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23 September 2017

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ann

I have not read, should I assume the buses of rebels are going to be left to become bones in the desert?

Farmer Don

The Book by Robert Davies, "The Strange Death of Europe" lists the effects of huge uncontrolled Islamic immigration into post-Christian Europe.

https://www.amazon.com/Strange-Death-Europe-Immigration-Identity/dp/1472942248/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1506197527&sr=1-1&keywords=the+strange+death+of+europe+by+douglas+murray

Things are changing, and on the whole, it you prefer Classic European culture and values compared to current Islamic culture and values, you're side is loosing.

turcopolier

ann

No. They (both the US coalition and R+6) let the jihadis come far enough west to pick them up. We wrote about that. pl

Laguerre

That's the usual crap about Islam taking over Europe, much like Houllebecq's novel. Muslims are only a small percentage of European population, and would have been less if European countries hadn't spent much of the 19th century making colonies of Muslim lands. And then recently spent their time destabilising Muslim countries, thus producing floods of refugees.

ann

Thanks, I missed that post

Farmer Don

Laguerre
"Are only a small percentage of European population"
Yes, small but continuosly growing.
"Would be less if European countries hadn't spent much of the 19th century making colonies of Muslim lands. And then recently spent their time destabilizing Muslim countries, thus producing floods of refugees"
Listing some reasons for the influx does not change the argument.

Plus many of the people entering Europe are economic migrants and not refugees from destablized countries.

Will.2718

whoa- the accusations are flying about what really happened in Idlib. A chechen military police unit of about 30 or so was supposedly a target of a kidnapping by HST (?) (the new Nusra). Supposedly the assault was led by a tank regiment (?). Theories abound that CIA was involved either as to embarrass Russia or in collusion with Russia to wipe out some 850 jihadists in a trap resulting in a cauldron to be destroyed by Spetznatz and from the air.

Maybe it's all just Kabuki theater.

http://thesaker.is/russian-special-forces-repel-a-us-commanded-attack-in-syria-denounce-the-usa-and-issue-a-stark-warning/
http://thesaker.is/russian-sof-incinerated-the-us-sof-in-idlib/

Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg

Plus I think a lot of the refugees that the destruction of the Libyan state (to prove the Empire will not be mocked) freed up to flood into Merkels EU are Christian anyway. The Islamic parts of sub Saharan Africa are the coasts. Places with all the worst trouble are the centre like Congo or Uganda.
Also I live in a city with a lot of Somalis, Eritreans and Ethiopians. They're fine friendly people. But like Hungarians and Romanians, just don't start talking history with them over beers. Stick to sports.

Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg

It would not be the first time the CIA made its own foreign policy. Analogous to the British East India Company

JamesT

I'm not one to assume Russian generals are lying and that US spokespersons are telling the truth, but in this situation especially I think it would be a mistake to assume the reverse. The SDF and SAA are currently scrambing for control for the same set of oilfields. If the Russians were going to do some IO I think now would be the time to do it.

On a somewhat related note, War on the Rocks has an article on SDF's "Arab problem":
- PYD is monopolizing power in the SDF (“the thing that upsets residents is that 80 or 90 percent of internal security are from all ethnicities…but the final [decisions lie] with Kurdish leadership").
- PYD has forced thousands of Arab you to serve in the SDF. The rate of volunerary enlistment by Arabs has fallen in line with the PYD’s alienation of some rebel brigades in northern Syria, and reports of human rights abuses against Arab residents.
https://warontherocks.com/2017/09/northern-syrias-anti-islamic-state-coalition-has-an-arab-problem/

J

Colonel,

I've been watching an Israeli movie entitled ApolloniA, the story of the Israeli-Soviet double agent Victor Grayevsky. Interesting movie.

Here's IMDB's plot summary regarding ApolloniA:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4272630/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl

Summaries

Victor Grayevsky entered the pantheon of Israeli intelligence thanks to a single courageous and heroic action. While a journalist in Poland and at great personal risk, Grayevsky transferred to the West a secret document - the speech of Nikita Khrushchev, which first revealed Stalin's crimes. Just prior to his death in 2007 it turned out that Grayevsky has kept another secret - alongside his day job on the Voice of Israel radio station, he secretly worked as a spy, seemingly in the service of the Soviet Union but, in fact, for Israel. Apollonia follows the story of the man and spy and tries to make sense of a number of questions arising from his story and mysterious character. The film also offers hints and insights not only into the past but also into what might be secretly happening these days, as the Cold war is heating up again.

Fred

TTG will be glad to hear I score front row seats for the first game at the Red Wings new arena. Now if they could just pull off a 5 to 1 win against Boston in the regular season....

J

Colonel,

The cat-n-mouse routine between Israeli intelligence and Soviet intelligence with their phone tags and dead drops, I found very amusing some of the lengths that Israeli intelligence took to (so they thought) to try and avoid being snared by Soviet intelligence with their double agent Grayevsky. Which made me wonder just how much manure that the Soviets were feeding the Israelis, and vice a versa.

YT

Their numbers shall grow exponentially across your beloved Europe due to their ability to outbreed whites (white European femme foolishly either not marrying or desiring offspring "all thanks to" feminism).

You shall soon witness 'em trying to proselytize European youth to the dismay of many.

Demographics is destiny, and you shall not enjoy what soon beckons, this you can be rest assured.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9075849/Multiculturalism-has-left-Britain-with-a-toxic-legacy.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/20/malaysia-blocks-beer-festival-kuala-lumpur-vice-fears/

(Or worse... They are to be used as convenient pawns in unsavory agendas myriad. http://alt-market.com/articles/3204-operation-temperer-uk-will-likely-institute-martial-law-measures-within-a-year )

Babak Makkinejad

All:
As expected, the path for the creation of subhuman monsters is being opened:
https://www.google.com/amp/relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2017/01/human-pig-hybrid-embryo-chimera-organs-health-science
And
GEN 4 August 2017 (gene-editing of human embros).

LeaNder

Well Babak, I would object to the coinage of "generous" in relation to donors beyond kidneys.Maybe? To not enter the subject closer then that.

but would you be so kind to explain:
GEN 4 August 2017 (gene-editing of human embros)

Lots of Fourth Generations in many fields, I assume. In the case of biology there might be a huger gray area. I am vaguely aware of some cases, more or less close. Not precisely concerning gene-editing but maybe occasionally something you might consider too much care for the child to be born? For instance if there is a fear on one or the other side considering possibly inherted problems passed on?

Arbitrarily chosen link:

word of life, gene 4

http://gen4pdv.focolare.org/en/

Fred

Babak,

Iceland has almost completely ended Downs syndrom in babies. By aborting them....
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/down-syndrome-iceland/

Moral values in action.

English Outsider


So it's Merkel if the polls are right and if she can scramble a coalition together, and they think she can. How do I, an ardent Germanophile, come to terms with that?

It's a difficult one because for me there's always that sense of home-coming when I visit Germany. The languages are remarkably similar for a start. They did some odd things with their consonants after we parted linguistic company, as we did I think with our vowels, but there's never that "what the hell's going on here?" moment you get so often with constructions in more remote languages. They gave up on politics for a while - wouldn't anyone, after the Thirty Years War - and have never really got a grip on it since. The resultant habit of leaving the big political and constitutional stuff to whoever happens to be master at the time does have one advantage though. No real engagement in real politics means that they have, in my experience, retained a straightforwardness and honesty in marked contrast to the cautious double speak of so many of my own countrymen.

Just my personal impressions, those, and not worth a lot, but that comfortable feeling of coming to a good and familiar place when I go over there results from such unexamined impressions, and leaves me contented.

The politicians are right bastards, goes without saying. I'm told the last half- decent one was Schmidt. They say that whatever he got up to in German politics he was the last one they felt really cared for the country. I know the feeling. I recollect some of our English politicians from the dim past. Walking political disasters, I thought then and still think, but you got the feeling they were in it for us, more than for themselves or for some half-assed ideology. People like Healey, Douglas-Hume, Shore, Castle - difficult to vote for any of those but if you did you were voting for someone who had your back. Now, for us as well as for most Germans I know, voting is merely a least worse option exercise and the option never there is the option that'll do the country much good.

I seldom get into conversation about the cult when I'm over there, just as I don't much here when I'm out and about. As some American said, you've either got a country or you haven't. Not much to say between the two sides, unless you're given to throwing slogans about, and finding your friends in the grip of a death-wish ideology when you drop round for coffee isn't something it's courteous to notice. Very occasionally you'll meet someone who mentions the AfD approvingly so some are getting it even if, in my never-stated view, getting it ever so horribly wrong. But that's just a few. And for the rest, if you're one of those who believe you haven't got a country, how can it be said you're giving it away?

My Germanophilia co-exists quite happily with my Little Englander side - consistency in such matters is no virtue - but occasionally I go in for some contrast and compare. I look at my trusty German chainsaw - eighteen years hard graft so far and never a cross word - and recognise they have quality mass production cracked better than we have. Not up to the Japanese but still No. 1 in Europe, I'd say. They do Empire better too. Gutting Greece while maintaining the moral high ground, and that without a gunboat or Gatling gun in sight, was well above our mark when we were in the same business.

So the Germans do production engineering better. They do Empire better. Now they're in the process of re-electing the bigliest dinosaur of what "David Habbakuk" on the Colonel's site has, if memory serves, characterised as the "Brezhnev Era" of the EU, I'm forced to acknowledge they do stupid better too.

Babak Makkinejad

Please see here
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/08/human-embryos-gene-editing-crispr-us-health-science/

English Outsider


"David Habakkuk", "Douglas-Home". Apologies.

Sam Peralta

Angela Merkel will remain Chancellor for a fourth term even though her party and the Socialists lost ground by double digits. Something to be said for her longevity at the helm of Germany. It will be interesting to see how she grapples with President Macron and his vision of a fiscal union. Meaning the Germans and Dutch directly underwrite the more profligate south.

What are the political implications of the strong performance of the AfD in particular in eastern Germany and the FDP which was given up for dead in the last elections?

English Outsider

Sam Peralta - I hope that comment of mine didn't give the impression that I was commenting as an expert on the German political scene. The only thing worse than a know-all is a know-all who doesn't, so I should make it clear that I'm not qualified to make such forecasts. Maybe "LeaNder" will give us a steer.

But implicit in DH's use of the term "Brezhnev Era" is the assumption that there'll be a crisis some time and I don't see how that can be avoided. German engineering is indeed superb and gives them an overwhelming advantage selling escalators to the Chinese. An overwhelming advantage selling Mercedes to the rest of Europe as well. That trade is unbalanced and is going to come unstuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARGET2

What ultimately matters though is that they need the empire to sell their stuff to, and the natives are getting restless.

So are their own Deplorables. They do have Deplorables in the land of affluence. I meet them and they're not doing as well as they'd like. Add in what everyone tactfully calls demographic problems and I call plain foolishness and it doesn't much matter how long Mutti staggers on for.

They're well down the same road that Mrs Thatcher took us on long ago. That story doesn't have a happy ending. If it counts as a silver lining the cronies and the top earners are still enjoying the ride, so there's always that.

LeaNder

thanks for the link, Babak.

See it has been discussed over here too. And is heavily under attack from the field of ethics/religion.

A cousin of mine after years in research, a biologist works for quite some time now in a fertility clinic. German law is quite restrictive, he once told me. If I recall correctly, he compared it Austria's law, which at least then was a lot wider. More limits in this context, if I recall correctly:

The tool could also reduce the number of embryos that are discarded during fertility treatments because of worrisome genetic mutations.

From the clinical/biological perspective it seems the more embryos you have, the less you have to force the women through repeated miscarriages. ...

And yes, if you ever witnessed the troubles parents go through, when they learn immediately at the time their child is born or shortly after it won't live long. Even only from far experience it?

A couple I know had to watch their daughter die of cystic fibrosis with 17. Don't forget what they went through before.

A classmate of mine married a co-student in medicine. They were both doctors when their child was born. Not the same. They knew immediately she wouldn't get old. The specialists didn't even give her more then 2 years. She died with four.

A friend of mine had miscarriage after miscarriage till she learned the reason. Some highly rare biological incompatibility between her and her husband, to put it non-scientifically. She is also quite religious. Should she have separated from her husband and find a biologically more compatible partner?

You should have a chat with with my cousin. ... This is obviously in it's earliest development, and even in the USA, GB and China were the laws seem to allow a lot more then over here, it will be heavily discussed. You can't after all experiment with humans yet ....

But now I vaguely grasp your point:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR

LeaNder

Yes, EO, what would we have done without a little help from our Germanophile British friends:

Nigel Farage in Berlin, 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtAZ9UqvNlw

Nigel Farag in Spandau, 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki6208yAG-A

Now they're in the process of re-electing the bigliest dinosaur

Well yes, what a pity "Birne" Kohl doesn't live to witness. Kohl's little girl, as she was called then, closes up on the "eternal chancellor", as he was called.

Will be rough though, on the surface the Jamaica Coalition, Black,Yellow,Green - below the CSU Bavarian sister firmly decided to allow no right next to herself.

There is no other option, the Social Democrats opted out. On the right the AfD on the left The Left, with their respective hard cores. Vaguely triggering memories of Weimar.

Ulenspiegel

"Plus many of the people entering Europe are economic migrants and not refugees from destablized countries."

If you actually check the relevant data you find that your argument is wrong. Muslim immigrants are mainly refugees in central Europe.

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