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08 October 2019

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ex PFC Chuck

A book very much worth the time to anyone interested in looking into this further is In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality and Hypocrisy, by Frederic Martel. I haven't read the Strategic Culture piece yet, but based on the excerpt above it's in line with Marte's book, albeit the latter has a different emphasis.

Athayde_a

As seen from Portugal, Francisco I is being attacked by a so-called conservative group with strong ties to Money and to the US.

Since there is a lot of smoke it is difficult to see what is happening.

But two things seem to be guaranteed: This conservative group wants neither Married Priests nor a Concordat with Continental China.

Fred

Always interesting news here. Steve Bannon got fired by Trump. After that he was a guest of Jeffrey Epstein, staying at his home in Paris. Looks like one more person shed no tears when those fine federal agents slept through the night at the NYMCC.
“Bannon needs money to bankroll his political agenda. Epstein has plenty of money, and craves power and access,” a source said.
https://nypost.com/2019/09/27/epsteins-butler-dishes-on-paris-pad-guests-including-bill-gates-steve-bannon/

Vig

I noticed he popped up on Strategic Culture.

how did he get there? Otherwise obviously I do not have the least idea what axe he had to grind about two decades earlier.

David Lentini

My sense is that the Holy Father is losing allies in the Vatican and beyond, and sadly is using his own surrogates in the press to make straw-man attacks against those who are considered "traditional" and oppose the Pope's globalist agenda. I find the timing of this article especially intersting now that the Pope has been pushing his "Amazon Synod" and an agend that concerns many in the Church.

The Twisted Genius

Pope Francis elevated 13 new cardinals last week, all in his image I believe. This is interesting, indeed. I will be reading more on this and how the Synod for the Amazon is proceeding.

turcopolier

Elora Danon

What is your definition of "fascist?"

turcopolier

Elora Danon

So far as I know EOHS has no position in such matters. In any event I always make my own positions.

turcopolier

Elora Danan

That's nice but there has been no abandonment of Democratic freedoms under Trump. It is the Democrats in the House who seek to expel an elected president in what amounts to a kangaroo court. You should be on Trump's side.

turcopolier

Elora Danan

I did not know there were still Spanish leftists (if that is really what you are) who yearn for the good old days of Republican anti-clericalism. Did your family hang priests and nuns? The EOHS has no "meetings" in which we plot for the reversal of the "Enlightenment." We raise money for the support of the Roman Church in the Holy Land, a lot of money. Seminary, Bethlehem University,(mostly Muslim students), the care of the Basilica of the Holy Sepulchre. You know that place. It is where the "legend" of Jesus was buried, creches (a French word). BTW most of the children are little ones abandoned by their Muslim parents, old folks homes (mostly Muslim residents). Understand that I am just stringing you along to elicit your responses until I ban you again.

Vig

... and oppose the Pope's globalist agenda
curious statement.

At what point exactly did the Catholic Church become globalists? During Apostolic Ages or later during the crusades?

But glad to hear Bannon has to look for another monestary for his international nationalist activists training camp. ...

Flavius

Meaningless twaddle that fits squarely within Orwell's updated definition of what calling someone a 'communist' or a 'fascist' had come to mean: a political pejorative the holder employs to signal his antipathy.

Lars

There may not have been an abandonment of democratic freedoms, but there has been degrading. As in voter suppression and allowing foreign interference. Of course, now we can add refusing to answer lawful subpoenas. The list may very well expand, as we move on with a established constitutional function.

turcopolier

flavius

I disagree. Those who think the state should own the means of production and distribution are "communists." Ask Stephen Cohen. I heard him say that from the stage of the Armed Forces Staff College many years ago.

turcopolier

Lars

Seeking to ensure that voters are qualified is not "voter suppression." Aliens and those who refuse to provide proper identification should not vote. To want them to vote is a Democratic Party goal so as to obtain power, nothing else. There is no proof whatever of effective foreign interference in 2016. None.

Fred

Lars,

You mean those colleges banning speakers, refusing to allow accused to see evidence presented in secret or have legal representation present were all done by the federal government? Which nonexistent voter suppression are you referring to? Which lawful subpoena?

I agree with you on holding those foreigners, Christopher Steele and Joseph Misfud, to account for their interference in our election. They and the people who paid them have some explaining, under oath and in public, to do.

Bob L

Sedevacantists should read St. Ignatius Loyola, ‘Rules of Thinking with the Church’.

“Thirteenth Rule. To be right in everything, we ought always to hold that the white which I see, is black, if the Hierarchical Church so decides it, believing that between Christ our Lord, the Bridegroom, and the Church, His Bride, there is the same Spirit which governs and directs us for the salvation of our souls. Because by the same Spirit and our Lord Who gave the ten Commandments, our holy Mother the Church is directed and governed.”

Diana C

Since I am not Catholic, I can not express an opinion about this question. I am just sad that it is a controversy, as I am sad when any Protestant denomination is experiencing turmoil. I do remember when Pope Francis was first chosen, how excited many were because he came from our part of the world. I think many felt he would be a voice for the poor.

I do want to recommend a book about the very early formation of the Church:

Jesus Wars: How Four Patriarchs, Three Queens, and Two Emperors Decided What Christians Would Believe for the Next 1,500 Years
Book by Philip Jenkins

I thought it was extremely interesting .

Raven


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GOP-led panel endorses finding that Russia interfered to help Donald Trump

Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C., right, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.. (Jacquelyn Martin/AP)
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Tony RommOctober 8 at 2:45 PM
A bipartisan panel of U.S. senators Tuesday called for sweeping action by Congress, the White House and Silicon Valley to ensure social media sites aren’t used to interfere in the coming presidential election, delivering a sobering assessment about the weaknesses that Russian operatives exploited in the 2016 campaign.

The Senate Intelligence Committee, a Republican-led panel that has been investigating foreign electoral interference for more than 2½ years, said in blunt language that Russians worked to damage Democrat Hillary Clinton while bolstering Republican Donald Trump — and made clear that fresh rounds of interference are likely ahead of the 2020 vote.

“Russia is waging an information warfare campaign against the U.S. that didn’t start and didn’t end with the 2016 election,” said Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the committee’s chairman. “Their goal is broader: to sow societal discord and erode public confidence in the machinery of government. By flooding social media with false reports, conspiracy theories, and trolls, and by exploiting existing divisions, Russia is trying to breed distrust of our democratic institutions and our fellow Americans.”

Babak Makkinejad

You cannot take these sets of incoherent sentences seriously. "Democratic Freedoms"? Are there also such things as "un-democratic", "anti-democratic", "non-democratic" freedoms too? And "Redemptive violence" as of Redemption in Christ? This is a mish- mash.

Babak Makkinejad

They are too polite to openly state their atheism in Madrid; they are all agnostics. Until the time comes to send their children to school. That is when they regret openly the absence of a nearby Jesuit scool, forcing them to send their kids to be educated by the Dominicans.

Athayde_a

You must put this statement in his proper historical context.

Ignatius of Loyola was a basque warrior that lived between circa  23 October 1491 and 31 July 1556.

Martin Luther lived between 10 November 1483 and 18 February 1546

John Calvin lived between 10 July 1509 and 27 May 1564.

Out of proper historical context statements are meaningless.

Paco

Just as priests and nuns were hanged, after a military rebellion against a democratically elected government, there were priests that blessed executions of people that may or may not have hung priests and nuns. In any case blessing executions and firing squads does not add any glory to the name of God, which should be number one priority for any catholic. AMGD

Richard Ong

That last part about abandoning democratic freedoms, etc. precisely defines American progressives and our political elite, not that there's much difference between the two. AntiFa is their enforcememt contingent.

People who complain about "fascism" seem to believe that majority populations have no right to fight back against leftist betrayal. "Purity" is derided because endless, mindless, destructive change is the True Sacrament.

Richard Ong

Anything by Philip Jenkins is bound to be interesting.

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