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22 December 2017

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ked,

(reply to comment number 38)

This is unfortunate. Because if that is how many people feel by election 2018, then the Democratic Party will be able to win many Congressional and other seats with the same old Borg-vetted candidates as before.

optimax

Babak

Blame Abraham Lincoln for America's drug problem. That war created a multitude of wounded addicts and spread as a panacea to the ennui in the middle class. Even without cocaine being infused these days into Coca Cola it is still addictive. As a child I was told about a kid had to drimk a sixpack of Coke a day or he'd throw a tantrum. Saw a kid ironically name Happy scream at his mother for not making him a pitcher of Kool aid. It amazed she didn't wack him good. Animals are prone to addiction, some more than others.

J

PT,

It's simmering around the web this month regarding Julian Assange's March comments that malleable Pence and crew were/are planning an inside coup against Trump. Dunno if the rehash is to make sure it doesn't happen axiom [the more know the less its likelihood], or something maybe really in the works.

Fred

Babak,

"Marriage has been redefined among the Diocletians." That redefining is being done to Americans by the American left, not the Diocletians. The forbidden question is still "who, whom".

Anna

Correct. Ziocons and neo-Nazis have united in Ukraine. This is monumental. So much for the numerous Holocaust museums and for prosecution of anyone questioning the H-business data...
“German police have raided the house of an 86-year-old lady Ursula Haverbeck, after she publicly questioned the Holocaust story:” http://yournewswire.com/elderly-german-woman-arrested-for-questioning-holocaust/
“German-born Australian Frederic Toben was arrested in transit at Heathrow airport … Toben, having participated in Ahmadinejad’s Holocaust “conference” ... already served seven months in a German prison as a denier.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Fredrick_Töben
In comparison, in the Kagans-liberated Ukraine, “residents celebrated the 70th anniversary of the German invasion “as a popular festival, where parents with small children waived flags to re-enactors in SS uniforms... … extreme right-wing deputies in the Lviv district “renamed a street from the Soviet-era name Peace Street to instead carry the name of the Nachtigall [Nightingale] Battalion, a Ukrainian nationalist formation involved in the mass murder of Jews in 1941: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/28/nazi-roots-of-ukraines-conflict/
The neo-Nazi supporters of the US policies in Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRrf1QD6sEI
The WWII veterans attacked in Ukraine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtOmdA5SCiU

Anna

The Democratic Party has lost moral compass long time ago. The ongoing Russiangate saga has exposed the illegal meddling of the FBI into the political process in the US, namely, in taking sides against the US citizenry' wishes. And yet the DP operatives are in full and loud support of the disgraced (treasonous?) McCabe: “FBI Deputy Director McCabe "retiring" after "Trump insurance policy" debacle:” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-23/fbi-deputy-director-mccabe-retiring-after-trump-insurance-policy-debacle

Anna

True. But not the Saklers' family; there was a special provision protecting the deadly profiteers.

Anna

"Genrikh Yagoda, head of the NKVD, was just one of the Jews in the Bolshevik government (which was 80% Jewish) that helped perpetrate the Holodomor against 7 million Ukrainians, and helped to murder 30 million Soviet citizens in total during Jewish Bolshevik rule. (99.9%+ of the victims being gentiles.)"
Add also the name of Lazar Kaganovitch, an Ukrainian Jew, who was the main organizer of the Holodomor (the murderer lived into old age in Moscow) and the name of Naftaly Frenkel, the organizer of GULAG-- "Of all those who helped devise and perfect the slave labor system of the Gulag, special mention must be made of Naftaly Aronovich Frenkel:" https://tarbaby.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/gulags-frenkels-efficiency-system/
“Kaganovich was one of a small group of Stalin's top sadists pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929. He became Stalin's butcher of Christian Russians during the late 1920s and early 1930s when the Kremlin launched its war against the kulaks (small landowners who were Christians) and implemented a ruthless policy of land collectivization. The resulting state-organized forced famine, was a planned genocide and killed 7,000,000 Ukrainians between 1932 and 1933, and inflicted enormous suffering on the Soviet Central Asian republic of Kazakhstan.” http://www.rense.com/general11/stal.htm
http://real-life-villains.wikia.com/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich

mongo

Hi Babak,

"Are you smoking more now but enjoying it less?"

This is a verbatim quote from an ad for Camel cigarettes, whose manufacturers are famous (infamous?) in retrospect for other public assertions like "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette." The comparison to Big Tobacco is apt here -- now that awareness of the harmful effects of smoking are ubiquitous, has the incidence of smoking increased or decreased?

@Comment 24,

Gun manufacturers are quite different, unless you can find one for me that presents them to the public as anything other than a weapon.

@Comment 26,

Hi Fred,

They are bound under the Controlled Substances Act. Have a look here for details:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/928481/download

Statistically speaking, I would say that the probability that they were unaware of this law is zero.

Babak Makkinejad

Stalin was a very prescient man, he saw the war coming and proceeded to rapidly industrialize USSR - a very popular policy at the time - paying for it by expropriating the agricultural surplus of rural USSR.
I do not believe that the famine in Ukraine was a premeditated act of genocide, nor do I think that the estimates of the numbers of the dead to be reliable.
Had Stalin - and indeed the Soviet Government - not undertaken that brutal policy, USSR would have almost certainly been defeated by the Third Reich and the Third Reich would be with today - as a legitimate and respected member of the "International Community" of "White people" and then Slavs would be agriculturalist servants of the New Improved Diocletian civilization.
In regards to Kagnovitch, he and many other Jews among Bolsheviks were executed during the Stalinist Purges; was it another case of Christians avenging themselves on Jews - I wonder.
I must confess that I never understood the Jewish hostility to USSR, USSR almost certainly saved what was left of European Jewry, she should have a place of honor on Yad va Shim - I should think.

Babak Makkinejad

The rot is across the entire civilization; please see below:

http://www.pewforum.org/2017/08/08/gay-marriage-around-the-world-2013/

And then there is this:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/23/two-heterosexual-irish-men-marry-to-avoid-inheritance-tax-on-house


Bobo

Your right. I do not know McCabe from Adam but how he could not see the Conflict in his wife running for office and he continuing at the FBI in a senior position is astounding. What's more astounding is his superior or the IG not seeing it and stepping in tells us things are rotten in the upper echelons of that agency. There should be no argument on this but there is which is sad.
I'm finding it entertaining that the declared PIGS are now coming out the wash attempting to regain there old positions. Seems that Old Hen (used to have nice legs) at MSNBC has been pushing her pig who has been washed but that reincarnation will have to be rinsed before she can push the spin cycle again. Yes, there are limited morals there.

Babak Makkinejad

Identical or very close analogues of psychotropic molecules exist in animal and plant life. Their receptors certainly exist in human brain, and very likely in other animals with a central nervous system.

But to your point, men cannot hold their drugs - individually and collectively. This much seems to be an empirical fact. There has been historical examples of widespread usage of drugs in certain societies; Safavid Persia, Imperial China. Neither of them ended well.

I think the Islamic injunction against consumption of alcohol must be considered as a defense mechanism against a presently forgotten empirical reality in which Arabs could not hold their liquor.

The European peoples - between Urals to the Atlantic Ocean - have been using alcohol for a longer period of time and likely have developed physiological as well as social and familial mechanisms to deal with drunkenness to a certain degree.

But they have only been partly successful as such things as Alcoholics Anonymous, or the sight of so many skimpy-clad young women passed-out or vomiting in the streets of London attest.

I understand that the Doctrine of Political Liberty is being misused to justify any and all of the whims of the individual. That is why I am willing to meet the advocates of Hedonism half way, through the artifice of Freedonia.

Freedonia serves the excellent purpose of exposing the disingenousness and speciousness of the arguments of Hedonists: that they crucially need everyone else to live on the proverbial straight and narrow to essentially subsidize their hedonism.

Babak Makkinejad

Hi Mongo:

Another specious argument.

Some drugs, if you will, are now too entrenched to do anything about.

Aspirin, due to its manifold actions in human body, would not receive FDA approval toady as an Over-the-Counter drug; but it cannot be removed from the market either.

For Aspirin and for Nicotine, it is too late to do anything - but that does not imply that we should do nothing against Cannabis, Opioids, Meta-amphetamines etc.

But really, all of this discussion is dancing around the central issue; you guys want to be free to indulge in your appetites and whims, all the while expecting us - on the straight & narrow path - to come in and either bail you out or to clean up after your mess.

That is why no one wants to live in Freedonia - they cannot leech from the others and continue to live.

Babak Makkinejad

You are so right.

We need to go after all of them.

But I think one must admit that some importance ought to be attached to the matter of individual choice.

Robert

Being prescribed painkillers by your Doctor, and paid for by Health Insurance providers is very different. Patients are assured of their safety, necessity, and told that they are the only way to manage pain. They are given a schedule to take them on, and refill prescriptions. That is how people become addicted. Do you think the Drug companies don't have that data? General Motors knew for years that they sold cars with a ignition design defect that resulted in hundreds of deaths and injuries. Would you blame the people who bought and drove those cars? At what point do companies have a responsibility for the products they sell and market?

blue peacock

Bobo

McCabe's wife received a $700,000 campaign contribution by Clinton surrogate McCauliffe. And McCabe supervises the Clinton mishandling of classified information investigation. We saw how the original charge of "gross negligence" suddenly became a legal non-entity of "extremely careless". Then you have Strzok & his paramor, FBI attorney Lisa Page discussing "insurance policy" in McCabe's office during the election.

This guy is a corrupt, partisan hack who attempted a coup on a legitimately elected POTUS. Why is he being allowed to hang on to collect his pension? He should be fired and prosecuted and made an example of.

This is exactly the problem in DC. If you get high enough you can act with impunity as long as you are a Borgist. From Clapper to Petraeus and McCabe, Strzok, Baker, Comey at the FBI and Ohr, Lynch and who else at DoJ, at best they get a slap on the wrist. But Flynn gets nailed and everyone lower on the totem pole gets crucified for the slightest infraction. How can any ordinary citizen believe in the rule of law, when the law enforcers have proven to be malevolent law breakers?

rjj

lest we forget.....

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Caffeine_and_adenosine.svg/250px-Caffeine_and_adenosine.svg.png

16-17th tea and coffee drinking fad coincided with an outbreak of creativity, didn't it? withdrawal takes about a week. Then there is chocolatl.

I think sugar was originally considered a drug. It is certainly habit forming.

rjj

that was a response to BabMak @ post 92.

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J,

( Reply to comment 82)

I remember commenting some months ago that I regarded Pence as the rattlesnake in Trump's sleeping bag, the scorpion in the toe of Trump's boot.

Pence isn't "impeachment insurance". Pence is "impeachment incentive". Pence knows it and is counting on it, in my fact-free purely intuitive opinion.

Publius Tacitus

Anna,
Your comments carry a stench of anti-semitism. The fact that some Jews in Russia were Bolsheviks does not therefore indict it as a phenomena of Judaism. And your claim that "80%" of the Bolsheviks were Jewish. Wrong. You are quoting a speech made by Putin at the dedication of the Schneerson Jewish Museum. He said that in the very first government of the Soviet Union that 80 to 85% were Jewish but he noted that their religion played no part in their bad decisions.
So, what is your point?

different clue

Babak Makkinejad,

(reply to comment 75)

Thank you for responding to my comment. And yet . . . and yet . . . your comment does not actually provide the fact-cased step-by-step description of how the Sixties youth turn to marijuana and the hallucinogens led to the current addiction crisis of a totally different group of people to a totally different group of drugs. All your comment has really offered is the same unbacked assertion as before.

Could you at least help me with an specific answer to one particular question: what taboos did the Sixties youth-use of marijuana and the hallucinogens break . . . that extensive mainstream American use of alcohol during Prohibition had not broken 30 years before?

Fred

Babak,

"...you guys want to be free to indulge in your appetites and whims, all the while expecting us -... - to come in and either bail you out or to clean up after your mess."

That's a very apt summary of a couple of generations of Americans.

J

POTUS Trump has just given U.S. a Christmas Present that has many jumping up and down for joy. POTUS is continuing to drain the swamp and this draining affects Bill and Hillary's finances, namely their big payola they have been getting from Bill Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich:

Backgrounder:

https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/after-pardoning-criminal-marc-rich-clintons-made-millions-off-friends/

Now back to the present, the new White House Executive Order, in its Annex lists an individual by the name of Dan Gertler an Israeli whose criminal enterprises, who acquired a fortune through shady (aka corrupt) deals in the Democratic Republic of the Congo is listed in the Annex of the E.O.. Gerler was also exposed in the Paradise papers as Glencore secretly donated millions to Gertler to act as a middleman for DRC deals. Glencore former leader of the firm Marc Rich fled the U.S. in 1983 after being indicted for a host of charges including sanctions-busting, fraud, tax evasion, arms dealing. Rich's family were major donors to Bill Clinton, Rich later pardoned by Clinton in the final hours of his presidency.

Another Clinton Foundation type listed in the E.O. Annex, Gulnara Karimova organized Clinton Foundation fundraiser in Monaco trying to acquaint herself will Bill and gain favor with Hillary.

Continuing on, the E.O. Annex lists Sergey Kusiuk, a Ukraine police commander who engineered the Obama-Clinton coup against the Ukraine. Kusiuk hired Georgian merc snipers that fired on police and protestors Nov. 30 2013.

When POTUS promised U.S. he was going to drain the swamp, he really meant it.

LOL Love it when a plan comes together.

 jld

Huh?
Aspirin as a drug which should be "removed from the market"!
Are you sure that you have not (inadvertantly?) imbibed on some pretty hard stuff?

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