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13 April 2017

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Valissa

"The American people bought that war. War is show business." (said by Robert Di Niro's character in clip below)

Distract the public, justify the war machine - Wag the Dog (1997) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmM8rE_LdFA

Another clip from later in the movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBxF4iaNdQw

Wag the Dog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog

On a more serious note... even if Trump knew it was a false flag, I don't think he would have acted any differently given the pressure cooker he's in. Once that propaganda op got released to the press with a public that's been primed for more than 5 years about how evil Assad is, and given the Borg's ongoing propaganda campaign trying to tie Trump to Russia, and given the pushback Trump has gotten from his war on the IC, what else could he have done? Once again attack the IC? Not in his interest for so many reasons.

He needed a psychological victory and for the establishment to support him in something. So a somewhat lame attack was made on Syria. And it worked for his reputation among the Borg. The truth and reality are rarely relevant to the Borg, except when it makes them look good.

The Beaver

Read and laugh (or cry)

https://www.memri.org/reports/iranian-website-specializing-syrian-war-reports-gas-attack-intended-save-iraniansyrian

Yep, as if Assad was on the defensive and the Zionist w/ an agenda work with the CIA (like Katz from SITE)

Valissa

Yes, Babak, that is technically correct.

But the classic Star Trek phrase is....

"we are Borg... you will be assimilated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8

Swerv21

The Kagans are back at it.

http://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/ISW-CTP%20Recommended%20Course%20of%20Action%20in%20Syria%20and%20Iraq%20March%202017_1.pdf

Priam's Crazy Daughter

I am afraid you are right about that. Resistance was futile. The only slight hope I see is that rather than the Next Generation episodes with the Borg, we think of the Voyager episodes in which at least one Borg was reintegrated into human society, at least in some degree.

But mostly, I have little hope that very many people are left who want to resist the Borg or who can even recognize when they have become assimilated themselves.

Babak Makkinejad

I have expurgated references to Star Trek from my vocabulary lest people think I am a geezer and knew Abraham Lincoln personally.

Mikey

‘There Are No Good Options In Syria,’ Sighs Man Who Has Devoted 12 Minutes Of Research To Topic

http://www.theonion.com/article/there-are-no-good-options-syria-sighs-man-who-has--55758

Six minutes more than the President has devoted to the subject.

Babak Makkinejad

All:

Syria is not a War:

Bardo Music, recorded live in Damascus and Aleppo, September 1996

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2DcSn5atoU&feature=youtu.be

JurisV

Thanks TTG !

And I would recommend the rather nicely done and thorough review of the "Un-Classified" Report from the WhiteHouse by Theodore Postol, which I think is an excellent try at doing what anyone who is interested in TRUTH would do -- an analysis of available information. The link is: https://imgur.com/a/W4zQx#xC7yL6U

It's nicely written in a style that I (being an old engineer/scientist in the aerospace business) really appreciated. And sufficient pictures and charts, etc.

Macgupta123

Bellingcat raises the issue that the first photos/video of gas attack victims occurred some 5 hours before the aerial bombardment that might have hit a rebel chemical weapons storage facility.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/04/10/khan-sheikhoun-chemical-attack-bombed/

turcopolier

WarrenPeese

There was extensive planning for a non CW strike at this placed. pl

WarrenPeese

Then why the communications between Syrian military and "chemical experts"?

John_Frank

FYI A number of items that people may find of value.

As previously posted, the UN - OPCW joint investigative mechanism has determined that both the Syrian Arab Armed Forces and ISIS have launched chemical weapons attacks in the past.

To learn more, people may wish to read the following reports submitted to the UN Security Council:

24 August 2016 - Third report of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons-United Nations Joint Investigative Mechanism (SG letter)
http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/2016/738

21 October 2016 - Fourth report of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons-United Nations Joint Investigative Mechanism (Letter)
http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/2016/888

13 February 2017 - Fifth report of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons-United Nations Joint Investigative Mechanism (Letter)

In the case of the Syrian Arab Armed Forces the chemical weapon was "toxic chemicals" and with ISIS it was "sulfar mustard."

There have been multiple incident reports of the use of chemical weapons on the Syrian battle field since 2013 as further detailed at http://www.uossm.org/news and http://www.uossm.us/press_release.

(UOSSM stands for Union of Medical Care and Relief Organizations.)

Also, although not directly related, people may recall that on September 19, 2016 a relief convoy scheduled to go into Aleppo was attacked and all of the supplies were destroyed.

In response the Secretary General set up a board of inquiry to investigate. People may find the following report of interest:

19 December 2016 - Summary by the Secretary-General of the report of the United Nations Headquarters Board of Inquiry into the incident involving a relief operation to Urum al-Kubra, Syrian Arab Republic, on 19 September 2016 (letter) http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/2016/1093

There has been no finding made as to whether the designated terror organization once known as Al Nusrah Front has launched any chemical weapons attacks.

While the OPCW found that sarin gas was used in the 2013 Ghouta attack, no official determination was made as to who carried out the attack, in part because that was beyond the scope of the OPCW mandate.

As to the claimed chemical weapons attack on April 4 in Khan Sheikhoun, earlier today Reuters reported that:

Chemical weapons experts in Turkey to investigate alleged Syrian sarin attack: Sources
http://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/chemical-weapons-experts-in-turkey-to-investigate-alleged-syrian-sarin-attack

While all the focus has been on the use of sarin gas, according to a press release issued by Doctors without Borders on April 5, their medical teams on the ground observed victims at a number of different medical facilities from the claimed attack "smelled of bleach indicative of possible exposure to chlorine" as well as some victims at one medical facility "displayed symptoms consistent with exposure to an agent sarin gas or similar compounds."

People can read the press release using the following link:
https://twitter.com/MSF_USA/status/849624016776200192

Further, in seeking to sort out what happened, people may find the following reports of some interest.

The first is an interview of Martin Chulov, The Guardian Middle East correspondent on April 7 of value.

His reporting is being relied upon by many of those saying the Syrian Arab Armed Forces carried out a chemical weapons attack on April 4 and in the interview Mr. Chulov provides a summary of what information they have gathered concerning the attack. He also discloses that the Guardian has sent a reported to visit Khan Sheikhoun.

The second is a report published by Syria direct on April 5:

Idlib town reels following major chemical attack: ‘No rebel positions, just people’http://syriadirect.org/news/idlib-town-reels-following-major-chemical-attack-%e2%80%98no-rebel-positions-just-people%e2%80%99/

(It is fair to say that the orientation of those who work for Syria direct is towards the West.)

The third is the transcript of an interview granted by the Syrian President to the AFP's Beirut Bureau Chief on April 12:

Transcript of exclusive AFP interview with Syria's Assad
https://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/13/04/2017/Transcript-of-exclusive-AFP-interview-with-Syria-s-Assad-1

In the interview, the AFP correspondent asks Syria's President about a claim that 20% of the Syrian Air Force was destroyed due to the missile strike. During a joint press briefing on April 11, Defense Secretary Mattis clarified that he meant 20 aircraft were destroyed. People can read a transcript of that briefing at the following link.

Press Conference by Secretary Mattis and Gen. Votel in the Pentagon Briefing Room https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript-View/Article/1148604/press-conference-by-secretary-mattis-and-gen-votel-in-the-pentagon-briefing-room

ICYMI, near the beginning, Secretary Mattis states:

"Last Tuesday on the 4th of April, the Syrian regime attacked its own people using chemical weapons. I have personally reviewed the intelligence, and there is no doubt the Syrian regime is responsible for the decision to attack and for the attack itself."

Also, Reuters has published a report summarizing the key points made by President al-Assad in the AFP interview:

Syria's Assad says Idlib chemical attack 'fabrication': AFP interview
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-assad-idUSKBN17F1NE

As to today's report by the Syrian Arab Armed Forces distributed by the Syrian state media alleging an attack on an ISIS chemical weapons depot in Deir ez-Zor resulting in scores of deaths:

U.S. denies hitting Islamic State poison gas depot with air strike
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN17F18D-OCATP

According to the wire report published by Reuters Canada:

'Responding to Thursday's Syrian army claim, U.S. Air Force Colonel John Dorrian, a spokesman for the coalition, said it had carried out no air strikes in the area of Deir al-Zor at the time.

"The Syrian claim is incorrect and likely intentional misinformation," Dorrian said in an email to Reuters.

The Russian defence ministry said it had no information about people killed in an attack by international coalition forces in Deir al-Zor, according to RIA news agency. A ministry spokesman said Russian forces had sent drones to check the area.'

In addition, in the same report we are told:

The British delegation at the world's chemical weapons watchdog said samples taken from the alleged attack site tested positive for the nerve agent sarin.

"We believe it is highly likely that the attack was carried out by the Assad regime," British Prime Minister Theresa May said in a televised statement. "Apart from anything else, we believe it's only the regime that has the capability to make such an attack."

JurisV

I forgot to mention what I thought was an extremely important point he made regarding a shallow crater with a flattened and damaged "pipe" (he said it was around 122mm --same diam as a rather common rocket). here's my favorite paragraph which discusses the photo of a shallow crater and the pipe remnants within it and what he thinks is a reasonable conclusion from this - with caveats.

>(quote)No competent analyst would assume that the crater cited as the source of the sarin attack was unambiguously an indication that the munition came from an aircraft. No competent analyst would assume that the photograph of the carcass of the sarin canister was in fact a sarin canister. Any competent analyst would have had questions about whether the debris in the crater was staged or real. No competent analyst would miss the fact that the alleged sarin canister was forcefully crushed from above, rather than exploded by a munition within it. All of these highly amateurish mistakes indicate that this White House report, like the earlier Obama White House Report, was not properly vetted by the intelligence community as claimed. < (end quote)

Thirdeye

The Independent, Reuters, and TASS are the sources for this fresh Wikipedia article on the Hatla airstrike. Descriptions of a white cloud turning yellow are remarkably consistent with descriptions of the Khan Shaykhun cloud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatla_airstrike

Alaric

Any thoughts on the claim the US is readying to send 10,000 to 50,000 troops to Syria?

Peter AU

TTG The old man and the scarf you mention also appears in other white helmet productions.
From what I can make of it, a number of people were gassed in a quarry and then white helmet actors (survivors of the attack) were placed amongst them at different points in the videos.

wisedupearly

Hot from the presses.
A senior US official told CNN "We heard them planning a sarin attack in Idlib but decided that telling the world and all those little children would be counter-productive and give the kids bad dreams."
You can't have it both ways. You can't be omnipotent and then claim moral high ground.

JerseyJeffersonian

WarrenPeese,

Why would they lie? In short, careerism. If lying improves their prospects for enrichment in NeoCon think tanks, the MIC, and such, in times to come, well, they're down with that. What are the downsides, after all? Look at how things have worked out for other grand liars and war mongers in recent years, and wonder no more about why they would lie about it.

It is indeed saddening that things have come to such a pass, but in my estimation, they surely have.

JurisV

My apologies for this redundant posting regarding Dr Postol's critical piece on the Whitehouse Document. Missed entirely the post that's directly below from yesterday.

Kooshy

Valissa,
IMO President Trump either got a horse head in his bed or he was lying on what he said he want to do from the get go. Considering this fast pace of full180 degree revirsal on polices he announced during the campaign, I tend to believe he got an offer from the Borg he couldn't refuse. IMO what he is doing don't make sense and or will not help him at all, this is, since the Borgistas will never want him or will ever trust him, in the meantime he is loosing his base, likes of Taylor. Not that he doesn't know this, but I don't think he has any better choice with 35% popularity than playing along with Borg.

WarrenPeese

Trump was the most anti-neocon candidate relative to all the others, including Hillary and except for maybe Rand Paul. It isn't plausible that he had a sudden conversion to the McCain wing.

ked

Reports of any kind out of the Trump regime's DC ops center should carry the same weight as those from the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans circa 2002.

wisedupearly

McCain, front and center. March 6, 2017
"Just a matter of days after John McCain’s “unusual” trip to Syria and Turkey, the Turkish government has cut off water supplies from the Euphrates River into northern Syria, violating international conventions on water rights."
https://geopolitics.co/2017/03/06/syrias-water-cut-off-by-turkey-following-mccain-erdogan-meeting/#comments

Photo of McCain and various "characters" caption reads
"Sen. John McCain visited rebels in Syria on Monday, his communications director confirmed to CNN, making the Arizona Republican the highest ranking elected official from the United States to visit the war-torn country since its civil war began over two years ago."

Alaric

Is it possible that trump is making moves to force Russia, in particular, to end the Syrian war already? Russia and Iran have allowed this to drag on, perhaps because the ensuing chaos/immigration has benefitted them. They could and should end it.

That would be very clever of trump and he doesn't strike me as all that clever.

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