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13 February 2018

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james

apparently politicians do this kind of stuff all the time, but the main thing is you are not supposed to get caught... netanyahu doesn't seem all that different then all your other garden variety politicians... sorry, i don't have high regard for politicians generally and netanyahu seems pretty run of the mill to me...

Babak Makkinejad

Nah, he acts just like a typical politician. LBJ built his ranch on government dime.

Laura

The crimes speak to a very small-minded and parochial man. I've never understood someone with such public power and prestige being a criminal over such small matters that he could easily have paid for. I guess it is a power thing..."just because I can." Sadly, politicians seem to be no better than the rest of us when seeking "a deal."

Richardstevenhack

"Netanyahu is suspected of accepting lavish gifts from wealthy benefactors in return for advancing their interests"

Isn't that the very definition of a politician? :-)

Gotta hand it to Israel - they actually try to prosecute their corrupt officials. In the US, we allow them to retire and give advice on CNN.

plantman

I suspect there is an ulterior motive here, like the fact that Bibi has resisted another incursion into Lebanon (or more fireworks in Syria) which is what the loonies want...

I bet a friend that Bibi would not start another war because wars tend to be the death-knell for political careers.

It looks like I might win that bet.

Bibi is an old fashioned, oily politico who loves power and money but avoids unpredictable conflicts. He talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk...which is why he has survived as long as he has.

Jonathan House

Lock him up!

turcopolier

richardstevenhack

do you have anyone in mind? pl

JamesT

I was going to write "they didn't actually put Moshe Katsav on trial until after he left office". But, his wikipedia page indicates that he resigned as part of a plea deal so I guess my memory of those events is incorrect. Maybe Bibi does have reason to be worried.

Jony Kanuck

Col,

Don't get your hopes up too high. The attorney general must decide to proceed with the charges. Despite his religious convictions he is apparently not without ambition: If he brings the charges against a sitting prime minister & the prime minister is acquitted, the attorney general can kiss his chances of being named chief justice, goodbye.

On the other hand, these are the first two of four corruption charges. Among the next two charges is the big one; huge money paid over the order for two more submarines from Thyysen Krupp. One could hope that the attorney general can find the courage of Sampson!

SmoothieX12

He is definitely shrewd.

turcopolier

jony kanuck

"neither fear nor hope," pl

505thPIR

"Character must under-grid talent or talent will cave in."

Peter VE

He did it all backwards. First, you do all the favors, then cash in after you're out of office.

Poul

I doubt Jabotinsky would have made much of it. As long as Israel's security was not compromised.

He grew up in a very similar corruption culture.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n23/peter-pomerantsev/diary

Babak Makkinejad

But Spaniards are cut from the same cloth; how many worked or are working in the informal sector while receiving government benefits?

Eric Newhill

James,
My view on these matters is that the correct question is not "*how* was he caught?" or "what did he do?", but "*why* was he caught?"

When politicians are busted for this sort of thing, it typically signals a change - or an effort to change - the political power structure.

eakens

A one HRC comes to mind.

jpb


"He probably would have liked the ruthless manipulation of the good will of Americans of all tribes to gain mastery of US policy."

After 9/11 the Americans are no longer master, but servants in their own house.
Yes, ruthless manipulation; but one can't complain if one gets fleas sleeping with dogs.

IMO...The Iron Wall: Zionist Revisionism from Jabotinsky to Shamir by Lenni Brenner is the best history of the origins of racist Zionism. Benjamin Netanyahu is the heir of racist Zionism.

https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/ironwall/index.htm

IMO...Netanyahu should be on trial in the Hague for crimes against humanity, rather than stealing a few shekels.

FourthAndLong

Jabotinsky exceeds Netanyahu immeasurably in terms of character. He has a very hard-ass reputation these days which is not really deserved. It's more a residue of the belief that Jews are supposed to behave like good little children to be slaughtered whenever the great white massahs say slaughter. Says far more about the people judging him than anything else. He also suffers from the phenomenon of hindsight. That the behaviour of Israel in the incarnation of people such as Netanyahu - who is, believe it or not, rather mild within the context of the present day eminences of Israeli politics - yes, that that behaviour has been so atrociously bad - well, having seen this behaviour and arrogance, it's hard for people who haven't had the time to separate Jabotinsky from recent decades. He's lumped in and damned with all the rest. Not fair in the context of the times he lived through, watching his people slaughtered by the millions. But such is human nature.

As for the corruption stuff - - that''s something that has been always kept in hand so as to put those crazies back in the box when necessary. An oldie but a goodie.

Flavius

I care one hell of a lot less about Bibi and his wife, Israeli grifters, than I do about the Clintons, America's grifters.. This pair took the formula of giving back 10% of you steal to heights of greed perhaps unknown in the world history of grifterdom. Government service is where the money is, as Willie Sutton said. Oh no, that's not what he said..
Nevertheless, to avert the damage these bastards have inflicted with their government service, knowing what we know now, I'd have gladly paid the ransom.

SAC Brat

The acorn didn't fall far from the tree. Imagine this occurring in the US...

"Netanyahu’s son brags about prostitutes, $20 billion deal for friend’s dad in strip club rant"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/01/09/netanyahus-son-brags-about-prostitutes-20-billion-deal-for-friends-dad-in-strip-club-rant/

fanto

one of the two people who are involved with these two charges of bribing Bibi was the Holywood producer Milchan. IIRC - he was involved with the theft of nuclear triggers or 'initiators' from the US to benefit Israel. is my recollection correct?

Yeah, Right

I wonder how much of this has to do with Bibi accepting gratuities from Jamie Packer, who is not Jewish.

Some backscratching within one's own tribe may be one thing, but accepting gifts from a goyim who then rather effortlessly obtains permanent residency and a nice holiday home in The Promised Land?

Maybe Bibi just went a wee bit too far there.....

J

The Israelis have a PM-gate, and we here in the U.S. have our very own Intel-gate that makes Water-gate look like a walk in the park by comparison.

CIA, FBI, appears crooked to the bone.

https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-or-intelgate/

Balint Somkuti, PhD

Whatever people think and say about Israel this one is a sign of a real democracy. Where else would be an acting minister president, or a state president charged AND sent to jail! Re Moshe Kacav.

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