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06 September 2019

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different clue

( I am suspecting that when I said "Article" 25, I should have meant to say "Amendment" 25. At any rate, the recently crafted Constitutional Provision for declaring a President to be incompetent to carry out the duties of his Office and therefor removing him from that Office).

turcopolier

Pacifica Advocate

Without the Indian Wars there would have been some sort of weird cross between Asia and Western Europe, instead of what we know as "the USA"--which would have continued to exist, of course. Alabama would have been admitted as Cherokeeland, or some such, instead of being stolen from those people and ethnically cleansed. You are flat-out wrong about the economics & history of Slavery. Modern Honduras and most of South America, but also Asia's sweatshops are ample proof of that. It was another 130 years before automation and industrialization could come anywhere close to undercutting the plantation system, which remains alive and well in many parts of the world, even today. Slavery was--and still is, in the for-profit prison system--extremely profitable. Precisely 0 plantations in 1860s south or South America went bankrupt because of cost overruns.

turcopolier

PA

Entertaining alternative history. In re the economics of slavery, you are mistaken. slaves could not leave their place of enslavement. Wage slaves can do so. the present migration of peones from across the world to the US border is an example of that. Additionally , agricultural labor is/was something in which machines could replace human labor, assembling electronic goods and/or making clothing requires a lot of busy little hands.

prawnik

It matters not what Trump believes or even what he wants.

What matters is what he does.

Patrick Armstrong

Trump certainly keeps us all mystified.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/03/17/trump-mysteries-inconsistent-inconsistencies/

As for the belief that he's simply a fool -- well he did think he could become POTUS, when no one else did, and he did, so he can't be all that much of a fool can he?

turcopolier

PA

And ... you did not address the issue of the North's invasion and conquest of the South. Was that justifed?

Don Quixote

two words:
Ersatz Israel
or one word:
Lebensraum

catherine

''What matters is what he does''

True.
Everyone is so preoccupied with the "Trump show" they aren't paying attention to what he is doing and what the media isn't reporting.
He's a literal wrecking ball on our public lands, wanting to turn them over for 'development', on regulations that protect investors from WS, on regulations in the FDA that oversees food safety, selling off half of the US oil reserves without regard to possible future emergency needs, gutting and undermining US institutions instead of just cleaning them up, thereby creating an entire populace that trust nothing, deregulating environmental standards to the point that even the auto makers are objecting to gas emissions roll backs...ugh...I cant go on...welcome to the wild, wild west cowboys where the Sheriffs are that Shadow government everyone talks about....good luck.

catherine

'' I have to admit the guy is a maestro at manipulating the media.''

Ever considered the media is manipulating him?
Provoking him to more and more twitter lunacy?
Which in ways tends to benefit Trump by keeping his loyalist on his side defending him against 'fake news'.
Then again maybe its a 'partnership'....Trump gets to keep his defenders and the corp media gets to keep shielding corp special interest by reporting on crazy Trump and not what the corps and Donald's buddies are getting from him.


catherine

''Unfortunately, I am not at all sure Trump appreciates that war on Israel's behalf may not be something within his control. ''

Neither am I.

Besides what Netanyahu may do to start a war we have the Fifth Column to contend with also.
To get around Trump's reluctance to wage military war the Israeli Fifth Column in his Adm steered him into waging 'economic war' on its enemies instead....which is right down Trump's alley as that was the pattern of his business career.

The levers of the economic war are being handled by State and Treasury.
At State, David Schenker, State Department’s Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs and his underling Brian Hook.
At Treasury , And Sigal P. Mandelker Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence U.S. Department of the Treasury. in charge of financial sanctions. Mandelker was born in Israel of course.
The worry is if the economic sanctions dont bring down Israel's list of enemies can they push Trump to the militry solution? Given Trump's greatest fear, that of being a 'loser' maybe they can. There are actually few countries left to sanction or declare terrorist or even individuals left to sanction. And the sanctions dont seem to be working.

The latest person sanctioned is the Capitan of a oil tanker, who refused the State Departments bribe. They sanctioned the ship too but I don't think the ship cares.

Financial Times reports:

''Four days before the US imposed sanctions on an Iranian tanker suspected of shipping oil to Syria, the vessel’s Indian captain received an unusual email from the top Iran official at the Department of State.

“This is Brian Hook . . . I work for secretary of state Mike Pompeo and serve as the US Representative for Iran,” Mr Hook wrote to Akhilesh Kumar on August 26, according to several emails seen by the Financial Times. “I am writing with good news.”
The “good news” was that the Trump administration was offering Mr Kumar several million dollars to pilot the ship — until recently known as the Grace 1 — to a country that would impound the vessel on behalf of the US. To make sure Mr Kumar did not mistake the email for a scam, it included an official state department phone number
The captain didn’t respond to the first message, so Hook persisted with his embarrassing scheme:
“With this money you can have any life you wish and be well-off in old age,” Mr Hook wrote in a second email to Mr Kumar that also included a warning. “If you choose not to take this easy path, life will be much harder for you.”

Hook’s contact was not an isolated incident, but part of a series of e-mails and texts that he has sent to various ships’ captains in a vain effort to intimidate them into falling in line with the administration’s economic war. ''.

Being a American these days is beyond embarrassing. Wont someone please, please get rid of these people.

Jane

Actually, Trump's beliefs on the situation in Syria are the mainstream narrative in the US, not that of the right or the left. As for the Christian issue, the Administration has dealt with the harm done to Christians in Syria and Iraq [as well as Yezidis] is to make their ability to attain refugee status in the US much quicker and easier than others. That runs counter to the beliefs of the Eastern Christians who believe that Christians must remain a part of the people of the region. Re the chemical attacks, Gen Mattis followed orders when told to attack, but never agreed with the assessment of SARG guilt. He stated re Douma, for instance, that he had "seen press reports" making that claim. It was Flynn that had quietly stopped Obama from making good on his "red line" threat by showing him intel that put the lie to that claim. Obama then took the "destroy the regime's chemical weapons approach, rather than confronting the universal "narrative" that the regime was guilty in that case.

artemesia

Wow, what an exquisite insight!!
How I wish I would have thought of that pithy bon mot!!
It certainly suggests a keen sense of history and logic at work, making such a comparison:
Yes indeedy: Lebensraum! Nazis wanted MORE LAND! Someone else's land, because god said it belonged to THEM!
Promised it to them, by gum: land where an ancient book their scribes scribed recorded that the god they envisioned told them they should have it -- THAT was the rationale behind Lebensraum.

By conquering that Lebensraum land, promised but not inhabited in a substantial way by Germans for millennia, Germans were fulfilling their god's promise.
After all, Germans had been wanderers over the earth for all those many centuries, with no tradition of their own people- father-to-son-to-grandson living doggedly on their own soil; no, no that was never the German tradition -- Germans were wanderers.
Lebensraum was the project intended to gather in all dispersed Germans from all over the world and settle them in the land their god gave them.

Just like the Jews.

JamesT

Trump has sold out - he has has gone over to the neocons and in return the whole Russiagate nonsense and threats of impeachment have been brought to a halt.

JamesT

A good example of how attacks will stop if someone who the establishment has been vilifying becomes temporarily useful:
https://twitter.com/medialens/status/1169157686300217345

Trump has gone over to the neocons and the attacks against him in the news media have gone down to a tenth of what they were before.

different clue

I think it is more Trump manipulating the FSM ( Fake Stream Media). After all, the FSM-Lords didn't want Trump in office any more than the bi-partisan Catfood Depublicrat Establishment wanted him in office. But there he is. ( Clinton was the choice of all Catfood Elitists everywhere).

I agree with you in that the FSM puts the spotlight on Trump's Latest Outrage in order to keep the cameras off of deeper problems such as the quiet march of pro-pollution over-deregulation and resource extraction/liquidation.

(Sanders also understands the FSM to be a deceit-based disinformation machine conspiring against him for years now. But he never learned to manipulate the FSM. He has been trying to grow a separate parallel mini-media infrastructure end-running around the FSM. That is hard to do from under the Mufflecone of Silence and Deceit which the FSM has dropped over him and his operation.)

different clue

What you describe is part of the pain I knew I would experience when I voted for Trump. But it was a desperate Lesser-Of-Two-Evils election, and Trump was the Lesser Of Two Evils.

When the thought of the slow-rolling frack-poison death of groundwater reserves all over America gets you down, remember that it would have been even worse to have become part of a radioactive cloud of ionized gas-plasma particles.

different clue

I believe it was Putin who opened the door to the "destroy Syria's chemical weapons" approach. I believe part of Obama's spiteful grudge against Putin from then onward was due to Putin's just and proper embarrassment of Obama on that score.

And of course Obama was not alone in that anti-Putin grudge. The entire Depublicrat Establishment shares it unto this very day.

different clue

Ever since Larry Johnson wrote a post about whether Trump would accept burning down his own Presidency over a war with Iran, I have been thinking about whether he would or would not accept such. And since that question is semi-relevant to what Trump thinks about Syria, I think a comment about that might fit here partway as well as it would have fit there if I would have got my thoughts in order fast enough to offer it there.

I don't think Trump really wants a war between America and Iran. But I think he will accept it. His acceptance of it will flow from his deepest brain-core reasons for taking America out of the JCPOA deal to begin with.

Trump has had a deep-seated race-based animus against and distaste for Obama for years. And Trump is still quietly seething over the public humiliation he suffered at Obama's hands through being roasted in public at the White House Correspondent's dinner. Trump has long been awaiting his day of vengeance for that humiliation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

The JCPOA was one of very few genuine positive accomplishments that the Obama Administration achieved. And because Obama achieved it, and because Trump hates Obama so very deeply, Trump wants to destroy the JCPOA beCAUSE it is Obama's achievement. And Trump cannot permit Obama to have any positive achievement to Obama's credit. So Trump pulled America out of the JCPOA.

The only way out of the Blind Alley Trump has lead us to with Iran is to turn around and walk us exactly out in the direction exactly opposite to the way he walked us in. And that would be to re-enter America into the JCPOA and restore the status-quo-ante that existed just before the pullout. Trump could find a way to do that . . . citing "new information" or something. He could bring his base along if he wanted to.

But to do that would be to admit that Trump has been wrong about JCPOA and that Obama had been right all along. But to do that would be to give Obama back Obama's achievement, and Trump could never bear to do that after Trump has invested so much in destroying Obama's JCPOA achievement. Trump would die a thousand deaths each and every day that he was forced to witness the vindication of Obama inherent in re-entering the JCPOA.

While Trump would not like war with Iran, Trump would rather burn down his own Presidency in a war with Iran than to give Obama the satisfaction of seeing Trump forced to admit that Obama had been right on Iran and Trump was wrong on Iran.

And all the Grima WormBoltons around Trump understand that and they know that if they can get their war with Iran "gleiwitzed" into starting, that Trump will let that war get rolling and then keep rolling along.

Larry Kart

May have mentioned this before, but some six years ago my wife, my stepson, and I were on a tour of Israel. When our bus approached the site where Armageddon was supposed to take place, and I asked our guide, fprmerly an Israel Air Force colonel, how he dealt with this topic when he was serving as a guide to a bus-load of Evangelicals, as was often the case. "I tell them,' he said, "that if the Messiah comes and he's been here before, you win. If he hasn't been here before, we win." "How do they react?" I asked. "The same way you did," he said. "They laugh."

JerseyJeffersonian

Bingo. The Scofield Reference Bible was Protestant heretics' Reichtag Fire. The Little Old Lady from SC's bill is the Enabling Act.

Tidewater

I think you make a good point about Trump's duplicity. And he could very well be the first Zionist president. But what I noticed in the selection from debates offered here to demonstrate his thinking was that whoever put the parentheses into the text is giving Trump a little bit of help where his use of language has faltered. Where Trump uses "take" the parenthesis clarifys that the word "talk" should be understood, though that is not the word Trump used. Other parentheses help clarify that his use of "the people" is a reference to "the Syrian people-SAA-the government" and make it possible to understand Trump's meaning, about the other people, the people we are arming, who might turn out to be just as bad. Without this editorial help Trump's thought would be barely comprehensible. It would be very easy to overlook this editing of apparently inconsequential chaff or word bogies as being inevitable coming from a person like Trump who uses telegraphese and speaks rapidly. A minor thing? Think again.

Look again at another remark. "So these are people who push gays off business, off buildings." The slight slip of the tongue, quickly corrected, does not hide the fact that the inappropriate word "business" is similar by a few letters to the word "building." That is an indicator.

Trump was caught not long ago on camera having great difficulty pronouncing and employing the useful word "origins." It is a strange fumbling moment. He ends up with "oranges." He says this several times. Later in the interview he corrects himself quickly by cutting back to the word "beginnings." He is making a valid point that one needs to go back to the origins of Russiagate. But the issue here is his use of language.

'Science Daily' has an article on March 7, 2016, "Dementia plaques attack language center of brain." The article is about a new special imaging technique developed by scientists at Northwestern's Cognitive Neurology and Alzheimer's Disease Center(CNADC) which allows them to study the build-up of the toxic amyloid in a living person's brain. The technology, called Amyloid PET Imaging, has shown that the buildup of this protein is greater on the left side of the brain. The left side happens to be the site of language processing. In all the complexity of dementia there seems to be a possible first phase called PPA or Primary Progressive Aphasia. This PPA can be identified by testing language skills, and even by drawing. I've seen one of these tests because my mother had Alzheimers for ten years or thereabouts before she died. She was a very fine artist and even her broken sketch of a bit of Pythagorean geometry was kind of interesting, I remember thinking back at the beginning of it all.

Primary Progressive Aphasia causes a patient to have great difficulty in finding the right word. Simple as that. It becomes very obvious after a while and invariably gets progressively worse. One clue to PPA is that a patient will somehow arrive at, as if from a roulette wheel, a word that sounds or looks similar, a word that may have a few letters of the word the patient actually wants. But a word that is absolutely meaningless and nullifies the whole language sequence into nonsense. This can cause serious agitation and distress in patients. George Schultz noticed this in an awful and heart-rending moment on one of his last visits to Ronald Reagan, when the President simply couldn't find a word. I have on occasion wondered why nursing homes are so quiet when once they were called "Bedlam." During Jonathan Swift's last years in a Dublin Bedlam day room cage of sorts (night room too) visitors amused themselves tormenting him into raging frenzies. Nowadays the asylums or nursing homes routinely administer tranquilizing or psychotropic drugs. Just as is done on Death row.

I am not certain that there is anything in the political sphere or hustings that can or should be done about it, but I think that it is becoming chillingly clear that Donald Trump has PPA.

Terry

Google "Trump Cyrus" for Evangelical viewpoints on Trump. Also the "Trump Prophecy"

https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/55754-is-donald-trump-a-modern-day-cyrus

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/october-web-only/donald-trump-cyrus-prophecy-old-testament.html

J

Speaking of chemical weapons and such, what about destroying Israel's illegal stuff! Oh, oh that would be politically incorrect, and the 5th Column would go into overdrive to bury it like what's been going on with Mossad Epstein Island. Speaking of ..., vigilant citizen's drone activity watching all the goings on, an individual who has been ducking in and out of a vehicle trying to avoid the prying eye of the drones eerily looks like Epstein from a distance. The white hair or grey without the Grecian formula.

Oh well, guess we'll continue to watch the bull with the ring in its nose circus regarding Trump and Syria. Notice how Trump, and the Evangelical minions like Hagee never mentions that Syria/Russia saved Christianity in the Middle East when they stood up to the Saudi-backed liver-eaters, while the Evangelicals sat on their duffs not lifting a finger and watched innocent Christian communities suffering and dying.

anon

Trump the chosen one said Alabama will take a hit.He actually meant Obama.There is very little difference between a "ala" and a "o" in the heat of the weather show.I know people who do strange things with sharpie's and trump could be one of them.Stormy might know....ala o o o

jd hawkins

"Trump knows what he's doing".

IMO that is spot-on.

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