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26 September 2019

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Christian J Chuba

I felt bad for Zelensky after they made the call public, he was obviously trying to fill his beggar's bowl, 'please give us Javelin missiles'. I get that he doesn't have a lot of options.

It got me thinking. This is ONE random conversation made public. Can you imagine the begging, pleading, and possibly even crying that has been done over the years in order to curry favor with our Presidents over the years? It must be quite the spectacle. This could be at least a contributing factor as to why we hate Iran so much, those people are just too proud, bow down already; end your defiance.

Patrick Armstrong

Good point. And why everybody else hates the USA so much.

Lyttennburgh

>TRUMP-ZELENSKY PHONE CALL.

...got me some "Vovan&Lexus" wibes, when they pranked Poroshenko into thinking that he's talking to some US/Western top honchose, and every second word by him was "Дякую/Thank you", which earned him a nickname "Count Dyakula". Well, it turns out that (Va)Zelensky so far is just Poroshenko 2.0. I mean, bringing a bullet before the UN's (3/4 empty) General Assmebly and telling a tearful story about "operat singer", that died in the ATO, while accussing Russia of waging a war - that's pathetic.

Ukrainian word of the week - "пластувание".

Patrick Armstrong

Poor old Z. Porky & Co were 150% for Hillary then, when that thundered in, tried to suck up to Trump who wasn't listening and doesn't care. Z doesn't know what to do. So cut him some slack.

Lyttennburgh

>Z doesn't know what to do.

He declared for Trump - at the expense of the EU (see his less than polite comments regarding Macron and Mercel in the transcript).

Now, the real question - will we see the "transcript rap battle of the century"? Because what if someone do reveal the transcript of a phone call between Biden and then UkrPM Yatsenyuk.

Peter AU 1

A very basic summary of the call was placed on president of Ukraine website on the day of the call.
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/volodimir-zelenskij-proviv-telefonnu-rozmovu-z-prezidentom-s-56617

From the Shoigu link .. " Today, the army is no longer the "sick man" of Russian society and not the subject of scathing ridicule of foreigners. Today the Russian army has regained respect on the part of friends, and potential and real enemies."

Shoigu goes on to list the achievements that regained respect. Weapons and weapons systems, lifting of moral and better training, and their combat achievements.
For me, I think their performance in Syria was the greatest contributor to regaining respect.

Trump also believed he had to rebuild the US military and US nuclear forces to regain the respect of the world. I have found a number of interviews from the election campaign period in which he states this. This is one.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/us/politics/donald-trump-transcript.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur

Trump in his recent UN speech stated how he had rebuilt the US military and nuclear forces and US military was by far the most powerful military in the world.
The respect still has to be earned though. iran does not seem to be showing much respect.
In several of the early interviews I read, Trump had the veiw if sufficient pressure is applied, a deal on his terms will be the result. There seems no understanding in Trump that for some people and some peoples, there are areas that cannot be negotiated under any circumstance.
In the Nuclear Posture Review, there is an implied threat against Iran as it is named as a non nuclear country against which nuclear weapons may be used.
Yet still Iran does not respect Trump's great military.

Putin has publicly stated that any use of nuclear weapons against an ally, will be considered a nuclear attack against Russia.
Nikolai Patrushev clarified this further and stated Iran was a US ally.

Trumps long term opposition to the nuke deal is because he genuinely believes Iran is attempting to acquire nuclear weapons with the intention of destroying Israel.

Iran's position is non negotiable, and Trump's position is non negotiable....

A section from the linked March 2016 Trump interview when asked about Syria. One of his consistencies.
"Well I can only tell you – I can’t tell you, because his strategy, it’s open and it would seem to be fighting ISIS but he’s fighting it in such a limited capacity. I’ve been saying, take the oil. I’ve been saying it for years. Take the oil. They still haven’t taken the oil. They still haven’t taken it. And they hardly hit the oil. They hardly make a dent in the oil.

Peter AU 1

Correction to my previous post - 'Nikolai Patrushev clarified this further and stated Iran was a Russian ally'.

casey

Loved the "rake" line, both apt and humorous at once, not an easy task.

prawnik

To be fair to Ze, even if he really wanted to end the war on Donbass, and even if was prepared to accept the departure of Donbass and Crimea, his American masters won't let him.

Remember Poroshenko ran for office in 2015 as a moderate, then immediately morphed into Bloody Petya as soon as he won.

ISL

PA,

I always appreciate your Russia updates.

In a recent commentary: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/whats-right-about-frances-overtures-toward-russia

it was stated "And Russia, with an aging, shrinking population and ..."

A quick check reveals that currently, Russian population is growing (slightly) and has been for five or so years. Still, the US Census predicts a ~20% decline by 2050.

Aside from issues that in an age of robotics, a shrinking population of unemployable citizens could be a positive for stability and geopolitics, the reversal of the decline in Russian population is quite significant, yet most articles I could find continue to frame the issue as as a crisis.

Would be curious as to any insights you have.

Patrick Armstrong

Complex subject. In brief birth decline started in the 60s, got really bad in immediate post-Sov period then stabilised and started to grow. Reverse for death rate. So shrinking at each end until a couple of decades ago when it started to increase at each end (dramatic drop in drinking for example). infant mortality much reduced) and a natural increase that seems now to have slowed. Big immigration from FUSSR.
But I steal most of my knowledge from Karlin
https://akarlin.com/2014/11/normalization-of-russias-demographics/

ISL

very informative article. The level of propaganda aimed at the American public by the various powers in the US is amazing and to some extent largely effective until reality asserts itself..

Patrick Armstrong

Just ran across this report https://www.awaragroup.com/blog/russian-life-expectancy-surges-to-74-years/
"In 2000, the difference in life expectancy between the two countries was 11.1 years or 14.5% in favor of the US. But by 2019, the difference had shrunk to only 4.8 years or 6.1%."

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