Time for a new party? "The Global Progressives?"

The AOC/marxist wing of the present Democratic Party seems to have little in common with the rest of them; the Blue Dogs, Yellow Dogs, Zionist liberals, other liberals, true Greens, etc.  The AOC led wing of the party refuses cooperation with one and all.  They have virtually paralysed the Pelosi/San Francisco leadership.  Last week they would not vote for a supplemental appropriation that included money for HHS use on the border to support the human wave washing up on our desert shore.  Yesterday, 15 of the neo-bolsheviki went as a Congressional Delegation to a Border Patrol facility and emerged screaming (literally) that women and children were being starved in filthy conditions by the Border Patrol fascists.  Today, a delegation of evangelical Hispanic pastors visited the same facility and said that conditions were nothing like that and that the BP was doing the best job it could with the money it has.  So, my conclusion is that the AOC neo-bolsheviks are interested in agitprop for the revolution to come and not in legislative compromise to improve the present situation.

As I have written before, IMO this extreme left group are forsworn in that they falsely and with an intention to deceive took the oath of office to enter Congress swearing to uphold the Constitution of the US and laws legally derived from it.  IOW, they are a revolutionary subversive group like Antifa.

Does the Democratic Party really want them? 

It seems clear that the neo-bolsheviks do not want the rest of the Democrats.

They should form a new party.  This would enable them to dump all the embarrassing (for them) baggage of Democratic Party history as the old-timey party of the slave holding South and such people as Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson.

I suggest that the name could be the "Global Progressive Party"  This would be more truly representative of their ultimate goals. pl

Comments

[Paco]

With all due respect Colonel, I think you are “misoverestimating” the lady. I see no Ulyanov or Trotsky, or for that matter no Che Guevara, characters that you may deeply dislike but quite successful at their undertakings. The DNC will take care of her, they had no problem with the more experienced Bernie.

[Dave Schuler]

Let me present an alternative view. I can't say this in any way that doesn't sound nativist. The "neo-bolsheviks" are the new Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders's entourage has overwhelmed the old line Democrats.

Most of these "neo-bolsheviks" were not reared in culturally American households. They were reared in Puerto Rican, Somalian, and Palestinian households in Puerto Rican, Somalian, and Palestinian neighborhood attending schools taught by people who were ashamed of American history.

[JamesT]

Colonel,

I think that characterizing AOC and her fellow travellers as neo-bolshevik is a little bit strong. Harold Wilson's Labour government famously imposed a top marginal tax rate of 95% on the UK, yet they never joined Comecon nor introduced central planning.

[Eric Newhill]

DNC Chair Perez has said that AOC is the face of the new Democrat party. She seems to be what the Ds want. So I think the old style Democrats, if there are any truly remaining in a year, are the ones that will have to create a new party. The insurgents have won. Their morale was boosted by Bernie's good showing in 2016. They think Bernie could have actually beaten Trump if not for Hillary's interference.

[Eric Newhill]

Dave Schuler,
Exactly. Diversity is our strength? - don't know if I should laugh or cry.

[MP98]

I wouldn't be so sure about the DNC stopping this.
It looks to me like the Democrat party has been forced to drop its decades old mask by AOC and the rest of the looney tunes.
The mask being that for a long time, a healthy majority of Democrats (and the media, BIRM) actually have agreed with most of the socialist hate- America garbage being openly pushed now.

[Walrus]

I agree with Col. Lang. People make the mistake of thinking leftists are warm and fuzzy.
Pol Pot fitted that description, his young idealistic Khmer Rouge party murdered at least 2 million people. I see little difference between AOC and him.

[rho]

These "Global Progressives" will learn it the hard way that nationally, they have potential for about 10-20% of the votes, just like the various Green parties in Europe. Good enough to win some major urban centers in a first-past-the-post system where their supporters are concentrated, but far away from winning national majorities.

[Flavius]

The worm can turn powerfully fast. Look in the UK at how quickly the Brexit Party attained critical mass and threatens the outright destruction of the Tory Party because Brexit exposed the party as frauds. The new bolshie wing of the Democratic Party is no more representative of the traditional American working man than is the AFSCME or are the Federal employee unions. Neither was the Democratic Party that came to be led by the Clintons, Obamas, Schumers, Pelosis. The traditional labor unions have a lot to answer for in that regard. The question is can the Democratic Party continue to survive as a viable national Party as a money driven party of government, snowflakes, and coastal elites. Trump seems to have intuited this, guessed it, lucked into it, whatever, but he appears to be blowing it with his terrible appointments and incoherent FP. He almost certainly win reelection because he has been blessed by political opponents that are entirely out of touch with the mainstream values of America (I hope), but he'll leave behind nothing memorable, or worse. He appears to be grooming his daughter for the job - ridiculous. The only upside of that is that it might motivate him to avoid a really dumb war.

[different clue]

I do not automatically see myself voting for Candidate Ivanka if she decides to run.

But if she were to run and win, I would hope that Hillary and Chelsea are both still alive and sentient to witness the election of Ivanka Trump as " America's First Woman President".

[Jim Ticehurst]

Colonel …. Great Idea..I agree..Its Time for the All These First Generation,,No Generation..Half Generation and Even 2nd Generation Senators and Congress Persons with Strange Profiles (and Chinese Drivers with pockets full of Thumb Drives ) To Fess Up and form their own Party....The "GPP"..Gran Polo Patrioico...Just like the GPP that formed in Venezuela ..Brought Nicolas Maduro to Power 2012-2013..and United 35,000 movements and Collectives...I also think the United States Government should start publishing the Long List of Comminist/Socialist/Marxist Front Groups operating inside The United States like it Used to..That Bernie The Stork Sanders..should run as a Socialist because he is..One..and the Only thing "Progressive" has been the Stink..Lies….and Corruption .. Deception and Betrayal of the Democrat Party ...

[Eugene Owens]

First Likud President.

[Julian]

What centrists don't realize is that whatever you want to call these people, they can out-organize, out-theory, and out-rhetoric whatever 'reasonable' force you consider to be the appropriate middle ground. They're still a lesser force, but they are one of the ascendant ones.

That 10 to 20 in Europe is growing, and in the same way on the right UKIP forced the centre right Tories to hold a vote on the EU, these individuals can force the social democrats to move further left or hemorrhage votes.

I see this attitude alot among grassroots conservative types - the 'loopy' woke AOC cashing in her 'identity politics' card to have a lark on the taxpayers dime in 'liberal New York.' She's crazy compared to 'real America.' (And she can't get anywhere because she doesn't even understand 'basic economics' according to the Daily Wire and political philosopher Benjamin Shapiro)

Whatever the merits of her economic views, she and the people behind her understand power: what it is, how to get it, and the imperative of hegemony. Moreover, they have conviction and will, which counts for more than polling.

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/green-black-wave/
http://www.unz.com/akarlin/radical-ideologies-of-21st-century/

[Julian]

She's a radlib who doesn't believe in expropriating the means of production, but the people behind her are honest to goodness communists (same with Bernie).

[tpcelt]

I think the diversity is our strength concept is yet another really terrific observation about a specific time and place in American history that has turned into...well, I don’t know exactly what, but something more cheapened in today’s political discourse by its application to the more general and frightening events occurring in the domestic US polity. To me, the key words of diversity and strength have become so malleable that mischief of a grievous sort is afoot.

Let me try to clarify if I can.

I’ve always thought that diversity is our strength was an accurate and ennobling observation originating from, and specifically directed toward, the contributions of the US to defeat Nazi Germany; that is, toward the ability of the armed forces of this military, industrial, resource-rich, and agricultural powerhouse-comprised of scrappy guys and gals from everywhere USA (immigrant and born-here)-bringing skills, education, and cultural backgrounds together to defeat a Germany determined, with its partners in Italy and Japan, to impose a homogenous Aryan culture on Europe and ultimately the US.

To me, diversity is strength always meant e pluribus unum: out of many, one. And in a very good way. I guess things have changed.

[optimax]

AOC is a candidate chosen by a sub-group of the Democrat Party called Justice Democrats. In conjunction to running candidates for public office, their goal is to pull the party radically to the left. There is a handful of JDs (how fitting an acronym) serving in the House. The Justice Dems are tired with the slow progress of reform and call for revolution. Bernie was the first serious candidate in modern times to campaign on a revolution--somewhat tamer than JD's and their eager disciple AOC. Here's a summary from their website:

"Fighting for the Green New Deal, Medicare for All, free college, ending mass incarceration and deportation and rejecting all corporate PAC money. It’s time to usher in a new generation of Democrats who represent our communities and will fight for solutions that match the scale of our crises."

Free college will mass produce unemployed revolutionaries, make us like Central and South America, and most likely a dictatorship. I know living in Portland exacerbates my perception of the likely-hood revolutionary political insanity eventually devouring the nation. I hope so but I think immigration over time has degraded us.

DJ website:

https://www.justicedemocrats.com/candidates/

[tpcelt]

I only respond to one point of your comment: you may be surprised that those of us who voted for Trump can also say emphatically that we definitely didn’t vote for Ivanka or Jared. Or, for that matter, Pence. But on the 2016 vote for Trump himself, I think that’s turned out ok so far. We’ll have a chance to stay or change the course in November 2020.

[Factotum]

When all is said and done, Cortez is just one more front for the teachers unions - just a little more flashy than the other government union tools. She wants open borders.

Teachers unions need open borders to fill their failing classrooms. They are more in synch than meets the eye. Filled classrooms means a steady stream of teacher union due to fund Democrat campaign coffers. Can you find a more plausible explanation for this aberrational Democrat craziness? Border is no problem has morphed into border is such a problem everyone has to be let in now. Same net result - open borders.

Who benefits immediately and directly from open borders? The teachers unions .Follow the money. The biggest expenditure illegal pick up for free as soon as they break cross the border: SCOTUS mandated free K-12. Teachers unions love open borders. Democrats love the teachers unions.

[Thirdeye]

The last time organized labor showed any real muscle within the Democratic Party was when they pushed Walter Mondale forward to be Carter's running mate, then propped him up again in 1984. It's been all neoliberals and DLC types since then. The AOC types can make lots of noise but they will not be effective unless they understand and take heed of the dissent going on on the other side of the aisle. Until then, they'll just be fighting for a few symbolic perks from their party's power brokers - at least until the power brokers can shunt them off the scene entirely.

[Seamus Padraig]

Yeah, something tells me that Trump's popularity--such as it is--will not necessarily transfer automatically to Ivanka.

[pB]

yah the one thing i always here from fellow white american is the problem with palestinian refugees, if only their was a place to send them back too?

[Eric Newhill]

tpcelt,
An all white Christian US military would have done just as well against the Nazis and Tojo, would have built the railroads, settled the West, etc. The fact that some troops were black or English as a second language is merely incidental. It added no value as far as I can see (Relax. My own father was an ESL troop in WW2).

As I see it, diversity is fine, if it is relegated to naunces within European or Asian cultures. Once it begins to include the third world caution is advised. Take on too much at once, and the country becomes the third world as opposed to the third worlders becoming American - a point we have now achieved.

Generally the slogan is just a stupid phrase repeated by stupid people (i.e. liberal democrats) that means nothing without context. How diverse? Head hunting cannibals? Should they be allowed to practice their culture in Times Square? How about Nazis? Aren't they part of the great patchwork quilt of humanity? How much immigration is good. If a million a year is good, then 10 million must be better? How about 100 million/yr?

[Fred]

tpcelt,

" the contributions of the US to defeat Nazi Germany...."
The US at that time was 90% white, 9% black and 1 % everything else. The majority of whites and blacks were Christian.

[Fred]

Factotum,

Steady employment for currently employed teachers is important to the teachers themselves and paying union dues is not a given. The consequences of Janus vs. AFSME have just started to be felt. The Republican Party as an organization should start making some efforts in recruiting teachers to their point of view on a local basis. They'll get a lot more influence that way.
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/30/624513403/labor-clout-takes-a-hit-in-supreme-court-ruling-on-dues

[JamesT]

The main push from the Justice Democrats is they want to get money out of politics. The Justice Democrats are also the main force in the left that oppose the neoconservatives and the neoconservatives Likudnik policies. If you watch Kyle Kulinski (a founder of the Justice Democrats) on youtube he spends half his time railing against Bolton and praising Tulsi Gabbard.

I have a friend who grew up in Zurich. Under the Swiss system - university is free but it is very competitive. If you don't make the grade you half to study somwhere outside of Switzerland. This system rewards brains and hardwork - but unlike the US system it rewards the brains and hardwork of the kids not the parents.