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06 August 2017

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steve

I think you overstate the Politico piece, and in the MSM the harshest thing i found was the linked NBC piece. There were also a number of pieces like the one at The Atlantic which suggested that Trump was correct in his assessments. I certainly didn't se any lambasting and most of the criticism was in reference to his talking about firing Nicholson. I also seem to recall a lot of bad press directed towards Obama for "dithering" over Afghanistan. Trump, like Obama wants a way out of Afghanistan that does not have any political risks or costs. That just doesn't exist.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-says-u-s-losing-afghan-war-tense-meeting-generals-n789006

Steve

turcopolier

steve

I am not Harper. Do you not understand that?

steve g

In the meantime the "average Joe and Jane"
citizen has pulled the plug on all this 60 cycle
noise refusing to believe the counterintuitive
or their own gut instincts.
Youtube everyone. Snapchat. TMZ anyone!!

Dr.Puck

Harper.

Let's say for a moment that one is a modestly but not expertly informed citizen, and one who has been around the block, but also one who has no special experience such as working for the government, being a military man, or, well travelled.

How is this person to intelligently judge reportage? And, do so with reports about reports--which is what we have here?

I fully expect individuals to form interest groups. Interest groups that execute agendas need to be funded, and if Soros is on the side of your interests, his money is nicely green.

As for the POTUS, I try to parse the trouble he makes for himself, the trouble others are making for him, and, the contextual assumptions that I happen to hold, such as my understanding that he is seriously mentally ill.

Otherwise I note that he has filled his cabinet with plutocrats, Goldman-Sachs people and types, a few billionaires, and not placed a single person with any historical interest or track record in rebuilding the middle class. Nevertheless, I comprehend that there are many in the GOP who wholeheartedly endorse the magical hopes given by melding libertarianism and Reaganomics, so perhaps making the .01% richer will trickle down and help main street and rural economies and Youngstown. Stranger things have happened.

So, the gist here is that his legitimacy is obvious but so are the interests gathering around the idea that his policies and agenda must be defeated. This reminds me of the last POTUS and what his opposition looked like, with the Koch Bro. and others playing the Soros (etc.) role.

As for Afghanistan the credible reports seems to indicate that Trump was grappling along the lines Steve described. In 2002 one didn't have to be highly informed to know that Afghanistan was/is the graveyard of empires.

VietnamVet

Harper,

I agree. One way to describe the coup is "The Empire Strikes Back". There is too much power to be gained by serving Globalists and spreading chaos. What has me baffled is the complete ineffectiveness of the White House. They should have pushed the leak investigations from day one and had a team ready to drop into the intelligence community political positions. Instead they are wrapped up in their crazy alt-right beliefs and prioritized resource extraction and deregulation which will accelerate the continued decline of the life expectancy of Americans.

A faction of the Imperial Guard is trying to put Donald Trump back behind the curtain and stop him from riling up the plebes. The Trump family doesn’t realize what they got into. You’d think his military retirees, the oil men and all the Goldman Sachs alumnus would clue the President into what is really going on. Unless keeping their jobs depends on not knowing and explaining why the Empire is collapsing.

b

A few days ago the Prime Minister of Russia Dmitry Medvedev wrote:

/quote/
The US establishment fully outwitted Trump; the President is not happy about the new sanctions, yet he could not but sign the bill. The issue of new sanctions came about, primarily, as another way to knock Trump down a peg. New steps are to come, and they will ultimately aim to remove him from power. A non-systemic player has to be removed.

Meanwhile, the interests of the US business community are all but ignored, with politics chosen over a pragmatic approach. Anti-Russian hysteria has become a key part of both US foreign policy (which has occurred many times) and domestic policy (which is a novelty).
/endquote/
https://www.facebook.com/Dmitry.Medvedev/posts/10154587161801851

MRW

such as my understanding that he is seriously mentally ill.

Which means 1/2 of America was as well for voting for him?

Greco

Thank you Harper for the insight and for connecting some not so obvious dots. I concur with your conclusions.

I think the president is very vulnerable to removal and possibly trapped.

Unless Trump has Mueller fired he will be indicted on something (whether it's related to Russian collusion or not). And if he is indicted, calls for his impeachment will gain greater momentum. I can only imagine this would all take place before the midterm elections, possibly in the next couple of months.

Assuming Trump were to beat them to the punch and tries to have Mueller fired, I think an attempted coup will be set in motion. Now for all I know, Trump and his trusted generals (Kelly, Mattis, and McMaster) are putting on a very sophisticated show. These generals (some or all) may just be pretending to go along with such a plan, but it's hard to say.

If it's not for show, then the president has a noose around his neck and he has effectively been checkmated.

Babak Makkinejad

The freely elected and duly & legally seated representatives of the American people just committed the United States to another generational struggle against the Russian Federation. Where is the Rationality in that?

Babak Makkinejad

Medvdev is wrong, in my opinion. The sanctions against Russia cannot be repealed unless she is degeated; like the Soviet Union. It is beyond Trump.

Jack

VV

It has baffled me too why Brennan and Clapper have not been made examples. Not that it would make a difference since the Borg have a deep bench who have fully infiltrated Congress, the media and positions of policy influence.

Eric Newhill

I guess Rosenberger, Kramer and Kristol, et al don't comprehend that some of us know who they are, what they are all about and that the civil war won't treat them kindly.

turcopolier

richardstevenhack

I believe I have been testifying to the nothingburger aspect of this as have PT and Harper among others. BUT, expect some other snip hunt to be attempted. pl

Fred

Dr. Puck,

"not placed a single person with any historical interest or track record in rebuilding the middle class. "

Do you have a list of candidates?

Dr.Puck

No.

Mental problems belong to individuals, not groups. That said, it is very hard to find a Nixon voter nowadays. Go figure...

It is not impossible that a person challenged by serious mental health issues can be successful, or even lead a nation.

I have asked Trump supporters what their amateur assessment is of POTUS Trump's personality deficits. Their various answers do not suggest to me their own mental illness, but, rather, to use a casual term, "their having drunk the kool-aid." I could characterize these assessments as reflecting the 'group think' idea that Trump's psychopathology is, actually, the super genius mental maneuverings of a jedi master four dimensional chess player who will, given time, deconstruct and disempower the establishment elites, destroy collectivism, and bring back the American economy to 1955 to the fly over areas.

(or something like that...)

Dr.Puck

Candidates that were considered but were not nominated? No.

Mikee

Ha Ha. I'm assuming you meant snipe hunt. Haven't heard that in many years.
Question to Field & Stream from 2009: "I was told to go out snipe hunting with a pillow case and make clucking sounds and they will run to you. what if a lot of snipes come running at you at once? How do you live through some thing like that?"

http://www.fieldandstream.com/answers/survival/animal-attacks/i-was-told-go-out-snipe-hunting-pillow-case-and-make-clucking-sounds

b

Medvedev never says that the sanctions can be repealed. He says the opposite.
/quote/
The sanctions regime has been codified and will remain in effect for decades unless a miracle happens.
/endquote/

Old Microbiologist

You make some points but the problem is whither else? The Clintonistas would continue the policies of Obama and Bush without any changes whatsoever. The over riding goal of American hegemony and making the plutocrats and the rich even richer is the same with either group. We rolled the dice because Clinton was just simply the worst possible candidate and even Trump beat her which says a lot about what is wrong with the Democratic Party. Maybe Trump has mental issues and one would question the sanity of anyone who would want to be the POTUS so I suppose it isn't unexpected. Clinton is equally and probably more insane and is clearly a psychopath. Trump is the product of a wealthy upbringing and his surrounding himself with similar types isn't unexpected. But expecting him to understand the plight of the bottom 30% was unrealistic. He is a billionaire and knows only what he sees from that perspective.

The truth is slowly coming to light about the nefarious actions of the Democratic Party and massive election fraud. When I hear it coming from NPR this means it is so bad it can't be hidden. If even the 30% number is right then Clinton really lost by a large margin and even cheating didn't work. I have always said we badly need a national ID card like we have here in the EU. Then you can easily prove who you are and what your status is. This would very quickly clear up election fraud issues. It is a travesty that the leading nation of the free world hasn't even got simple things like ID cards.

LondonBob

To be fair Trump did make clear the sanctions mechanism is unconstitutional and clearly laid the basis on which they can be challenged. Trump is right to pick his fights.

http://theduran.com/trump-sidesteps-impeachment-trap-sanctions-law-prepares-challenge-supreme-court/

Whilst some folks have mentioned Jackson-Vannick and the Magnitsky Act, in fact thing go far further back than that. Wiliam Howard Taft vehemently opposed, as did the State Department, Jewish attempts to get the Russo-American Treaty of 1832 abrogated. Taft lost the following election after Teddy Roosevelt ran as independent splitting the Republican vote and Woodrow Wilson duly won.

http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/president-taft-and-the-jews-a-remarkable-friendship/2015/12/23/

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/intl_jew_full_version/ij38.htm
A less hagiographic version from Henry Ford's notorious Dearborn Independent.

LondonBob

I believe Rosenstein, for what it is worth, said on Sunday that Mueller would not be allowed to engage in a fishing expedition or stray from his mandate. Of course if he does he might not find anything anyway and he will have damaged the impeachment cause by doing so. Trump's issue remains that he does not control his own party. 2018 will probably help and he continues to slowly gain control over the machinery of government. Time is on his side, just needs to be patient.

pantaraxia

It has also baffled me as to why Trump did not immediately have a special prosecutor appointed to investigate the Clinton cabal, thereby not only fulfilling a promise to his loyal base (lock her up) and being seen as seriously attempting to ‘drain the swamp’ but also simultaneously forcing the Democratic Party (and by extension the politicized establishment) into a defensive posture. From pay to play via the Clinton Foundation to the kid gloves treatment by the Justice Department (potentially implicating the Obama administration) in regard to the server scandal, etc, this would have been the gift that kept on giving. Recent belated calls by the Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee for such an appointment will now be perceived as a desperate attempt at deflection from Russiagate and will be framed as such by MSM.

Special Prosecutor to be appointed to investigate Hillary Clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwt67MP0Vzk

In moments of unreserved optimism, bordering on delusional, I see such an appointment leading to the simultaneous implosion of both the Democratic and Republican parties. Drain the swamp indeed.

Babak Makkinejad

Thank you for correcting me; I did not read it thoroughly.

I am not sure where this will lead but a scenario akin to the novel "1984" cannot be ruled out.

English Outsider


Old microbiologist - With respect, and although I have the same concerns as you, this makes me uneasy - " It is a travesty that the leading nation of the free world hasn't even got simple things like ID cards."

Whenever I go to Germany I look around my fellows on the underground and it's an eerie feeling to reflect that they all carry the requisite ID with them, like a bunch of ear-tagged rabbits.

Irrational? I don't think so. I'm a free citizen in a free country, or so I like to think, and not just a labelled unit under an automatic duty to explain or identify myself whenever the authorities choose.

ID cards are called for in order to avoid electoral fraud, illegal immigration and criminal activity. But it wouldn't get to the root of the problem. It would probably lead to a new industry supplying false papers for anyone who knew his way around. As for electoral fraud - both in the US and England adequate checking mechanisms already exist. It's just that there is no political will to apply them and insufficient popular pressure to get them applied.

I'm old enough to remember a time when the US stood for freedom. Maybe an illusion, even then, but it was a nice illusion. It'd be a shame if the illusion was stripped away so far that US citizens had to conform to Continental practice and dutifully line up to get their ear tags punched on.

dilbert dogbert

No. It means half are of tribe D and half of tribe R. Nothing else. 3million votes were canceled by the Electoral College. It won't go away so it is a permanent part of our system. We have to recognize it just produced a massive failure to vet the best candidate. We may also think our two party system failed to vet the best candidates.

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