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plantman

The Democrats are suffering from a sincerity deficit.
I mean, c'mon, who believes these guys?
They all moan and groan about conditions on the border but never uttered a peep when Obama, the deporter in chief, deported 3 million migrants.
Why is that?
Are we supposed to believe they didn't know what was going on back then, or is their moral indignation only piqued during the campaign season?

The reason these debates are so disappointing is because Trump revolutionized the way these confabs are supposed to be conducted. He showed that you need to be yourself, don't worry about being politically correct, and say what believe without looking at a teleprompter.

As a liberal, I can't imagine voting for Trump but--let's be honest--he could beat this group of wussies with one hand tied behind his back.

Fred

Apparently the debate folks can't recognize that the Mayor of Detroit is white and that means black folks are willing to vote for white people (twice, since Duggan was re-elected) and they should be a bit more worried about the failure of their economic policies than the successes of thier identity politics in democratic primaries.
https://detroitmi.gov/government/mayors-office/mayor

I wonder if, after all the questions about Mueller, Russia and the like were asked and answered; did anyone get around to asking about the economy under Trump's policies?

David Lentini

Too bad she won't discuss her and family's connections to the NXIVM sex slave ring.

MP98

Ah, Kirsten Jellobrain, NY's "finest."
Once again proving that looks and brains are rarely (if ever) in the same package.

MP98

Whoever the Democrat is who hates America the most and makes it to the general election will just be pulp for the Trump wood chipper.

turcopolier

David Lentini
Who are you talking about?

ex PFC Chuck

Couldn't resist the lure of a DDG search on "NXIVM sex slave Gillibrand." Here what came up at the top:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4864917/inside-the-terrifying-nxivm-slave-cult-where-women-including-a-hollywood-actress-are-forced-to-hand-over-naked-pics-get-branded-with-the-founders-initials-and-are-beaten-with-paddles/

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/kirsten-gillibrand-alleged-sex-slavery-and-the-2020-primary.html

Bill H

They railed endlessly that "crossing our border illegally" should not be a felony, in a presidential debate, but the nature of that law is a matter for Congress and not for the president to deal with.

Why are all of these people who are presently members of Congress standing on that stage declaiming about this issue and not introducing any bills to the floor in Congress to actually change the law? They should put their money where their mouths are.

Mathias Alexander

The Democrats can't make it about economic policy or foreign policy because their policies are idntical to the Republicans on those. So identity politics fills the gaps.

John Minehan

It's a big Federal case in the Albany area where Sen. Gillibrand is from. https://time.com/5568135/nxivm-allison-mack-raniere/

turcopolier

John Minehan

How is it related to KG?

turcopolier

mathias Alexander

you are wrong about the economics part. Most of the democrat candidates want a government controlled centrally planned economy. Add up what they say and the desired end is clear.

Terry

Good summary of Gillbrand/Nxvim.

“[Gillibrand’s] father Doug Rutnik came to work as a consultant for NXIVM... He was fired, they sued him, and they had to pay him $100,000,” Parlato told Big League Politics. “Her father’s wife, her stepmother, was also a member of NXIVM. ... Doug got her into the cult, Gillibrand’s father got Gillibrand’s future stepmother into the cult. Doug left the cult because he was sued. Clare Bronfman, after her father was sued, donated money to Gillibrand. Gillibrand accepted it.”

Parlato said Rutnik, whose daughter Gillibrand is running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020, allegedly signed a confidentiality agreement in the settlement.

According to The New York Post Gillibrand said she didn’t know anything about NXIVM until the group made national headlines in 2017 when former member Sarah Edmondson filed a complaint, saying she was branded with Raniere’s initials, “KR.” The Justice Department began a federal investigation of NXIVM later that year.

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2019/04/report-gillibrands-father-worked-for-nxivm-tried-to-distance-himself-from-upstate-ny-cult.html

John Minehan

As far as I know, the only link is "Albany."

SAC Brat

Thanks for posting that as I was thinking the same thing. I keep telling folks around me who get all riled up about what politicians are saying to watch the hands.

It is almost a different world when you ignore the audio and spilled ink and note actions instead. Granted, you miss a lot of drama...

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