« POTUS does not understand the limits of his power. | Main | Falcon 9 and NROL-76 »

01 May 2017

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Babak Makkinejad

All:

The comments of "lucopter" caused me to post this by Ambassador Chas Freeman:

http://chasfreeman.net/greater-israel-and-the-prospects-for-peace-in-the-middle-east/

LondonBob

The last thing I will have to say on this is that you need to look up the Battles of Aachen and Hurtgen Forest to see why the opportunity to bypass the Siegfried Line wasn't one to pass up.

turcopolier

LondonBob

Whoa! I am among those who thought M-G was a good plan poorly executed. pl

LondonBob

I know, wasn't aimed at you, or aimed at anyone really. Just an important point that is oft forgotten when assessing M-G, the other options weren't great and offered limited gains even if successful.

turcopolier

LondonBob

A recently deceased friend fought in the Hurtgen Forest. The infantry of the US divisions in there under all that tree burst artillery was basically wiped out, so, I'm with ya on tis. M-G was worth a try. pl

LeaNder

Thanks, for the work, Pundita. This was pretty helpful for me.

Not least the Southfront article. Finally helped me to connect separate bits and pieces on my mind, I seem to have never been guite able to connect: Desert Hawks.

lucopter

Babak, I agree with you. I am not disputing the historical facts.

I am just pointing out that given the current situation where there exists a huge disparity in power projection between Israel and Iran, does it make sense for Iran to keep this going, or would it be better for them to figure out a way to deescalate the situation?

I guess one could argue that its not possible to deescalate because Israel doesn't want it. Which is probably true. But Iran could score much bigger political victory by taking the first big step and recognizing the state of Israel.

A nation's policies shouldn't be formulated with the goal of fighting injustice around the world. A nation's foreign policy should be based on pragmatic approach that elevates the long-term preservation of the nation as the primary goal. One should not take actions that would put one's nation at unnecessary risk.

Babak Makkinejad

Thank you for your comments.

Like all US friend and allies - barring France and UK - Israel has little ability to project power beyond a few tens of kilometers outside of its border.

Furthermore, over the last 2500, Yehud has not done anything against Iran (or what contemporary Iranians consider to have been Iran). Yehud will not do so now either.

What Israelis would like to do is to have NATO attack Iran, and that task has been delegated to their co-coreligionists in US, UK, France as well as Shoah Cultists; to accomplish through their lies and propaganda.

And if you are thinking of Israel using nuclear weapons against Iran; well, that would be their last act as a state as well as the death of US & Co. as a global political alliance.

Furthermore, in my opinion, Iran does not need Israel. It is Israel that needs Iran to work its way back into the good graces of the World of Islam. Now, Israel leaders could fly to Tehran and negotiate the disposition of Palestine with Iranian leaders; they could put the transfer of Custodianship of the Al Haram Al Sharif to the Supreme Jurisprudent of Iran - that might get the Iranian leaders interested.

Your last statement:

"A nation's foreign policy should be based on pragmatic approach that elevates the long-term preservation of the nation as the primary goal" is fine as far as it goes.

But I do not think that any state or country save the United Kingdom has performed that feat over the last 600 years.

And then we have the examples of Serbia, Iraq and Libya; enough said.

Lurker

Certainly, it looks like an entente between USA and Russia but UK, Israel and France who started this (with the Saudis) may not be excited about it. Another False Flag might be in the offing.

turcopolier

LeaNder

I have been thinking of the words "kraut" and "meister." I suppose that "meister kraut" could be applied to people like; Goethe, Schiller, Mendelssohn, von Rundstedt while "kraut meister" might be someone who makes a great "choucroute?" Speaking of that a French lady friend of ours in Sanaa whipped up a grea choucroute once based on supplies I bought from the supply officer of a visiting US naval vessel and the usual sauerkraut. Sanaa is at about 8,000 feet in altitude. We had all had a few drinks and blew up like balloons. She could also produce a marvelous leg of lamb, redolent of rosemary, thyme, etc. this was entitled "Gigot de Janine." She it was who announced one day that I would just start speaking French the way a little child does from constant exposure, and so it was. pl

LeaNder

It is an interesting study. I wouldn't have thought, admittedly.

He was rather contemptuous of military academic training as in staff colleges, writing that it was a poor substitute for actual experience

Already in the introduction he makes it quite clear that his study rests on two pillars his experience and the more academic study of war at his time. He seems to be challenging the writing on the military of his time, but he does it quite slyly.

LeaNder

And considering Recep has effed over one and all, could there be a quiet global consensus to send him to the world beyond and blame it on Daesh?

Interesting. Who would be in and who would be out of such a global consensus?

To the extend this can be understood at all out of the whole context, concerning the equation between PKK and Daesh, what is the hard evidence that acts of terrorism in Turkey were committed by PKK fighters who leaked out of Northern Syria into Turkey? How is the state of affairs between the Kurds in Turkey and the Turkish military?

LeaNder

Yehud=Yehud Medinata?

they could put the transfer of Custodianship of the Al Haram Al Sharif to the Supreme Jurisprudent of Iran - that might get the Iranian leaders interested.

Ooops. ...

LeaNder

The French are called frogs, aren't they? Since they eat frog legs, I guess. My grandpa wanted to introduce me to them as kid, but I opted out after having watched them kicking in the pan while they were salted. Gave the impression they were still somehow living. Since my grand pa is gone, frog legs are gone too. Never ate them after, but everyone tried to convince me how tasty they are.

I always wondered if choucroute is purely Alsatian, but maybe it isn't. Anyway a friend of mine had it sent to London. He missed it. Maybe he can get it now.

Once I stumbled across a remark about the Polish community in America. Their reheated cabbage seems to have been hard for the delicate American nose, or maybe even cabbage more generally. Anyway, my father, who turns blind, makes him even more difficult to deal with, loves it most if it is reheated, or cooked twice. ;)

turcopolier

LeaNder

Janine was from Lorraine which is pretty close to Alsace. pl

Thomas

"Interesting. Who would be in and who would be out of such a global consensus?"

The out camp would be the Muslim Brotherhood, some of the West Coast Gulfies (it depends if their personal hatred towards Recep overrides the strategic game playing) and individual bit players with influence on the Sultan not wanting to lose their privileged access. In camp is all others.

How is the state of affairs between the Kurds in Turkey and the Turkish military?

Low intensity civil war.

fanto

BM,
you made very good replies to lucopter. Thank you. It seemed to me from the beginning of his entries that he is a clever troll pushing pro izzy agenda.

LeaNder

"West Coast Gulfies"?

Apart from the US, triggered by the "West Coast" part, there is only the Persian Gulf left.

LondonBob

Elijah Magnier saying there will be an airborne element to the DEZ push. Following on from the Market Garden discussion lets hope the planners emulate the likes of 'Windy' Gale rather than the incompetents of Brereton, Browning and Urquhart.

YT

Ma'am,

This pagan Chink bids you: Happy Mothers' Day.

"Love is patient and kind.

Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude.

It does not demand its own way.

It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged.

It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out.

Love never gives up,never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance."

– 1 Corinthians 13:4-7

(My 68 year-old mother suffers from glaucoma, so I understand your frustrations...)

The comments to this entry are closed.

My Photo

October 2020

Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
        1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10
11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31
Blog powered by Typepad