"Low income people" barely making ends meet does not automatically generate sympathy in today's handout world. Careful budgeting and resourceful discipline garner respect- unsupported and continuing demands for even more "free stuff", are falling on deaf ears.

Ishmael Zechariah

Colonel,
I can guess. Met many. Tough guys all. Here is a good link. Best one is the last but one.
http://willieandjoe.tripod.com/remf.htm
Ishmael Zechariah

Fred

srw,

Sure, the non fake news Boston Globe reported she claimed that heritage three years after getting hired. Certainly no benefits to her or Harvard for a minority employee. So there, gotcha, it was after she was hired. Perhaps the records are actually public, rather than just news reporter verified.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/09/01/did-claiming-native-american-heritage-actually-help-elizabeth-warren-get-ahead-but-complicated/wUZZcrKKEOUv5Spnb7IO0K/story.html

Fred

BP,


How's employment doing? Immigration still keeping wages low?

Fred

Factotum,

The establishment Republicans defeated by Trump were essentially dem-light. "They couldn't even conserve the girls bathroom" as one wag put it. Just lable them racist or antisemitic and they would melt faster than a snowball on a Florida beach. That's a tactic the left has used for decades now. It's not working with Trump.

Factotum

She has some bad habits, for a secular nun.

Factotum

M-I-C is primarily a wealth transfer system that benefits the Democrat defense industry unions.

Spending money on a strong military presence benefits us all. I'll pay to be the "world's policeman" as well, since I can't think of anyone else who could do the job for us.

Data to support the return value of our current US health care system, for dollars spent, is missing. Hence i do support we start data-mining US health care records, in order to determine best practices and continue to seek evidence-based medical practices.

That should help you see what side I am on too.

Factotum

Who forces anyone to buy anything in a free market? Caveat emptor.

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