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15 February 2018

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Anna

How would you asses the cognitive level of the authors of the latest indicment? What about the mental state of Mr. Rosenstein? -- "US indicts 13 Russians for 2016 election meddling, but ‘no allegations’ they influenced outcome." https://www.rt.com/news/419044-us-election-meddling-indicts/
"Moscow has repeatedly refuted the claims of alleged meddling in the 2016 presidential elections. Russian President Vladimir Putin also ridiculed such claims, suggesting that the US was “not a banana republic” to be treated that way." -- Sigh.

Richardstevenhack

Mueller has indicted the Internet Research Agency.

These are the guys the Russians arrested as...wait for it...CIA spies!

A Brief History of the “Kremlin Trolls”
https://thesaker.is/a-brief-history-of-the-kremlin-trolls/

Quote:

Everything what we know now about the so-called “Kremlin trolls from the Internet Research Agency paid by Putin’s favorite chef,” came from one source, a group of CIA spies that used the mascot of Shaltay-Boltay, or Humpty-Dumpty, for their collective online persona.

They were arrested in November 2016 and revealed as the FSB and former FSB officers

End Quote

Read Scott Humor's piece - he goes into some detail about who these people really were: anti-Russian Russians who created fake accounts and posted troll comments.

The Twisted Genius

sheperd,

Reference your comment at #70

You work in the field of media influence and understand what is going on. I appreciate that understanding. It is clearly a hard thing to explain concisely. As you know, I was thinking about writing a post on that a while back. Trying to summarize it clearly is beyond me. I'm having enough trouble trying to understand the whole process myself. I've found the work of Jonathan Albright to be helpful. He's a professor and researcher of journalism and news who has published a lot of his research at medium.com. There is no one article that summarizes the entire phenomenon, but reading the full body of his work lays it out pretty well. Here's a blurb from the Tow Center for Digital Journalism where he's based.

"Jonathan Albright is the Research Director at the Tow Center for Digital Journalism. Previously an assistant professor of media analytics in the school of communication at Elon University, Dr. Albright’s work focuses on the analysis of socially-mediated news events, misinformation/propaganda, and trending topics, applying a mixed-methods, investigative data-driven storytelling approach."

When Vance Packard's "The Hidden Persuaders" came out, there was a mighty popular uproar against the idea that peoples behavior could be unwittingly modified through the techniques of advertising. I feel the present use of modern media technology and techniques is just a logical development of Packard's ideas. Most people are clueless about this.

https://medium.com/@d1gi

shepherd

Anna, (your comment at 77)

The real number of years the average wage of the core work force has not risen is 40, not 17. It's more than a generation. I'm deeply concerned about this. A more troubling statistic to my mind is that while the median household income in the US is around 60K, if you take the bottom 60%, the median household income is only 33K. The latest tax cut will only reinforce this. I think this makes us much more vulnerable to Russian influence rather than otherwise.

Eric Newhill

Murali,
Whatever marker they set on my final resting place must read, "He was a "Here lies a die hard primitive.Proudly deplorable unto his last breath"

Anna

Judging from the most recent indictment of the alleged 13 Russian trolls, the Mueller's investigations are only able to produce legalistic diarrhea: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-16/indictment-just-start-mueller-probe-continue-months

GeneO

Anna -

It is!

TTG never claimed any such thing. Please reread his post.

Dr.puck

And this escaped Mueller?

Luckily it is so first order that it will no doubt lead to a revision of the indictment. Maybe Mueller should interview Mr. Humor.

NancyK

Who are we to believe Mueller or Hannity on Fox news or Breitbart. I fear many Americans believe the latter. A sad day when some Americans feel Putin has more credibility than the FBI.

turcopolier

NancyK

government should be trusted? The framers of the constitution did not think so. pl

Account Deleted

Come on TTG, shooting someone dead in the middle of Fifth Avenue is one thing, dealing with Russians - in the New McCarthy Era - is quite another.

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David Habakkuk

Re the 'twerp' formerly of GCHQ (Matt Tait): I did a little digging and found his BEng final year project from Imperial College, if you are interested. His was the only one listed among the 'Distinguished Projects' not to have a link (GCHQ protocol to scrub it perhaps?) but fortunately the URL pattern is initial.surname and it is still on the server. Whatever else he is, he isn't stupid. With 'low-level' coding knowledge like this I can see why GCHQ was interested. A guy with these talents contributing to Lawfare and running a course at Texas Law seem less than obvious career moves, to say the least.

http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/teaching/distinguished-projects/2009/m.tait.pdf

Babak Makkinejad

Very solid work, amazing that is the work of a single person.

Anna

"...while the median household income in the US is around 60K, if you take the bottom 60%, the median household income is only 33K. The latest tax cut will only reinforce this. I think this makes us much more vulnerable to Russian influence rather than otherwise."
Do you seriously believe that the electorate in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania has been mighty influenced by "Russian meddling" on Facebook and by BlackLivesMatter marches in NYC and not by the unfairness of the wealth distribution in the US? Or you think that Mrs. Clinton's many charms would have certainly prevailed over the (supposedly) anti-war Trump if not the "Russian meddling?" It is not hard to imagine that the US healthcare system scandal, the triumph of Wall Street, and the disfigured soldiers coming back home to their "deplorable" parents from the never-heard places thousands miles away could be the reason for the votes against Clinton. There are two major problems that the US faces today: The lack of mechanisms for influencing the government (see https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy) and the related problem of politicized national security apparatus, which is unconstitutional (by the way, James Comey and Robert Mueller have ran the FBI for the past 16 years). Moreover, what has been a level of trust in the US Congress BEFORE the last elections that were supposedly screwed by "Russian meddling?" Here are the data: http://www.people-press.org/2017/05/03/public-trust-in-government-remains-near-historic-lows-as-partisan-attitudes-shift/

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