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16 November 2017

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Grazhdanochka

The 'Dirty Raqqa Secret' of course is not anything unprecedented in this War (R+6 has long suggested that ISIS has been tolerated in its movements so long as they go in the right direction, furthermore that some Withdrawls took Place or 'Uniform Switches' of various Tribes) - It does however come awkwardly after such a big deal was made by the Coalition about the Syrian Governments transfer Deal of ISIS Fighters/Families from the Lebanese Border Region to Dayr ez Zaur...

As for Putin Derangement Syndrome let us Remember:

Russia has been responsible for Weaponizing - Refugees, Football Hooligans (Read: Special Forces), Social Media, Energy, Misinformation, History to name a few....

Somehow the Government is able to do all of this, in addition to keeping Thousands of Soldiers in Ukraine and Syria - Losing thousands more Casualties in the process that the others have to Incinerate in Mobile Crematoriums but it still having enough ready to threaten the rest of Europe.. Meanwhile the rest of its Citizenry either are working in Troll Farms, Protesting or battling Corruption/Alcohol..

Still despite all this and an Economy that does not produce anything - it has the expertise to switch a US Election via a Media Campaign that saw roughly the Investment Ratio of Approximately 1:40.000 versus the other US Candidates.

What a Time to be alive!

b

Thanks Patrick, one correction. Abu Kamal is not liberated yet. Syrian forces came into the "empty" towncenter, were ambushed and mauled. A new attempt on the town will be made in a day or two.

@Grazhdanochka

I once made a collection of "Russia weaponizes ..." stories. According to U.S. media Russia's arsenal includes nail-guns, robotic cockroaches and Jedi mind tricks
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/03/russia-is-weaponizing-everything.html

Walker

"Putin's lying machine: Revealed, how Russia's spewing out ruthless propaganda... ".

Any time I see the word "spewing" I stop reading.

james

thanks patrick... one interesting development in the propaganda dept was the release of the wrong photos from russia on the developments in around abu kamal... at this moment abu kamal is looking like where usa-russia really lock heads.. http://tass.com/defense/975642

Anna

"Russia has been responsible for Weaponizing..."
Amazing. Is this voice coming directly from Israel (irritated by the perspective of the end of slaughter in Syria) or this is a feeble paraphrase of the vacuous speech of May? http://www.voltairenet.org/article198

@Madderhatter67

Walker

That daily mail thing was nuts.

The comment section was interesting. All spectrum's of society awake now.

Richardstevenhack

"Crowdstrike and Fusion GPS are the ur-sources"

Actually, while it is possible that CrowdStrike's boss is behind the "DNC hack" scam, I think it equally or more likely that it originated from some Ukrainian-American DNC/Clinton campaign workers, specifically Alexandra Chalupa.

As I recall, she was one of the first to claim being "hacked by Russians" as far back as May 3, 2016.

Exclusive: Suspected Russian hack of DNC widens — includes personal email of staffer researching Manafort
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-hacked-emails-of-dnc-oppo-researcher-point-to-russians-and-wider-penetration-154121061.html

If anyone would be interested in covering up the DNC leak by blaming it on "Russian hacking", it would be a Ukrainian with direct connections to the Ukrainian government, Ukrainian right-wing political factions and Ukrainian hacker collectives. I think she originated and proposed the entire scam to the DNC and Clinton campaign and they then brought in CrowdStrike to 'certify" it.

Patrick Armstrong

There's a definite Ukrainian connection there. I can't find the stuff George Eliason has done on the subject but he's been on to it from Day 1. What I meant was that the Crowstrike "analysis" -- all that nonsense about crack Russian hackers putting a Pole's name in there -- was the official source. When and where exactly the idea of covering up the fix by inventing the Russia hacked it and gave it to WikiLeaks story originated we may never learn.

Cameron

Mr. Armstrong, you reference the Clinton campaign hiring a "foreign ex-spy." Are you referring to Christopher Steele, and, if so, why do you not find him credible? I am always suspicious of stories I read in the Guardian, but he does sound like the real thing in the article I read.

JamesT

I was in Syria about 2 years before the Arab Spring, in a Damascus apartment with a Syrian guy I had befriended. We were sitting there, talking, playing with his kids, and he was absentmindedly flipping channels on his TV. Click, click, click ... and up comes CNN. I was dumfounded. I said "Dude - you get CNN???". He looked at me like I was simple and said "Of course".

pantaraxia

“On Sunday Saakashvili led a march demanding Poroshenko's impeachment. Couldn't make this stuff up.”

More stuff you couldn’t make up.

Another False Flag Terror ADMISSION: Snipers In the Ukraine “Protests”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-17/another-false-flag-terror-admission-snipers-ukraine-%E2%80%9Cprotests%E2%80%9D

“Italy’s 11th largest newspaper – Il Giornale – reported on an admission by several of the snipers

Revazishvilli’s confessions and two other Georgians … reveal a different and disconcerting truth. … Revazishvilli and his two companions …are a former member of the security services of former Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili and two former militants of his party.”


It seems Saakashvili was a player in the Maidan revolution after all. This certainly gives Poroshenko ammunition to counter Saakashvili’s so-called anti-corruption crusade. Hopefully they will destroy each other. ( So much for my long-standing suspicions that it was Kolomoisky who was behind the Maidan massacre.)

Patrick Armstrong

Ivan Katchanovsky in Ottawa has been on to the story from the start and is very interested in these latest revelations and is tracking them down. Can't immediately find his original paper and investigation but here's a reference from a couple of years ago. http://russeurope.hypotheses.org/3054
I know him, he is extraordinary thorough and if he says it was a false flag you can take it to the bank. Don't forget Ashton-Paet conversation. In short this has all be out there for years but the Italian documentary is a real breakthrough.
The other tie in is some of the snipers were from Lithuania and that gives us a link to Vilnius snipers of 1991 (date?)and that nasty little regime.

Patrick Armstrong

I don't find him credible because what he produced is not. The Russians compromised Trump years before he said he would run for Pres at a time when nobody would have given him a chance?

Patrick Armstrong

It's just a load of crap. that's all.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/report-fusion-gps-founder-never-even-verified-dossier-claims-peddling-document-reporters/
And Remember, none of this stuff was ever supposed to become public. The Steele garbage was the way to do a modern Watergate breakin.

The Twisted Genius

Patrick Armstrong,

There are plenty of reasons to doubt Steele and his "dodgy dossier," but the reason you cited isn't one of them. Trump first expressed interest in the presidency in 1988. He ran for the Reform Party candidacy in 1999. Oddly enough, Roger Stone was involved in that early campaign. He also considered running in 2012. And I'm sure you're familiar with the Soviet and Russian intel services penchant for grooming and recruiting agents early and having the patience to wait for them to grow into a position of influence. I'm not saying Trump was recruited or even developed. I seriously doubt it. I would think Trump would be notoriously difficult to handle, but it would have been prudent of RIS to keep an eye on him.

Patrick Armstrong

Golly! Just imagine what they've got on the Clintons.

SmoothieX12

Another thing of note is how the size of single remaining Project 941 (NATO Typhoon, in reality it is Akula) strategic missile submarine which nears its obsolescence and serves mostly as a test bed for new SLBMs relates to Russian propaganda. Daily Mail and its bright graphics somehow failed to elaborate properly on that issue. In the end, newest Borey-class SSBNs (Boomers) are way more dangerous that this largest submarine. But then, they don't call them Daily Fail in UK for nothing. Comments section, however, gives some reasons for hope.

Anna

Then how the incurious George the Lesser had become a US president, with his stunning biography? By the way, his father was the former Director of the CIA.

Seamus Padraig

I think she was being sarcastic.

Seamus Padraig

Any time the WMSM starts talking about Putin or Russia, I spew.

Seamus Padraig

I just found out about the Sakashivilli/Maidan allegations yesterday. While I was sure that the Maidan shootings were a false-flag from the start, I was surprised that Georgians were involved. I had always assumed that the snipers were from Pravy Sektor or some similar group. I assumed that's why their 'Führer', Sashko Bily, was murdered two weeks after the coup - to protect that secret.

Still, it's hard to see who really profits from this. Sakashivilli, of course, loses; but the Kiev régime hardly benefits, since they now have to admit that what we were all saying from the start was true: the Maidan shootings were a false-flag.

Seamus Padraig

Back in the Middle Ages, we had the devil as the all-purpose explanation for everything that goes wrong. Now we have Russia instead.

David Habakkuk

All,

One useful thing to have out of Sir Robert Owen’s farce of an ‘Inquiry’ into the Litvinenko affair is that one is provided with transcripts of much of the output of what at times I came to think could have been renamed the ‘Berezovsky Broadcasting Corporation.’

The degree of credulity with which claims by that appalling figure and his associates were accepted in Britain, and to a somewhat lesser extent the United States, were received, beggars belief.

And it now seems likely that a great deal of the ‘narrative’ in these was shaped by Christopher Steele, in collaboration with associates of Berezovsky, in particular the U.S.-based Alex Goldfarb, a particularly creepy person who was I think the brains behind the operation, insofar as there were any.

Here, the April 2007 study ‘The Litvinenko File’ by the former BBC Moscow Correspondent Martin Sixsmith is particularly interesting. It tells us that Goldfarb’s grandfather had been KGB station chief in San Francisco from 1941 to 1945, and had been shocked to find that – as a reward for his attempts to subvert the constitutional order in the United States – when he returned to Russia he had been arrested by the NKVD as part of the ‘Doctor’s Plot’ hysteria.

If one scratches beneath the surface, one can see that a transnational ‘information operations’ network was always involved, acting in support of a range of different projects for ‘régime change.’

A particularly interesting item is a transcript sent out from the Cabinet Office of a 16 December 2006 BBC Radio 4 programme entitled ‘The Litvinenko Mystery’, presented by Tom Mangold. The ‘subject’ is described by the official responsible as ‘Investigation in to the Death of Alexander Litvinenko – Major Yuri Shvets & Bobby Levinson.’

(See https://www.litvinenkoinquiry.org/files/2015/04/HMG000513wb.pdf )

This tells a pathetic story of how Litvinenko was forced to turn an honest penny by ‘due diligence’ work because, alone and without means of subsistence in a strange country, he was faced by ht e appalling prospect of having himself and his wife and young son completely without means of support. Supposedly, the extremism of his allegations against Putin had been too much even for Berezovsky, and he had been largely cut loose by his erstwhile oligarch patron.


That he was at the time being paid a steady baseline salary by Steele et al was of course not admitted, any more than the possibility that the private security companies for whom he worked were actually in greater or lesser extent ‘fronts’, as Goldfarb’s grandfather might have said: with one hell of a lot of money to pay out to those who served the ‘agendas’ of those funding them.

The notion that Litvinenko's supposed impecuniousness explains anything is patently, the product of the kind of ‘information operations’ – which always relied upon a large element of ‘kitsch’ – in which people like Goldbarb’s grandfather specialised, and in which Steele and his like have been all too happy to join them.

This was part of a ‘narrative’ in which Steele, Goldfarb and those who swallowed their disinformation in the ‘MSM’, collaborated. In shaping this, Litvinenko worked with the former KGB operative Shvets (the name, my Galician friends have told me, means ‘tailor’ in Ukrainian) and the former FBI operative Levinson – neither of whom, of course, had any involvement with Western intelligence agencies – in unearthing devastating information about the links of a figure close to Putin to organised crime.

The figure in question then, supposedly, commissioned Lugovoi and Kovtun to put polonium in Litvinenko’s tea.

To see who the figures involved the Mangold programme really were, and discover some linkages worth investigating, all one needs to do are a few basic Google checks, such as ‘Yuri Shvets Melnichenko’, ‘Robert Levinson CIA’, ‘Robert Levinson Mogilevich’, ‘Trump Mogilevich’, ‘Mangold Mogilevich’, ‘Mangold anthrax’, ‘Mangold David Kelly’, ‘Mueller Comey anthrax’.

As to the targets of the ‘dossiers’ produced by Litvinenko, Shvets and al, they were, unsurprisingly, those of Putin’s associates who had been put in charge when major industries of Russia were wrested out of the control of Berezovsky and Khodorkovsky: Viktor Ivanov and Igor Sechin.

How people in MI6 were stupid enough to get involved in a kind of ‘bare knuckles fight’ between Putin and his ‘siloviki’ associates, and the oligarchs who would not accept the – actually very attractive – terms he offered them – has long baffled me.

When however it was revealed that Christopher Steele was actually a superannuated Cambridge University students’ union politician, much fell into place. But, to explain these people, and the utter contempt which not just Steele, but Sir Alex Younger, Sir Richard Dearlove, and Sir John Scarlett inspire in me, is difficult.

FB Ali

TTG,

As an interested observer, I much prefer the versions of Patrick Armstrong, Publius Tacitus, David Habakkuk, et al.

I'm afraid you seem to have got a rather morbid fascination with this whole "Russia" thing, and keep plugging it all the time. No one is disputing the fact that all intelligence services try to discover information about other countries. And, where they can, influence their policies.

Why not just leave it at that instead of going on insisting that we have to accept your version of what happened at the time of the US election? Take a break!

turcopolier

FB Ali

Although generally supportive of your comments to TTG, I must say that before 9/11 the only US intelligence service that sought to influence other governments was the CIA and they were an exception because of the unfortunate inclusion of covert action among their statutory missions. pl

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