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15 December 2017

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VietnamVet

PT

Thanks.

There are a lot of similarities to the Benghazi Hearings. There is a cover-up of the facts on the ground. The difference is that the Steele Dossier was and is an attack on the Trump Presidency. It appears that it is in the best interest of the White House to let the truth out. But, this would release a huge case of worms. There must be incredible pressure to keep the facts hidden and continue the new Cold War with Russia.

Corporate media is being obtuse and very confusing to this oldster. This seems clear.

The Dossier was initiated by the right wing Washington Free Beacon. Clinton Campaign took it over. It was circulated to the media before the election but not published. Senator John McCain got a copy and gave it to the FBI. Buzzfeed released it in January 2017. To date, nothing significant in the dossier including the golden showers has been proven to be factual. Even so, FBI continued to fund it. Classified SIGINT on the Russian Ambassador was leaked to the media by a high level political appointee(s) in the intelligence community. General Michael Flynn is caught in a FBI perjury trap. The White House is now staffed by third-rate military and Goldman Sachs flunkies.

The only way out of this swamp is to stop the endless wars.

Publius Tacitus

VV,
You are wrong on one important point--"The Dossier was initiated by the right wing Washington Free Beacon."
No. The Dossier was not initiated by them. The WFB hired Fusion to do opposition research. If they had actually started the Dossier then there would have been a report prior to 1 April. Instead, as you can see above, the first report came out on 20 June.

Cortes

The mantra repeated that we live in a world order under the rule of law must surely, if it is to mean anything, mean that some of the people charged with upholding your Constitution as officeholders thereunder in the area of national security are going to have to be put on trial and jailed. Senior people.
A quis custodiet moment?

blue peacock

VV

Fusion GPS was apparently initially hired by billionaire hedge fund manager and uber zionist Paul Singer to do oppo research on several GOP presidential candidates. The Clinton campaign and the DNC took over and paid Fusion GPS through the conduit of Clinton's lawyer Marc Elias. It was then that Christoper Steele was hired to create/fabricate the Trump Dossier.

PT

Sen. Johnson's committee is looking into the "investigation" by the FBI, CIA and DoJ into Hillary's mishandling of top secret information and allegations of Trump's collusion with Russia to steal the election.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-15/fbi-edits-clinton-exoneration-go-far-beyond-what-was-previously-known-comey-mccabe-s

The letter from the Senate Committee concludes; "the edits to Director Comey's public statement, made months prior to the conclusion of the FBI's investigation of Secretary Clinton's conduct, had a significant impact on the FBI's public evaluation of the implications of her actions. This effort, seen in the light of the personal animus toward then-candidate Trump by senior FBI agents leading the Clinton investigation and their apparent desire to create an "insurance policy" against Mr. Trump's election, raise profound questions about the FBI's role and possible interference in the 2016 presidential election and the role of the same agents in Special Counsel Mueller's investigation of President Trump."

Johnson then asks the FBI to answer six questions:

Please provide the names of the Department of Justice (DOJ) employees who comprised the "mid-year review team" during the FBI's investigation of Secretary Clinton's use of a private email server.
Please identify all FBI, DOJ, or other federal employees who edited or reviewed Director Comey's July 5, 2016 statement. Please identify which individual made the marked changes in the documents produced to the Committee.
Please identify which FBI employee repeatedly changed the language in the final draft statement that described Secretary Clinton's behavior as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless." What evidence supported these changes?
Please identify which FBI employee edited the draft statement to remove the reference to the Intelligence Community. On what basis was this change made?
Please identify which FBI employee edited the draft statement to downgrade the FBI's assessment that it was "reasonably likely" that hostile actors had gained access to Secretary Clinton's private email account to merely that than [sic] intrusion was "possible." What evidence supported these changes?
Please provide unredacted copies of the drafts of Director Comey's statement, including comment bubbles, and explain the basis for the redactions produced to date.

PT, I have a question for you and others that know how the intelligence and law enforcement agencies work. Who could do an impartial investigation of those entrusted to enforce the law? Can there be such an investigation when it could uncover a conspiracy at the highest levels of our law enforcement and intelligence agencies to subvert our constitution and the law?

Fred

What did Barack Obama know and when did he know it?

Publius Tacitus

Near impossible. We're headed for a major crisis on this front. FBI and CIA cannot be trusted.

catherine

SOURCES:

(1) a well-placed Russian figure,

(2) an American political figure associated with Donald TRUMP

Ex-Ukrainian President YANUKOVYCH confides directly to PUTIN that he authorised kick-back payments to MANAFORT, as alleged in western media. Assures Russian President however there is no documentary evidence/trail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This alone makes me think someone made up some or a lot of theses reports.

A high placed Russian told them what Yanukovych admitted to Putin?
I don't see Putin relating this tidbit from his Yanukovych conversation to just anyone without except perhaps a person involved in the so called attempt to help Trump and if that was the case why would this Russian risk telling it?

And how would a US political figure close to Trump know of the kick back to Manafort....did Manafort himself tell it?
Did Manafort tell this other politician close to Trump he took a kick back.
If not Manafort to some one, then how did this bit of info get from Putin-Yanukovych-well placed Russia official to a US political figure close to Trump?

I did not vote in this last election as I did not like any of my choices so I have no interest in defending anyone but I am very skeptical of these reports.


catherine

Very well put together article, makes sequence clear. Thanks.

Jack

Publius Tacitus

There's no way that there will be an in-depth and transparent investigation. Too many skeletons in the closet. They'll go to the classic playbook of "classified information" and "we can't disclose sources and methods". In any case how do you investigate the enforcers of the law for lawbreaking?

At best we get a farce like the Owens inquiry in Britain that David Habakkuk has so well described to us here at SST. More likely it will all get swept under the rug and few people get slapped on the wrist. And the story will all be about a few bad apples.

The only scenario that I can see that could shine a spotlight is if some employee with integrity is willing to risk the benefits of their career and leaks more incriminating evidence of the conspiracy implicating Brennan and Clapper and Susan Rice and Loretta Lynch. Even then, the likelihood of the Republicans in Congress mounting any serious investigation are slim as they too are in thrall and even part of the elites that populate the highest levels of government.

fanto

VV,
....there must be incredible pressure to keep facts hidden...
one commenter said in a different thread, that this affair will be squashed because the can of worms is too big - too much of dirty laundry would have to be washed - it is likely that this will happen. IMHO this outcome will form within the "organs of security apparatus" (I use this phrasing in full realization that it resembles phrasing from the former SU) - a polarization among the ´apparatchiks´, who will anonymously keep leaking secret and ultra secret stuff. Maybe this is already happening. This will be (or is) undeclared bureaucratic guerrilla warfare - to detriment of quality of work. I would prefer that the can of worms would finally get opened and the culprits be tried and punished to preserve the rule of law. A lot depends what the Congress does.

james

pat is there a reason my posts aren't being posted?

blue peacock

PT

I'm afraid you are correct. It sure looks impossible for any far reaching investigation into FBI, DoJ, CIA and NSA manipulation of the American people.

An interesting analysis:

http://www.atimes.com/article/moscow-senses-trumps-travails-ending/

"This is truly a Kafkaesque situation. The President’s opponent who lost the 2016 election apparently wields more influence to leverage the Washington establishment. Isn’t Trump paying a heavy price for winning the election? A breathtaking climax is approaching. Trump is unlikely to dismiss Mueller for being a partisan and the latter should have recused himself....

In a nationally televised interview two weeks ago, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev made flattering remarks about Trump:

“To speak about the outward impression, he (Trump) is a well-wishing political figure who wants to establish full-fledged contacts and perceives absolutely everything adequately.” ...Putin openly complimented Trump by commending the US’s economic performance – also during a nationally televised news conference on Thursday. This is when anti-US feelings are running high in Russia. Putin, in particular, could have easily tapped into ‘anti-Americanism’ to boost his re-election bid. But he’s doing the exact opposite.

Both Medvedev and Putin may have signaled (with an eye on Washington) to the Russian people that there is new thinking in the Kremlin regarding the future trajectory of relations with the US.

Indeed, Trump promptly took note of Putin’s flattering remarks and called him on the phone immediately to deliver a personal word of thanks. And this is despite the Trump National Security Advisor HR McMaster’s characterization of Putin’s Russia last weekend as an incorrigible revisionist power that is hell-bent on upending the international order...."

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turcopolier

james

This is not a public forum. I post comments that I think are worthwhile. pl

Anna

"I would prefer that the can of worms would finally get opened and the culprits be tried and punished to preserve the rule of law."
Lance the boil!
Who needs this hapless and totally incompetent bureaucracy that has been undermining the US national security? -- Where these "apparatchiks" have been when Clinton made the highly classified information widely available for all interested? Where the "apparatchiks" have been when Awan family had been surfing Congressional computers -- for years?! Why we still do not know who murdered Seth Rich? Why Morell is not in prison already for his anti-Constitutional, treasonous activities against POTUS?

Anna

Even a child could get this (for a starter):
"Let us pretend that the [Russian] strategy was to try and discredit Clinton...
The Russians would know all about the Uranium One matter where, as even the Clinton-friendly NYT admitted, "a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation". It would be very easy for them to package this as a case of Secretary of State Clinton selling US policy for personal profit. Russian intelligence organisations would have a great deal of true information and would find it easy to manufacture material to fill in any gaps in the story. Presented as a case of corruption and near treason, the story could have done a great deal of damage to her. And, given that it had happened six years earlier, all the details would have been known and ready to be used. It would have been a very powerful attack that even the complaint media would have had difficulty ignoring.
We know, and it's very likely that the Russians did too, that she ran a private e-mail server on which there were thousands and thousands of official communications. The server was very insecure and we can assume that Russia's signals intelligence (and everyone else's, for that matter) had penetrated it. Think of all the real material from that source that could be revealed or twisted to make a scandal. That would make quite a campaign. Further, it is a reasonable assumption that Russian intelligence would have some of the thousands of e-mails that were "bleached". There would be enough material for a months-long campaign of leaks."

J

PT,

VFB's Editor in Chief is the son-in-law of NEOCON Bill Kristol.

J

PT,

One theme that keeps rising in all of this, are their ties that bind, namely Agents of Influence of the Likud and Israeli Government.

Patrick Armstrong

I agree. I think the whole thing, Russian "highly placed" sources and all was completely made up out of whole cloth and a few bits and pieces of rumours. WE have only Steele's word for it about the sources and who would be naive enough to believe him on anything. The purpose was to get the FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. In this respect it was like Watergate except these days, yo udon't need to physically break in. None of this was ever supposed to come out -- every single person in the conspiracy was completely confident that Clinton would be elected. Thus they could be careless confident that the complaisant media and she would cover for them.

J

Colonel, PT, TTG,

Adding to this mess, is now Chicago politicos are trying to bring in the U.N. Peacekeepers to operate on American soil. Give the U.N. an inch, and they'll take a mile.


Who the hell does Cook County Commissioner Richard Boykin think he is directly addressing U.N. authorities to operate on U.S. soil?

Looks like a Logan Act violation by Boykin, that needs to put the Cook County Commissioner in jail.


Boykin asks United Nations for help fighting Chicago violence
http://abc7chicago.com/politics/boykin-to-ask-un-for-help-fighting-chicago-violence/2780474/

Commissioner Suggests U.N. Send Troops To Fight ‘Quiet Genocide’ Of Gun Violence In Chicago
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/12/14/richard-boykin-united-nations-gun-violence/

robt willmann

Patrick Armstrong has an article dated 15 December entitled, "Deconstructing the Almighty Russian Hackers Myth", in which he discusses the issue of alleged "interference" (whatever that means) by Russia in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. He approaches the issue from the perspective of what Russia might have done if it really wanted to damage Hillary Clinton's campaign so that Trump would win--

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/12/15/deconstructing-almighty-russian-hackers-myth.html

Fred

J,

Why oh why is such a fine stronghold of Democratic Party leadership such a haven for crime. What the city really needs is a good community organizer. Or perhaps they should bear the unbearable and vote in some law-and-order Republicans for change they can believe in.

blowback

Even Steele has admitted that he reckons the dossier is 70 -90 % true though he hasn't yet pointed out which bits he thinks ware true. So, almost a third could be made up by the author. Why should anyone take seriously anything he says?

Christopher Steele believes his dossier on Trump-Russia is 70-90% accurate

The Guardian then goes on to explain how much reliance has been placed on his work in the past.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/15/christopher-steele-trump-russia-dossier-accurate

"Between 2014 and 2016, he authored more than a hundred reports on Russia and Ukraine, which were commissioned by private clients but shared widely within the state department and passed across the desks of the secretary of state, John Kerry, and the assistant secretary Victoria Nuland, who led the US response to the annexation of Crimea and the covert invasion of eastern Ukraine."

It's worth noting that The Guardian is fully on board with the Washington Borg, so fully that it should be regarded as one of its London outstations

Frank

I think we'd all love to know the answer to that.

confusedponderer

re "Christopher Steele believes his dossier on Trump-Russia is 70-90% accurate"

So it was "70-90% accurately"? That's as embarassing as it is amusing. For one, that mysterious "70-90% accuracy" does mean 30-10% chance of 'wrongness', and apparently that didn't matter to Steele.

And then, it's like rolling a dice. Perhaps Steele has played to much AD&D? Perhaps he founded a ... D20 rolling dice intelligence unit? When you roll the D20 and get between 12 and 17 that's evidence that Russia (1), Putin (2), Kimmy (3), Saddam (4), Assad (5) or whoever else (6) was behind it. Then roll a D6 to pick who is guilty after the evidence.

Just to make that clear: That that "70-90% accuracy" was completely acceptable to Steele gives a hint in what sort of 'intelligence' he was engaging.

Apparently Steele wasn't doing any intelligence or analysis. He was hired to make a case and that is what he did. Decency or honour didn't obstruct that job, which is another thing that speaks for itself.

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