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11 April 2017

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Jackrabbit

Was it McMaster (military historian) that choose to launch 59 missiles?

Cold War Messaging Yields Insight Into US-Russian Conflict
https://jackrabbitnyc.wordpress.com/2017/04/12/cold-war-messaging-yields-insight-into-us-russian-conflict/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true

English Outsider


Google translate gives a slightly different translation of the archived version:-

"Tomorrow, a media campaign will be launched to cover the intensity of the air raids on the countryside of Hama and the use of chlorine against civilians."

ie "Chlorine" instead of "CW", if the translation is accurate.

Babak Makkinejad

c'mon man, they are all narcissists - otherwise they would not have run for political office.

Kunuri

Sorry, I can't do it, cant bear to see those dead people and children over and over to give you a proper analysis. But I can tell you that several videos I have seen were put together by someone who really knows how to edit, what to include, what to leave out, how to cut and switch, and how to maintain momentum for maximum emotional response. Just the fact that it had been edited so effectively, in such a short time indicates that there is a purpose and preparation for it. It is suspicious for the fact that it is not raw war footage. Think of the videos from the Halabja Kurds footage we have all seen.

And also I am confused as to the location of where actually people have died, the quarry? Or the town itself, since some videos show people lying dead in natural, almost sleeplike poses, rather than the agonized shapes of dead people lying down, as victims of gravity as well as what caused them to die. Too tidy in their body poses. Grouped too evenly, too much in a pattern. Too well spaced out, even intentional random spacing can not escape revealing patterns. That is what I see. Think of the photos of the St. Valentines Day massacre photos. Everything was messy and random, not clean. When a group of people die at the same time, no matter how sudden, one sees true randomness and variety of gestures.
Macabre subject, did not want to get into it, but I do not believe Assad did it. The whole thing reminds me of the propaganda movies people are watching in "1984".

John_Frank

fyi Russia vetoes West’s Syria resolution at UN Security Council
https://www.rt.com/news/384534-un-resulution-syria-chemical/

Unfortunate. Russia demands a fair and independent investigation and then vetoes a proposed resolution.

Despite this, one hopes that the two sides will continue to work towards finding common ground and come forward with a resolution that both sides can live with.

Also from RT

White House claims on Syria chemical attack ‘obviously false’ – MIT professor https://on.rt.com/88p4

The report is by Professor Theodore Postol, who also challenged the Obama administration claims in 2013 is linked in the RT report.

Asessment of White House April 17, 2017 Intelligence Report of April 11, 2017 Page 1 of 14 Pages
April 11, 2017

A Quick Turnaround Assessment of the White House Intelligence Report Issued on April 11, 2017 About the Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria.
Theodore A. Postol Professor Emeritus of Science, Technology, and National Security Policy Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Dear Larry:

I am responding to your distribution of what I understand is a White House statement claiming intelligence findings about the nerve agent attack on April 4, 2017 in Khan Shaykhun, Syria.

My understanding from your note is that this White House intelligence summary was released to you sometime on April 11, 2017.

I have reviewed the document carefully, and I believe it can be shown, without doubt, that the document does not provide any evidence whatsoever that the US government has concrete knowledge that the government of Syria was the source of the chemical attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria at roughly 6 to 7 a.m. on April 4, 2017.

In fact, a main piece of evidence that is cited in the document points to an attack that was executed by individuals on the ground, not from an aircraft, on the morning of April 4.

This conclusion is based on an assumption made by the White House when it cited the source of the sarin release and the photographs of that source.

My own assessment, is that the source was very likely tampered with or staged, so no serious conclusion could be made from the photographs cited by the White House.

However, if one assumes, as does the White House, that the source of the sarin was from this location and that the location was not tampered with, the most plausible conclusion is that the sarin was dispensed by an improvised dispersal device made from a 122 mm section of rocket tube filled with sarin and capped on both sides.

The only undisputable facts stated in the White House report is the claim that a chemical attack using nerve agent occurred in Khan Shaykhun, Syria on that morning. Although the White House statement repeats this point in many places within its report, the report contains absolutely no evidence that this attack was the result of a munition being dropped from an aircraft. In fact, the report contains absolutely no evidence that would indicate who was the perpetrator of this atrocity."

People can also read the full report at the following link, as uploaded by RT America.
https://www.scribd.com/document/344995943/Report-by-White-House-Alleging-Proof-of-Syria-as-the-Perpetrator-of-the-Nerve-Agent-Attack-in-Khan-Shaykhun-on-April-4-2017#from_embed

This arguably helps those calling for an independent investigation by the UN - OPCW "with teeth" should either side fail to comply with the investigators access demands.

Nancy K

Obama didn't have to try to look good, he did. His speech was also eloquent. My four year old grandson has a better vocabulary than Trump. To imply he looks good because beautiful women married him says as much about them as him.

novicius

John, I'm starting to get a big dose of Buyer's Remorse. Thanks for your input.

Marko

Yes , I recall seeing some discussion of that on twitter. It seems there was a change at some point from chlorine to CW in the English tweets that was being viewed suspiciously by many , as if there might have been a sudden change in plans.

Fred

Brunswick,

And external player tried on 9-11. That plane hit the Pentagon.

English Outsider


The Syrian poison gas attack is also discussed on ZDF. (From comment from "Troy Ounce" on ZH.)

https://www.zdf.de/gesellschaft/markus-lanz/markus-lanz-vom-5-april-2017-100.html

Also significant that it's on a German mainstream TV station. Ties in with David Habbakkuk's summary earlier in SST and also mentions the Turkish assistance to the Jihadis.

Fred

Willyb,

I note that the Pritzker’s were big backers of Obama throughout his career. Penny Pritzker, who is at least as rich as Trump, served as Commerce Secretary; not that the left complained of any potential financial gains to her that could result from government policy under Obama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Pritzker

After reading your piece I was struck by just where McMaster did not turn his attention: South. To reference the McMaster quotes you provide: “the will of the …. “ How about the will of US Citizens towards acceptance of the traditional social order in the US?

“the US response was to continue draw down forces in Europe. "And what we're seeing now is we've awakened to, obviously, this threat from Russia,”
Instead of looking Eastward across the Litani or the Berezina to Damascus and Moscow the warrior sage could look South of the Rio Bravo. We weakened the border and a result “we’ve awakened to, obviously, the threat from unrestrained immigration of people who do not or will not assimilate.

“but a much more sophisticated campaign involving the use of criminality and organized crime, and really operating effectively on this battleground of perception and information, and in particular part of a broader effort to sow doubt and conspiracy theories across our alliance…”

Sophisticated campaign involving criminality and organized crime? That sounds like Mexico.
“…to collapse the post-World War II, certainly the post-Cold War, security, economic, and political order in, and replace that order with something that is more sympathetic to Russian interests."

to collapse the, security, economic, and political order in the USA, and replace that order with something that is more sympathetic to Utopian Left’s interests. That has been why the border is weakened and executive power strengthened. The Utopian left lost the last election, now they are in “resistance” to the constitutional order. Nothing like another foreign war to further discredit the federal government structure. Didn’t the Bolsheviks perfect this in early 1920s?

Babak Makkinejad

The Bolsheviks actually had a positive program of Nation Building that they put into practice.

They truly upgraded the Muzik and the Ra'iyat (among Muslims) and built upon the state structures of the Russian Empire.

Cee

Willy B,

On McMasters ties

http://disobedientmedia.com/h-r-mcmasters-ties-to-soros-supported-think-tank-raise-questions/

LondonBob

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-13/trump-said-no-to-troops-in-syria-his-aides-aren-t-so-sure

So Eli Lake once again confirms a scoop of Mike Cernovich's, although he says McMaster wants to send 50,000 troops to Syria and Iraq. Looks like McMaster has been over promoted and distinctly lacks the foreign policy outlook of his boss.

Mikey

Trump said no, another chem attack forthcoming.

Fred

They built some fine infrastructure in the gulag archipelago too.

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