" ... the Iraqi military announced that elite units had been "re-deployed" at the K1 base, about 5km (3 miles) north-west of the city of Kirkuk, and that other troops had taken control of the nearby Leylan area, the Baba Gurgur oilfield, and the headquarters of the North Oil Company.
The military also said troops had taken control of a military airport, police station, power plant and several industrial areas, as well as key bridges, roads, junctions.
The Kurdistan Region Security Council accused Baghdad of launching an "unprovoked attack" and said the Peshmerga would "continue to defend Kurdistan, its peoples and interests".
Peshmerga had destroyed five US-made Humvees used by the Popular Mobilisation, a paramilitary force dominated by Iran-backed Shia militias, it added." BBC
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Iraq was created as a by-product of the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War One (1914-1918). The present territory of Iraq had been ruled by the Ottoman Turks for several hundred years. At Versailles the British were given what is now Iraq as a "mandatory territory" with the intention that the area be made independent at some point in the future. Britain decided to cobble together something called the "Kingdom of Iraq" in this mandatory area. There was no Iraqi People when this state was created. There was no group that thought of itself as Iraqi. There were a number of distinct populations that had little in common; Arab Sunni Muslims, Arab Shia Muslims, Kurdish Sunni Muslims, Kurdish Shia Muslims, Kurdish Yaziidis, Turcomans, Assyrian Christians, Chaldean Christians and Jews. None of these groups particularly liked each other. Nor did they like the Hashemite prince that the British installed as their king.
Soon after Iraqi independence was granted in 1925 revolts against the central government's authority began. Kurdish revolts, Arab Revolts, etc. Kurdish and Arab revolts had actually begun before 1925 in the period of direct British rule. The British had actually exiled the Barzani of the day to India. The Kurds of NE Iraq have been more or less in some form of revolt since 1925. There have been periods when either the Talabani or Barzani Kurds have formed temporary alliances with the Baghdad government usually in an effort to screw the other major Kurdish faction but in general the pattern of resistance to Arab rule has been persistent.
The history of the State of Iraq from 1925 until the destruction of the state by the US in 2003 was characterized by a continual effort by the various Baghdad government to create an Iraqi national identity that subsumed the various groups that had happened to be in what became Iraq's sovereign territory. IMO the emergence of Iraqi Man was still a work in progress when US invasion halted the process.
A new Iraqi state emerged under US occupation and covert Iranian tutelage. This state is dominated by Shia Arabs. IMO if a choice must be made in the future between the US as a sponsor or Iran the Shia government will turn away from the US and face east. The Borgists believe that the US should have refused to withdraw its forces from Iraq and that the US will be able to refuse a future Iraqi demand for US withdrawal. It is a big mistake to think the US could do that. A refusal would inevitably lead to another country wide guerrila rebellion against the US.
In the present circumstance the US has encouraged both the KRG and the Baghdad government to think that it is our one true love. Since these two historic actors have mutually exclusive and deeply held goals and desires, that was a very foolish thing for the US to do.
Will there be a secessionist war? Probably there will be such a war. The oil in the north of Iraq certainly exacerbates the crisis since the new Kurdish state would need the income to survive.
As Churchill said. "just one damned thing after another." pl
b
I don't have a problem with any of that but I have to write for a more general audience. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 October 2017 at 04:37 PM
outthere
I should have included that. It strengthen my case for the structural instability of Iraq. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 October 2017 at 04:39 PM
mike
You left the Confederates out of your list but they too were crushed in the end. In the case of both our wars for independence foreign intervention was crucial. You either had it or you failed. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 October 2017 at 04:41 PM
One thing that puzzles me is the inconsistent position of the 'woke' anti-imperialist left on the Kurdish Question.
Whereas they are always hopping mad about 'Israeli neo-colonialism', in the same breath they will adamantly support mini-metropoles like Baghdad, themselves the creation of Greater Metropoles (London, Paris). So a 'brown' imperialist group is backed against a (perceived) 'white' imperialist force. Pot kettle black. Sorry Kurds, Assyrians, Druze, et el. The vulgar anti-antisemitism of white leftists (who are all about anti-imperalism providing you do it their way) comes before your right to self-determination.
The specious argument I've heard from the likes of SyrianGirl is that Israel wants weak and divided statelets in order to achieve regional hegemony. But arbitrarily defined post-colonial states like Iraq and Syria are already divided against themselves. It was always the USSR who turned these 'countries' into somewhat credible threats to Israel. Absent a powerful 'big boy' friend, their incoherent demographic composition rendered them vulnerable to destabilization. One of the reasons Iran wields real power that Israel fears is that its led by a dominant Persian-Shia majority. Were it not for the interventions of external powers with coherent majorities (Iran and Russia), the Syrian Arab Republic would have been wiped off the map. Some resistance. States like Egypt and Jordan remain united but are more or less on board with Israel. Thus, there is no necessary correlation between the preservation of the post-colonial division of the ME and the curbing of Zionist ambitions.
If the dreaded division of the ME happened according to that map floating around which concentrates each ethno-religious groups into a single state, I would wager the result would be more powerful and independent states who might very well align against Israeli expansion. Good fences make good neighbors after all. Sure there would be a few teething problems (border wars) and a bit of ethnic cleansing, but a structure would emerge from the violence. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. The other option is eternal breaking of eggs and no omelette.
The final line of defence is that this scheme has been glossed by various Western think tanks. Apparently, this automatically imbues the idea with an inherent evil. 'If America wants it must be bad!' is the simple binary logic, born of reflexive hatred of their own countries. However, there is no conceptual reason why the ME can't be rearranged in a way that benefits everybody. Had Britain, France, and America done so from the beginning (and stuck the Jewish homeland somewhere less explosive), the West would probably be widely admired in the Arab world today, as friendly liberators from Ottoman oppression and the civilization that gave each group a homeland where they could live by their own lights and realize their collective potential.
Anyway, I don't think my position is inconsistent with supporting Assad, because clearly a highly centralized secular governments is preferable to terrorists.
Posted by: Lemur | 16 October 2017 at 04:49 PM
Once again the Barezanies are blaming the Talebanies for treason and withdrawal of forces from Kirkuk.
Posted by: Kooshy | 16 October 2017 at 05:14 PM
Very well and precisely said.
Posted by: Kooshy | 16 October 2017 at 05:25 PM
For linguists, the distinction between a language and a dialect has often been that a language is a collection of mutually-intelligible dialects. Many "languages" seem to defy this distinction. One or more linguists are credited with the distinction that a language is "a dialect with an army and a navy." This seems to apply here and in several other "would-be countries."
Posted by: Haralambos | 16 October 2017 at 05:29 PM
When you deconstruct the Kurds like that, you sound remarkably like the Jews un-peopling the Palestinians.
Its possible for an ethnic group to have a number of different expressions. In my country, New Zealand, natives (Maoris) are divided into distinct tribes, many of whom fought one another and aligned with or against the colonizing British. But that does not mean there isn't a common Maori substrate that provides a basis of unity. It also doesn't mean that there isn't a spiritual organic bond of "New Zealander" comprised of the top level identification of Anglo-Celts and Maoris.
You could do this with anyone.
>There is no uniform Scandinavian identity. They speak different languages and adhere to different cultures.
>Therefore, it is incoherent for Scandinavians to seek sovereignty.
Seems the issue here is denying fractal structures of identification.
Even one expression of Kurdish identity is entitled to pursue statehood. Anthropologists believe the Kurds who went north toward Russia are now an entirely separate ethnic group. Perhaps the Kurds should receive four states each corresponding to a language group. If its expedient they combine, the Kurdish *citizen* will have to be created after the Kurdish state. Their differential experiences reflect the partial erasure of their identity because of their dispersion. Its telling your analysis freezes them at the point of maximum divergence and dilution. *But if Kurdish identity diverged and diluted, it can also reconverge and intensify.* Ethnicity is not some eternal Platonic form.
Finally, groups of people who have cohered for centuries don't fade in and out of existence based on whether leftwing Eurocentrists deem them 'enlightened' according to ideas less than a few centuries old - ideas that are the product of one particular conception of the world during one particular phase (rapidly fading) of one particular civilization.
Posted by: Lemur | 16 October 2017 at 05:42 PM
Colonel -
You are right that foreign intervention was critical, and still is for independence movements anywhere. I always wondered why Louis Duportail and Bernardo Galvez never got the same tributes as that Lafayette, Pulaski, Steuben, deGrasse, and Rochambeau. There is a lot more to both Duportail and Galvez than what is in their Wikipedia entry. Galvez held the British in check in the west and the deep south. Duportail not only designed the siege works at Yorktown, he was the first Commandant of the US Corps of Engineers, was with Washington at Valley Forge, was the first to propose a US military academy and much of his texts were included in the first course of instruction. It is no accident that the insignia of the Corps of Engineers is the Castle at Verdun in honor of France's Corps du Génie. Well worth the read is a good book I just finished on the subject "Brothers at Arms" by Ferreiro: https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Arms-American-Independence-France/dp/1101910305/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1508190626&sr=1-1&keywords=larrie+ferreiro
Regarding Saladin. There may be Kurds who do not revere Saladin as you say. But I have seen Kurdish websites/twitterfeeds where Kurdish commenters bragged of Saladin's capture of Jerusalem and his defeat of the crusaders and threw it in the face of Arabic/Turkish commenters that had called them the dogs of crusaders and Jews.
Posted by: mike | 16 October 2017 at 05:52 PM
Hear, hear!
Posted by: mike | 16 October 2017 at 05:55 PM
Jordan and Egypt are onboard with the Greenback.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 16 October 2017 at 06:05 PM
That there is a substrate with a bsis of unity is not in dispute. What is in dispute, in Palestine or in Kurdish lands, or in Catalonia is if that basic unity is sufficient for statehood. The last 3000 years say "No".
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 16 October 2017 at 06:14 PM
The BBC recently showed 1 lone Kurdish soldier in uniform trying his best to play
traffic cop in the chaotic exodus of thousands of Kurds from the city as pockets
of gunfire were heard incoming from the background. The reporter had to withdraw
from the traffic jam in fear.
The U.S coalition basically created the current Iraqi government & used the Kurds to fight ISIS & now we have no influence? Diplomatically are we just hamstrung? Treated
like weenies unable to encourage any calm? While in other areas of Iraq & Syria
the coalition allows ISIS, their families & human shields to escape in convoys.
What is the end game plan for the Coalition? I'm confused.
Posted by: elaine | 16 October 2017 at 06:31 PM
Thanks. Thanks. Watching Sand Pebbles movie this evening. And book is free for Amazon Prime Kindle, so I’ve downloaded it. Excellent review convinced me.
Posted by: FourthAndLong | 16 October 2017 at 07:08 PM
I'd add to your list of novels James Jones's The Thin Red Line.
Posted by: ex-PFC Chuck | 16 October 2017 at 07:14 PM
In this discussion of USA policy in Iraq, the elephant in the room is Saudi Arabia.
In 1945, Roosevelt met with King Saud and promised USA military support, and also promised not to interfere with wahabi fundamentalism - in return for access to oil.
In 1973, when USA was suffering from the oil embargo, so severely that Nixon was running out of oil to continue to war in Vietnam, Kissinger went to Saudi and begged for more oil. Saudi agreed to provide it secretly so that arab allies would not know. Then in 1974 USA was broke, and Nixon sent William Simon and Kissinger to Saudi Arabia to beg again. USA agreed to buy oil and provide military aid, and in return Saudi agreed to buy Treasuries to finance USA spending. Significantly, USA agreed to keep Saudi purchases secret, and illegally misreported Treasury sales ever since.
So that is the basis for USA's blind support for Saudi monarchy,
no matter what Saudi does, including 911.
And of course this blind support has to make Iran the fall guy for everything that happens in ME today.
The 1945 meeting is shown in "Bitter Lake", film by Adam Curtis, highly recommended, available on youtube.
The 1974 meeting is described here:
http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/06/the-untold-story-behind-saudi-arabias-41-year-u-s-debt-secret/
Posted by: outthere | 16 October 2017 at 07:36 PM
Turco-Persian stearoller being the Seluk Civilization.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 16 October 2017 at 07:58 PM
And they were always defeated and their fiefdom rolled up. But not before leaving a large number of dead.
They are not Diocletians.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 16 October 2017 at 08:05 PM
IMO the current political attitude towards the whole thing is the short term perceived defeat of ISIS and a complete pullout, fully leaving Iraq to Iran come what may. Trump is fulfilling one of his promises in this at least. Our underestimation of ISIS is akin to obama's I'm afraid, and the same thing we saw in 2014 will be repeated, perhaps worse depending on local political climate in this powderkeg
Posted by: Serge | 16 October 2017 at 08:30 PM
Their current vision has nothing forvyoung people.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 16 October 2017 at 08:46 PM
fourthandlong
My uncle, John Henry Lang was in the ship's company of both USS Palos and USS Panay. He liked the movie but said the US was unequivocally on the Side of the KMT. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 16 October 2017 at 08:48 PM
The Pontics were a separate nation than Greeks. They were Hellenes, no doubt, but were not a state or country.
Posted by: Babak Makkinejad | 16 October 2017 at 08:59 PM
Lemur.
Two questions:
1-re:"The specious argument I've heard from the likes of SyrianGirl is that Israel wants weak and divided statelets in order to achieve regional hegemony." "Does "Yinon Plan" ring a bell? Do enlighten us.
2-re: "However, there is no conceptual reason why the ME can't be rearranged in a way that benefits everybody. Had Britain, France, and America done so from the beginning (and stuck the Jewish homeland somewhere less explosive), the West would probably be widely admired in the Arab world today, as friendly liberators from Ottoman oppression and the civilization that gave each group a homeland where they could live by their own lights and realize their collective potential." Please grace us w/ a map-assume you have infinite power, know all parties, and take your best shot. We will then see if "lemur despotism" is better than any of those you despise.
I look forward to your reply.
Ishmael Zechariah
Posted by: Ishmael Zechariah | 16 October 2017 at 09:11 PM
I have nothing to contribute to the analysis but thought you might like to hear this Kurdish - Persian music -- Hawniyaz Aynur, Queen of Kurdish music, with Master of Persian music Kayhan Kalhor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AKQTFM-6hg
Posted by: Croesus | 16 October 2017 at 09:51 PM
Apparently not all Arabs are against Kurdish independence. Southern Yemenis in Aden demonstrated Saturday for their own independence. In addition to waving the old flags of the Peoples-Democratic-Republic-of-Yemen, some in the mass demonstration held up Catalan and Kurdish flags.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/SouthYemen?src=hash
The north and the south merged only 27 years ago. As I recall the south decided decided it was a bad deal and tried to secede four years later, which ended up in a civil war. Before the merger weren't they a client state of the Soviets? So maybe Putin is interested in sticking it to the Saudis, Emiratis, AQAP and Daesh's Wilayah al-Yaman by helping in Yemen next? Would the Houthis in the north welcome the Russians also?
Posted by: mike | 16 October 2017 at 11:04 PM