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different clue

Those parts of the DC FedRegimeGov which are committed to the "Iran Diddit" line will be pressuring KSA very hard to not make any peace or ceasefire with the Houthis; because if such a ceasefire-peacefire were to be taken as admission that the "Houthis Diddit", then the DC FedRegime anti-Iran propaganda operation becomes exposed and embarrassed.

srw

Go after Saudi oil, gets their attention?

Babak Makkinejad

Are the Han bombing Uighurs?

Is Eastern Turkistan an idepedent state?

To my knowledge, Iranian press were alos silent on Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Philadelphia.

MC

I have been a Syper visitor for a long time. Their intel is excellent, especially contributor "Canthama." They have embedded sources, clearly.

oldman22

Hui people in China are not oppressed as are Uyghur.
My closest friend is married to a Hui, so I have learned about this directly. Here are a couple of references which you might consider reading.

"The Uyghurs are not allowed even basic religious freedom, even though this right is protected by China’s constitution. Men are often banned from growing beards, and women cannot don the hijab in public. The few religious schools available are state-controlled. Muslim workers can be forbidden from fasting Ramadan, and children are forbidden from attending mosques and studying religion. To the Hui Muslims in Shadian, a city in in the Yunnan Province, such suppression of Islamic practice is unthinkable. The city boasts eleven mosques, men and women alike study in Islamic schools, employers give their workers time off to accommodate their prayer schedules, and Muslim youth organize inter-mosque basketball tournaments. Shadian is not an exceptional case, either, as similar religious freedom exists in places like the Ningxia Hui Autonomous Province, a freer mirror of the Uyghur equivalent of Xinjiang."

http://tyglobalist.org/in-the-magazine/theme/rift-the-uyghurs-and-the-hui/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hui_people

Barbara Ann
"The Russians are filling the ME gap with diplomacy and downright common sense in dealing with the highly explosive situations there"

Yes, but is this done with Trump's knowledge/acquiescence? No, not a Putin's puppet conspiracy, just the possibility that Putin & Trump may have agreed a strategy for a gradual handover of the ME entanglements portfolio to Russia. Judging Trump by his actions (not his words) I find it hard to completely discount this possibility. There is certainly a coincidence of interests; Russia wants peace in the region (US neocons being a major barrier to this) and Trump wants the US out of foreign wars.

Jack

“Are the Han bombing Uighurs?”

They may as well. It would be more humane than their “re-education” in concentration camps.

The Iranian theocracy is just like all those they criticize. Equally corrupt and hypocritical.

Babak Makkinejad

Netanyahu can fly to Moscow as many times as he desires and meet with Putin. US President cannot. It is a funny world.

Babak Makkinejad

France has banned donning hejab too. Are they oppressing Muslims.

A muslim man cannot take more than one wife in US, is she preventing Muslim men to fully embrace their religion?

Jack
The CCP continues to annihilate Muslim traditions from the Hui people-inhabited areas by demolishing Islamic architecture and symbols; no signs in Arabic are allowed.

https://bitterwinter.org/islamic-culture-vanishes-from-inner-mongolia/

Babak likes to lecture us that the West is lost because it lacks spirituality, just like his theocracy that claims it epitomizes an ideal Islamic state. However they are ready to throw other Muslims under the bus if it suits their immediate economic interests. They don’t care if the Uigyurs are fodder for the organ trade as long as the CCP sends them a few bucks.

No different than Justin with all his virtue signaling while costuming in blackface.

Fred

DC,

You mean Egyptian teenagers aren't getting a day off from school to protest against westernized industrial civilization? It makes great cover for organizing.

Amir

As Nassim Nikolaas Taleb would say, the Saudis lack #SITG, or slim in the game. As serfs of “Al Saud Tribe” (Don’t Recall the “real” name of the Bone Saw Bandit’s gang) the Saudi subjects don’t want to risk their bottoms for the benefit of MBS. The Yemeni on the other hand are defending their families and if/when Iran assists them, that would be a point of honor.

SAC Brat

Too bad the manufacturers of these missiles did not have a sense of humor and use data plates and stencils making the missiles appear to be Raytheon, IAI or Rafael Defense Systems made. A missed opportunity to psyops the crazies.

Terence Gore

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/saudi-arabia-drone-attacks-trump-us-iran-global-warfare-nato-a9113636.html

"the strikes on Saudi Arabia provide a clear strategic warning that the US era of air supremacy in the Gulf, and the near US monopoly on precision strike capability, is rapidly fading.” He explains that a new generation of drones, cruise missiles, and precision strike ballistic missiles are entering the Iranian inventories and have begun to spread to the Houthis in Yemen and Hezbollah in Lebanon."

oldman22

BBC reports:
quote
The UN has welcomed a proposal from Yemen's Iran-backed Houthi rebels to end all attacks on Saudi Arabia as part of a peace initiative.

A statement said the proposal could send "a powerful message of the will to end the war".
endquote

includes good video of damage

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49785413

Jack

“From Yunnan in the south to Gansu and Ningxia, Henan and Beijing, the crackdown on Islam in China has spread beyond just Xinjiang, reflecting the view of Xi Jinping that the Communist Party must be above all other faiths.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/21/world/asia/china-islam-crackdown.html

Watch all the anti-American propagandists tie themselves in knots as they come to the defense of Xi Jinping and the totalitarian Chinese Communist Party! These propagandists live in the comfort of the West with freedom of expression but want to deny that to those who live under the jackboot of the authoritarian Chinese communists.


Fred

Babak,

Just re-educating them.
https://www.ft.com/content/48508182-d426-11e9-8367-807ebd53ab77

Babak Makkinejad

Even if true and not propaganda, it would be an internal affair of a sovereign state.

Let the Saudis handle it.

confusedponderer

MC,
re PL, what odds to you give on Trump doing something stupid? Does he understand the concept of "blow back?"

Come one, think about who you're talking about and his record. Trump, even on a good day, easily outlies even Boris Johnson (who was fired as a journalist for three times for inventing stories).

Trump's idea of subtlety and indirectness is "I want all the S***, for free, OR THEN ..., threating with the biggest stick ever, the biggest red button ever, rokettas that work and penal taxes or penal taxes or penal taxes or denial of money and who iirc said that he likes nukes because they make a lot of BOOM.

Yesterday or so Trump also said he knows why a lot of Germans don't like him - it's jealousy, because he is such an extraordinary successful and good for the Trump US president. Yes, and we're also jealous because we are not as orange.

That said, I confess that I have a bet on Trump - that, given time, he'll pardon himself for crimes he didn't commit. If I win I'll get lemon icecream.

turcopolier

CP
"Trump's idea of subtlety and indirectness is "I want all the S***, for free" You have made a basic mistake. Trump's leftist opponents have that program, not he. As for his implied threats of war, do you not recognize that this is all BS. The man shrinks from war. pl

Barbara Ann

I expect it depends on the Scot - and if the inquirer is English. An acquaintance once recounted a story of an English friend's visit to Glasgow. He was on his way to catch a train and asked a local for the time. He received a non-verbal response which I understand is called a Glasgow kiss.

oldman22

Interesting, but Hui do not speak Arabic.
"The Hui predominantly speak Chinese,[2] while maintaining some Arabic and Persian phrases.[5] In fact, the Hui ethnic group is unique among Chinese ethnic minorities in that it associates with no non-Sinitic language.[6]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hui_people

confusedponderer

Mr. Lang,
re "As for his implied threats of war, do you not recognize that this is all BS. The man shrinks from war. pl"

I hope you're right, for your country and all bystanders.

As for "I want all the S***, for free", in my perceptions he is on his immobilia ways a lot. When demanding we increase defence spending by 2, 4, 6, 8, or 10% (Grenell's 'I only say what Trump tells me to say' numbers are that variable) he basically wants to increase rents for countries housing US troups. Everything else would be ... probably unfair or so.

And as for implied threats ... Trump yesterday or so demanded that Europe, particular France and Germany, are to, damn it, allow all IS jihadis the US caught with french or german passports to travel back home to France and Germany, or the US would let them loose in our countries and that we would then have the trouble to catch them again. Har har har.

Well, let us call blackmail what blackmail is. What do I make ot that?

Jamboree
Elysium
Rodeo
Kerfuffle
...

turcopolier

CP

You are definitely not the original CP. 1. You did not acknowledge that it is the Democrats who want everything for free, not he. 2. All you countries in NATO agreed to maintain your defense spending at 2% of GDP. That is not "wanting everything for nothing." I believe i will ban you. You are merely anti-American.

different clue

If any climate protest allies or supporters or spokesfolk take credit in public for the few-hundred-protester gatherings here and there in Egypt, I will certainly have to admit the possibility.

But for now, I haven't heard of any such a connection. And the expressed concerns of the protesters all sound to be Sisi-connected, if the reporting is true and accurate.

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