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24 August 2017

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mike

Fred -

"over the centuries". Perhaps some in the last century or two. But most of those were marriages between blancos and mestizos. And even many of those were the equivalent of common law marriages, termed concubinage in Mexican law even up to the 1980s. There were NO marriage contracts between 16th & 17th century Spaniards and natives. Cohabitation is not marriage. Even today there are strong cultural biases against marriage between blancos and indios in Mexico.

Although I confess I have no idea what is going on in the rest of Latin America.

LeaNder

But what exactly did the artist force to keep the visual raising onto a column above commuter's perception in his celebration of Ashe?

Ok, this seems the worst blunder, since it might block communication/understanding: what exactly did force the artist to stay within convention by raising his counter-hero (if I may?) on the pedestal? Is he higher above then the others? At their height? Or was the column a dictate by the city council?

LeaNder

Carl's soft ice cream stand

Caught my attention too. There were times soft ice was all around. I wouldn't might to have one occasionally. By now it has completely disappeared. Versus the Italian ice, rumors say originating from all from the Veneto region in Northern Italy. Which may be true. M close by favorite seller rents his place once it gets colder, and may or may not return to the Venoto region or a specific village there. Would I know?

It was actually used for the auctioneer to stand on so that he could see who was bidding. Virginia likes auctions.

Maybe. Why not? But space seems rather narrow, thus were could the bidders inspect their ware before bidding? Has anyone ever put those type of auctions into the larger context of auction history in the US or Virginia?

turcopolier

LeaNder

There were/are many auction houses in small towns but the most enjoyable auctions were in the open air at the farm site. The farms were open to inspect tagged goods for days before the auction. "maybe?" Why "maybe?" you think I would lie about this? As for Ash's statue and that of Bo Jangles Robinson there was no objection that I remember to these statues. I never measured them for height. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl%27s_Ice_Cream pl

LeaNder

Carl's looks 100% American to me. ;)

But concerning the block, you may have changed your mind. Hopefully we all do once given new evidence. Only in this case evidence may be missing, and research won't pay.

The Twisted Genius

LeaNder,

That Ashe monument ended up on Monument Avenue due to the insistence of then Virginia Governor Douglas Wilder. The sculptor never intended for it to be installed there. There was some opposition to its placement, but it was muted, especially compared to the crap going on these days.

I can vouch for the ice cream at Carls. It's delicious. The soft frozen custard is hand scooped into the cone complete wit the artistic twist. SWMBO and I stop there every time we go to Fredericksburg. I'm glad Carls isn't too close to my home. I get a jumbo cone every time I do go there.

The Twisted Genius

LeaNder,

Concerning auction houses in Fredericksburg:

There was a livestock exchange operating here until last year conducting auctions. It shut down due to dwindling business, but was soon bought by Asad Yosufzai, who owns a halal slaughterhouse and grocery next to the exchange. He reopened it and now hosts poultry and farm equipment actions along with livestock.

turcopolier

LeaNder

"Changed my mind?" No. You are searching for evil doing. I called several old Fredericksburg residents whose ancestors have lived there for many generations. pl

turcopolier

TTG

You should try going to a farm auction in the Piedmont or Shenandoah Valley. I voted for Wilder. I regretted it later when he started using State Police helicopters to visit Kluge, a German immigrant the music mogul, and his wife, a former soft porn actress. Kluge imported an Irish baronet as gamekeeper on his vast Albemarle County estate. The baronet started shooting the neighbors' dogs and various hawks. He was tried in federal court for the hawk part and deported. That probably saved his life. pl

Fred

mike,

"There were NO marriage contracts between 16th & 17th century Spaniards and natives."

If you say so. Didn't realize you were an expert on Latin American marriage customs over the centuries. Guess all those professors of mine were incompetent, liars or both.

turcopolier

LeaNder

https://fredericksburghistory.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/hello-world/

pl

turcopolier

LeaNder

Gelato is widely sold in supermarkets here and in some Italian restaurants. There is a lot of creamy ice cream sold here in premium brands. My wife is lactose intolerant so I have become used to eating ice cream made with lactaid milk. pl

Will2.71828

In NC, they were known as Fusionists. Kinda of like readjustors.
They were overthrown by the only known coup d'etat in the history of the U.S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898

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