"The imprisoned, among whom are billionaire and Kingdom Holding chairman Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, Al Tayyar Travel Group founder Nasser bin Aqeel al-Tayyar and chairman of builder Red Sea International construction company Amr al-Dabbagh, are accused of money laundering, bribery, extorting officials and misappropriation of public office.
Interestingly, the Saudi authorities have announced that all economical assets seized from those found guilty will be confiscated as state property. Even a no-fly list has reportedly been drawn up, and security forces have been deployed in order to prevent private jet owners from leaving the kingdom." AMN
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Let's not kid ourselves. What the West calls "corruption" in business and government is the very basis of life in Saudi Arabia along with the the Wahhabi version of Islam, a version that resembles a bug frozen for all time in amber.
A lot of these business people and their companies (same thing normally in SA where true public companies are rare) will have long ago offshored much of their assets. Foreign bank accounts, dummy chains of shell holding companies leading to a pot of gold at the end of the chain, Foreign law firms that manage hidden assets as in the the Paradise Papers, these are all methods.
It is significant that MbS has imprisoned these people in a luxury hotel rather than putting them in house arrest where they could attempt to arrange to be smuggled out of the big sand box. He has also not put them in hotel style royal guest houses where they might have connections among the government people who run them. IMO MbS intends to beggar some of these people and geld the rest, figuratively speaking.
This purge of his possible enemies and rivals was well prepared. Key to preventing a counter-coup was the removal and replacements of the heads of the security services and the silencing of the Wahhabi ulema.' I earlier thought that MbS might act against the senior Shia ulema' but that may not be true. He has been engaged in "preaching" toleration of other than Wahhabism. Quelle horreur!! In this circumstance the Shia clergy may see MbS as a friend and he may leave them alone.
Might one someday see a church in Saudi Arabia like those in many other majority Muslim countries? Saudi Arabia as I have personally known it has been a theocratically driven police state. When I was DATT there I was repeatedly asked by attache colleagues to smuggle Filipino, Pakistani and other Christians into the secret Christmas services held in the US Embassy. I was glad to do so.
MbS has abolished the arrest powers of the Mutawi'iin, the religious "decency" police. These are the worthless, scrawny old bastards in short thawb who wander the streets beating women whose behavior they do not like. For that alone I am favorably inclined to him.
Unfortunately, he has foreign policy delusions of grandeur in which he is making common cause with redheiferland and the gaudy world of Trump Administration delusions about the Middle East. pl
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/riyadh-freezes-1200-saudi-bank-accounts/
Peter AU
I am hard to read? Good. If you are easy to read you are probably a little simple mended and unable to grasp the many facets of any situation. As for the "little brown people," and your attitude toward them , you seem inordinately proud of your ability to treat someone of another culture as an equal. I will say again, the tendency to treat people of other cultures as though they were born without original sin is quite repulsive and very paternalistic. The desire to believe that they are somehow better people thn Europeans is just silly and extremely dangerous. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 12 November 2017 at 08:19 AM
PA
You are painfully "pink" (white)? What a pretentious ass you are. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 12 November 2017 at 02:55 PM
Mark Logan,
Many years ago I once confessed that I found trying to understand the Middle East like trying to understand a game of checkers where the squares were moving around as well as the checkers.
If MBS is doing what you say, then he is artfully juggling several "flaming bobcats on meth". If so, he must be very careful. Because if even only one of those flaming bobcats on meth which he is juggling turns around and claw-chews his face off; that would spoil his whole day.
Posted by: different clue | 12 November 2017 at 03:25 PM
Pacifica Advocate,
I am not AU, but I once saw someone who did indeed seem very close to black-leather black. He was working in a Grand Middle-Class Hotel I was once at a conference in, and his face had some symmetrical scar marks on it.
I think they were tribal identification scars but I wasn't about to ask.
Posted by: different clue | 12 November 2017 at 03:28 PM
Different Clue
I have worked with people from Kerala who were black as anthracite. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 12 November 2017 at 04:39 PM
Not thinking people other than Europeans are all good, rather that where religion or ideology does not interfere people are pretty much the same all over. Honest and dishonest and so forth.
A few years back, my 86 year old father was nearly killed because a do gooder judge believed that jailing violent young aboriginal men on made them worse. He had been in and out of jail since age seventeen, always committing another violent assault when let out on.
When he attacked my father he was 25 and it was only two hours after being released on bail for hitting and breaking the cheek of a sixty year old women.
Something about living in that part of Australia for couple of years did affect me in some way. Perhaps it was seeing the incompatibility of two different cultures and their laws that cannot merge.
I worked there as a contractor and when we could not reach a mutually agreeable deal for the next year, I left.
MBS - ? He is relatively young, is in a bit of a mess in Yemen, but from what I read here, seems to have put himself in a very strong position in SA. Remains to be seen if he is a survivor like Erdogan.
Posted by: Peter AU | 12 November 2017 at 05:39 PM
The women are quite comely.
There are Iranians who are as black as soot in Southern Iran. One who was traveling in North related how children would run their fingers across his skin to see if the color would come off.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 12 November 2017 at 05:46 PM
Peter AU
" .. people are pretty much the same all over." Well, that is sad. It means that you are just another dummmy do-gooder. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 12 November 2017 at 06:13 PM
"It means that you are just another dummmy do-gooder. pl"
You may well be right. Having a conscience that doesn't allow me to do some things is a major hassle at times.
Posted by: Peter AU | 12 November 2017 at 07:00 PM
Thinking on it a bit more, apart from my family, my conscience does not push me to go out and do what I perceive as good things. It only prevents me from doing some things.
Posted by: Peter AU | 12 November 2017 at 07:46 PM
Colonel,
racism is in all races - sounds trivial. But anecdotes help to illustrate - I met Sri-Lankan doctors who were as black as tar, but would be upset when one called them "Black". Chinese look down their noses on Caucasians , Germans have famously little regard for "Polen, Juden und Zigeuner".. etc etc etc.
Posted by: fanto | 12 November 2017 at 11:08 PM
What I do find exceptional is the response to treating another like a normal human which I think is why it affected me in some way
I saw more racism in that part of the country than I had realised existed. Then on the opposite spectrum, in the comment section of an article on aboriginal massacres at a university site, the politically correct offence that was taken when relating a story to do with history in the same words as used by the Aboriginal man.
Posted by: Peter AU | 13 November 2017 at 12:36 AM
Appears that Bandar was one of those snagged by MbS
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-10/saudi-deep-state-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-among-those-arrested-purge-report
Posted by: J | 13 November 2017 at 06:34 AM
Col. Lang,
Didn't Israel assassinate Rafik?
Posted by: Cee | 13 November 2017 at 08:09 AM
Ali Ali Shihabi at the Arabia Foundation explains the current shakeup in Saudi Arabia, not primarily as a consolidation of power, but as a means to drain the Saudi swamp.
https://fabiusmaximus.com/2017/11/13/ali-shihabi-explains-events-in-saudi-arabia/
What are your views?
Posted by: SR Wood | 13 November 2017 at 08:53 AM