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06 April 2017

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EEngineer

Real war based on fake news is going to take us over the event horizon.

plantman

Are attacks on Syrian targets imminent??

I just listened to a recording with Philip Giraldi who thinks things are moving very fast.

Do you have anything you can pass on, Colonel?

Tillerson's comments today leave little doubt that something very serious is going on behind the scenes.

Jack

Sir

Deja vu. Iraqi WMD, all over again. The war party is dominant. No longer any doubt.

Putin's got some hard thinking to do in the next hours. I don't believe he'll risk a confrontation. The Russian military and their equipment will be withdrawn before the bombs away begins. Unless Assad is given asylum in Moscow and surrenders his government to the Freedom Fighters aka jihadis. Hezbollah will likely be under fire too.

Pax Americana will get a new lease of life to inure to the benefit of the ziocons.

turcopolier

plantman

PG is my friend. We talked today. Sources must be protected. Come up to the front. pl

Larry Kart

I understand that Trump makes judgments based on 24/7 TV news, and I understand that the Borgist press is beating the drums for war. What I don't understand is why the non-Borgist media --Fox News, for one, or any alt-Right outlets? -- isn't trying to put the brakes on or at least raising doubts/asking questions about this dubious (to say the least) gas attack. The only voice of any note I've heard from in that vein is Ron Paul.

turcopolier

Larry Kart

It appears that Fox News has been gelded. pl

C L

All

Who / what is creditable enough to deliver an intelligence assessment acceptable to all?

Is this Wag the Dog

CL

doug

Looks like all the anti-Russia election hysteria has paid dividends and boxed Trump in. Now they are being cashed. Disgusting.

Pundita

I fear that America's president is now dependent on his son-in-law to do his thinking for him on international matters. And further I fear that Jared Kushner is trying to help Israel overthrow Syria's government in a bid to eject Iranian and Lebanese forces from Syria.

Whether or not the situation is as dire as I fear, there is no excuse for Donald Trump going along what is clearly nothing more than a lynch mob.

CNN, April 6 - 3:27 PM ET: Trump on Syria's Assad: 'Something should happen'
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/donald-trump-syria-options/

President Donald Trump said Thursday that "something should happen" with regard to Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad in the wake of this week's chemical attack, which US officials say he perpetrated."I think what Assad did is terrible. I think what happened in Syria is one of the truly egregious crimes. It shouldn't have happened. It shouldn't be allowed to happen,"

Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One. "I think what happened in Syria is a disgrace to humanity. He's there, and I guess he's running things, so something should happen."

Earlier Thursday, Trump told some members of Congress that he is considering military action in Syria in retaliation for the chemical attack, and recognizes the seriousness of the situation, a source familiar with the calls told CNN.

The source said the President had not firmly decided to go ahead with it but said he was discussing possible actions with Defense Secretary James Mattis.

US officials told CNN the Pentagon has long-standing options to strike Syria's chemical weapons capability and has presented those options to the administration.

The sources stressed a decision has not been made.

Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, told reporters Thursday that it's his "understanding" that Trump is consulting with Mattis and national security adviser H.R. McMaster on Syria. He does not know what they will recommend to him, but believes they will provide him with an "excellent" option.

McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham issued a joint statement earlier in the day calling for military action, recommending an international coalition "to ground Assad's air force."

"We agree with the President that Assad has crossed a line with his latest use of chemical weapons. The message from the United States must be that this will not stand. We must show that no foreign power can or will protect Assad now. He must pay a punitive cost for this horrific attack," they said.

They added: "In addition to other measures, the United States should lead an international coalition to ground Assad's air force. This capability provides Assad a strategic advantage in his brutal slaughter of innocent civilians, both through the use of chemical weapons as well as barrel bombs, which kill far more men, women and children on a daily basis ... Ultimately, the grounding of Assad's air force can and should be part of a new comprehensive strategy to end the conflict in Syria."

Chemical attack

Trump on Wednesday called the chemical attack that killed more than 70 people in Syria as a "heinous" act that had changed his views on Assad.

"Yesterday's chemical attack, a chemical attack that was so horrific in Syria against innocent people, including women, small children and even beautiful little babies, their deaths were an affront to humanity," Trump said, speaking in the Rose Garden alongside Jordan's King Abdullah.

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Matt

Hi,

the Borg Drums are pounding away in the UK,

on the BBC Radio 4 World at One, the most sober and definative news source in the UK, I was astonished to heard it clearly stated that Assad was guilty and it was up to Syria to prove it's innocence,

an inversion of the fundamental precept in British law, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty,

The Grauniad is also claiming to have a reporter on the ground, something I find rather fishy,

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/06/the-dead-were-wherever-you-looked-inside-syrian-town-after-chemical-attack

I'm also hearing news reports that Turkey has already performed autopsies,

how is it that all of a sudden people are able to travel freely in 'rebel' held territory to gather 'evidence' of Assad's guilt,

I thought these were no go areas for anyone outside of ISIS/Daesh/AQ circles?

do the masses really believe the mainstream line?

Matt

ToivoS

The Guardian has just sent in one of their reporters (Kareem Shaheen) to cover the latest sarin attack in Syria. Does any one know who Kareem Shaheen is?

This seems to me a major escalation in the western media attack against Assad, the SAA and their Russian and Iranian supporters. If this Guardian story is right (or even if it not right, but is accepted by the West) then it would put tremendous pressure on Trump to actively intervene in the fighting around Idlib province in support of the Jihadist rebels. Can this be happening?

Eric Newhill

Contacted my Rep and both Senators (Schumer and Gillibrand). Talked of none of them directly, of course, but aides said they would pass it along. My House rep (R) will probably get back to me at some point. That's all I can do.

LondonBob

Fox News is another Murdoch neocon outfit, they have to not knock Trump occasionally so they don't lose all their viewers.

A friend of Bannon's has said he attended the NSC today, was about Syria. He maintains Bannon is against and that Trump is considering option, but without intention to act.

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"Along w Mattis & Tillerson, Mnunchin will be at Mar a Lago, reminding DT of econimic implications of military action."

Serge

Terrible, frightening how fast things are moving. Meanwhile in the days since the chemical incident, coalition airstrikes in Mosul have killed at the very least two times over the same amount of people purported to have died in Khan Sheikhoun.

Tel

A war requires Congress to declare it, cannot be done by Executive Order.

BillWade

Called my congressman, had to leave a message, just after 5PM here. Well, Nunes is gone, Bannon seemingly gone, my bet is the Trump-Russia meme is going to fade away fast too, almost as if it never existed.

James Doleman

Bit of a turn-around for many of the commentators who have been hailing Mr Trump.
Any retractions imminent?

Jackrabbit

An attack on Syria is not consistent with 'America First'.

Accepting the bogus narrative means that the troop build-up to supposedly fight ISIS was a ruse.

And even the allegations about Trump's Russian connections/sympathies become suspect. Did these 'paint him into a corner' or allow him to go where he wanted to go?

Matt

Colonel, Russian military unit locations, I assume would be known by US military planners and would be avoided in any air attack?

turcopolier

matt
That would be effective if the Russians want to abandon the Syrians. pl

turcopolier

James Doleman

I will need to see what the actually does. pl

Fred

Jack,

I wonder how the Russians will feel once they have regime change in Moscow; or do they think that the Borg will stop with Damascus?

Lee A. Arnold

Fox News has never, ever, been "non-Borgist". It is a Republican Party propaganda adjunct. It exists solely to be against any position taken by the Democrats. It started in 1996, immediately began hounding the Clintons. Then gave George W. Bush a free ride, carte blanche. Then was against anything Obama did. Then prepared itself to stand behind whomever the Republicans nominated last year (as in every election so far). Now it has been going easy on whatever Trump says, however stupid he gets. It was started by Murdoch and run by Ailes. It is a 24-7-365 machine which any Republican candidate across the nation can plug into, and be supported by. The local affiliates are a little looser in the local news.

Eric Newhill

James,
I am one of the more vocal Trump supporters here. I do not like what appears to be happening and how Trump is dealing with it. However, I am certain Clinton was going to do the same.

If Trump goes through with this I will admit that he wasn't man enough to stand up to the Borg. I may even assess that he was a closet Borgist all along. Depends on the data points that emerge. At this point I think the Borg put his nuts in a vice over the election hacking, Putin connection drama. Still no excuse. If he was as advertised he could have managed through it. His base would have supported him. We will see what happens.

One consolation will be that he won't be calling me a privileged racist while he screws me. Other than that, it may be that they - Swamp dwellers - are all snots from the same nose. Left nostril/right nostril is a distinction without real meaning.

different clue

Larry Kart,

Well, if Bannon is against this and Trump takes Bannon's input seriously, and if Bannon has people reading these threads; lets hope they can get Bannon to bring Trump's attention to this material here in a way that a deeply shallow and illiterate or anti-literate man can be made to understand it.

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