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wisedupearly

The drums are sounding
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/us/politics/syria-will-pay-a-heavy-price-for-another-chemical-attack-trump-says.html
"President Bashar al-Assad appeared to be preparing a chemical weapons attack similar to the one in April, the White House said, warning that he would “pay a heavy price” if one occurred."
When will this insanity cease?

JohnA

On Syria, despite the angry rhetoric of the last few days, Moscow and Washington are close to an agreement on a de-escalation zone in South Syria. They may also be close to coordinating operations against Islamic State.

- Vladimir Frolov

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/frolov-58242

We all hope it ends very soon.

AK

Perhaps I'm ascribing too much conspiratorial capability to the Trump White House and the Ziocons, but I can't help but read this as a pretty transparent message to our dear "allies" in AQ/IS/JAN - "Hey, heads up fellas, you guys might wanna pull off another one of these false flags any day now. It would really help all our causes, because in case you haven't noticed, we're all quite a ways up shit creek at present." I want to believe that it's a far-fetched scenario, but I find any level of duplicity and moral vacuity is possible from our politicians and the Borg creatures these days. My grandfathers are rolling over in their graves...

wisedupearly

Its either Trump tweeting or Nikki Haley, where do they find these harridans?
from Reuters
quote
The United States ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said on Twitter: "Any further attacks done to the people of Syria will be blamed on Assad, but also on Russia and Iran who support him killing his own people."
unquote
looks like peace is not her thing.

ToivoS

I just googled "seymour hersh news" and the top two hits were to Bellingcat's denunciation of Hersh's article this week in Welt. This article was not even listed in the top 10. How does Google do tnat?

1664RM

The drums are surely beating .... the green light has flashed for another faslse flag ...

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/879520906963554305/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Ftheduran.com%2Famerica-prepares-to-attack-syrian-government-false-flag-imminent%2F

LeaNder

Hmmm? OK, once again setting another red line in the sand?

Yeah, Right

There is no doubt that Higgins is a buffoon or, perhaps more insidiously, a useful idiot.

Certainly his "rebuttal" is a sloppy bit of work.

Sure, it starts out fair enough in that he summarizes Hersh's article pretty well. Kudos for that.

But then he simply ignores Hersh's article altogether as he regurgitates his own "analysis", as if it were a self-evident truth that his own alternate "facts" must be better than Hersh's insider contacts.

Sorry, Elliot, that isn't the least bit self-evident.

Indeed, as far as I can tell there is only one statement in Higgin's post that is worth consideration, and it comes right at the end.

It is this: Hersh says that the Russians informed the USA that they intended to blow *this* building to smithereens with a precision bomb, and the USAF's own Bomb Damage Assessment was that the SU-22 did, indeed, blow *that* building to smithereens with a 500lb bomb.

OK, says Higgins, then Hersh should give us all the GPS coordinates of *that* building so we can see for ourselves what happened to it.

IMHO that is a very valid request, and it represents the only thing that is of any value in that Bellingcat post.

Yeah, Right

It's hard to know which is the more frightening:

Is it that Trump is so craven that he is threatening to attack Syria so as to distract attention from Hersh being bold enough to call Bullshit! on the President original action?

Or is it that Trump is so venal that he is openly double-dog-daring the jihadists to stage a new false-flag attack on those "beautiful babies"?

I note that this new utterance is so insane that US Central Command is running a million miles away from it.

Good for them, though I don't understand why the MSM is asking the US military for comment.

Surely they should address their questions to the CIA.

After all, the CIA will be the agency that will be tasked with coordinating Trump's self-fulfilling prophesy.

Kunuri

Poor Eliot Higgins, I am sure he doesn't realize how crafty Turkish women are. In our little ex-pat community here, divorce rate between Turkish women and my friends over the past 7 years I have been here is pushing 75%, myself included in this informal statistic.

peaches and apples

If it is true that an agreement between Moscow and Washington is imminent concerning the de-escalation zone perhaps a "false flag sarin attack" is needed to block this agreement.

blowback

Why do I get the feeling that this is those imbeciles Ezra Cohen-Watnick (the senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council) and Derek Harvey (the NSC’s top Middle East advisor) stirring it up again.

The-arioch

but USA officials already decried evidence as unneeded and obsolete things of the past.

https://plus.google.com/+AriochThe/posts/hFWRMuNE15c

turcopolier

blowback

I am told that they are no longer serious players. pl

The Beaver

That's why Brown Moses is going CRAZY!

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/879414110810591232

He has just realised that he will be the next Rita Katz after OBL was killed in Pakistan (no more fake videos to peddle to the CIA)after the R+6 succeeeds in their goal to retake Deir-Ezzor. May be the Sultan will give him another task .

Matthew

Publius Tacitus: Aren't their great advantages to using amateurs like the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights and Bellingcat? You can launder fake information through the media, thereby creating a pro-intervention narrative, but without having to make actual professionals "sign their work."

Simply put, responsibility is diffused once the media pushes the story. Is it any surprise that the media avoided any soul-searching after selling the Iraq War.

When everyone is responsible, no one is.


 Ishmael Zechariah

Kunuri,
re: " he doesn't realize how crafty Turkish women are"

IMO your statement applies to all women, irrespective of nationality. Might I remind you of Richard Sale's gem of a quote from a few topics earlier: "what a conniving, heartless skunk Hillary was..."
Pax
Ishmael Zechariah

Old Microbiologist

Well stated. This Higgins character has been an enormous pain in the petard for a long time now. I am surprised how much traction he gets. The same is of course true for the Syrian Human Rights Watch which I think is another one man show but out of the UK.

The Beaver

@ Old Microbiiologist

Higgins also is out of the UK - an unemployed book-keeper but being paid by someone inside the beltway

SmoothieX12

I would be extremely cautious, if not outright dismissive, with anything which comes out of Moscow Times, and especially by Frolov.

sid_finster

Don't pick on poor Nikki. She's right - any attacks will be blamed on Assad, no matter who is actually responsible.

sid_finster

Say the things the establishment wants you to say and sound sincere in doing so and you'd be surprised how much support you can muster.

vid. Mensch, Louise.

Greco

As I understand it, the reason Trump hit the Shayrat air base in April was ostensibly due to the supposed "chemical attack Assad ordered"; however, Trump was also advised that this base was housing containers potentially used for storing chemical weapons, which would have been a violation to the agreement the Obama admin had made with Putin after the Ghouta attack in 2013.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10309286/The-US-Russia-agreement-on-Syrias-chemical-weapons-deal-in-full.html

https://informnapalm.org/en/syria-containers-chemical-weapons-found-shayrat-air-base/

The missile attack Trump authorized in April was, for the most part, for show. And in the end, Trump didn't authorize McMaster's supposed plan to suit up 150,000 troops into Syria by June 1st (a claim made by Mike Cernovich who had learned of this plan from a source in the NSC/WH). And it was clear that those around Trump were pushing for regime change (McMaster had let on to as much), but Trump decided not to change the course he had set no less than a week earlier.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/09/trump-officials-say-no-new-us-focus-on-ousting-syria-assad.html

b

Higgins is now financed by U.S. NED and Soros Open Society - said differently, by the CIA. He has also been losing it quite a few times publicly ranting against White House journalists and Trump.

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@Publius

"Syrian Air Force or Army activated their chemical weapons unit "

There are no longer such units. They have been completely dissolved and the soldiers and officers reassigned to regular troops. There is still is the normal ABC defense infrastructure every military has but this is integrated, as usually, in the battle units. There is no longer a chemical corps.

If the U.S. claims that it sees "chemical staff" moving here or there to prepare weapons it is simply pure nonsense.

Seamus Padraig

Don't use Google. They manipulate search results. Use another search engine, such as DuckDuckGo.com - they have no search filters.

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