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01 February 2017

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ex-PFC Chuck

Meanwhile, the pot in Ukraine begins to simmer again.
https://southfront.org/military-escalation-in-eastern-ukraine-in-last-days-of-january/
https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/bite-and-hold/

Sam Peralta

Fred,

No logic required when you can wet your bed with NeverTrump scary thoughts!

I'm worried these guys may get a stroke. If Trump's first week is driving them so loopy what will happen when Trump and his svengali Bannon figure out their way to the pool room in the WH.

ex-PFC Chuck

Here's the link to Mona Chalabi's Op Ed.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Chalabi+guardian&t=h_&ia=web
I used to read her columns frequently when she was at FiveThirtyEight and wondered whether she might be related.

The Twisted Genius

ex-PFC Chuck,

I've noticed that, too. This time the Novorossiya Armed Forces are shooting back pretty forcefully and there are serious casualties. This happened a few times since Poroshenko had his ass handed to him at Debaltseve in February 2015. If this develops into something more protracted, I'll post something on the situation.

Origin

What? Send in the troops to install Chalabi? Or chase the Shia militias to Iran? Does he have dreams of "reclaiming" the Iraq Obama "lost"? Or is he just delusional?

VietnamVet

KH

If Russia, Europe, Iran, China and the USA unite together, the radicalized Islamists can be defeated in the cities in Syria and Iraq. The Caliphate will cease to exist. Colonel Lang’s Idlib Province campaign will come to a successful conclusion. Collateral damage will diminish. If not, and the resupply continues, the fighting will never end. The resistance to foreign invaders never dies as long as there are a People still alive to fight. Likewise, the Deplorables will never acquiesce to domination by foreign globalists. The only way there ever will be peace is if prosperity returns and the borders are secured. Is this possible? The Elite would have to give up their transnational institutions, power and endless wars. The Democrats continue to ignore the plight of the Middle Class, blame their election loss on the Russians and espouse globalism and war. The White House and Corporate Media are at war. Does Steve Bannon’s nationalism support equality under the law for all and the use of wealth to benefit society that is required to heal the economy? We shall see what happens if we live long enough.

Babak Makkinejad

The best way to help Kurds is to bring these wars in Syria, Iraq, and Turkey to an end as quickly as possible.

Babak Makkinejad

The "Islamic Insurgency" was moving Eastward - it was stopped at Iraqi Kurdistan by Iranian troops.

I heard that there are Iranian troops on the Qandil mountains as well now.

This Islamic Insurgency has much better chance of traction outside of the Seljuk boundary - in Central Asia, in Africa, in Pakistan & India, and in the rest of the Arab world; in my opinion.


Babak Makkinejad

Russia needs Iran and will oscillate between the two poles of un-Enemy of Iran and an un-Friend of Iran.

As for Russia trying to appease Trump: not in the cards. What does Trump have to offer; will he dissolve NATO, or instruct NATO forces to withdraw to within a 1000 kilometers of Moscow?

I think not.

Western Fortress and the Russian Federation are locked in a power struggle over Ukraine etc. Even if Western sanctions are removed against the Russian Federation, the defensive posture of that country will not change anytime soon unless and until NATO is gone.

Ukraine was another casualty - before that there was Yugoslavia.

Trust that the Russians will continue to nibble at Ukraine and regain control of Kiev - the birthplace of their state - by hook or by crook.

I personally lament the demise of the Peace of Yalta, until something like that is re-established, there would be many more such events.

Fred

My my Origin have you completely forgotten what Ahmed Chalabi did? If you're going full troll you'll need to do better than that.

Fred

Origin,

Will that be by Putin's order or just because he's Hitler?

robt willmann

Further south, in what has become the Yemen theatre of war, a story from Reuters concerns the commando raid on an "Al Qaeda" place there during the weekend in which one Navy Seal soldier was killed. Although the headline presents the issue of whether civilians were killed, a few paragraphs down show that some leaking is going on, as a question is raised about whether sufficient planning and preparation were done before the attack took place--

"U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

... [skip some]

The U.S. officials said the extremists’ base had been identified as a target before the Obama administration left office on Jan. 20, but then-President Barack Obama held off approving a raid ahead of his departure.

A White House official said the operation was thoroughly vetted by the previous administration and that the previous defense secretary [that would be Ash Carter] had signed off on it in January. The raid was delayed for operational reasons, the White House official said.

The military officials who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity said 'a brutal firefight' killed Owens and at least 15 Yemeni women and children. One of the dead was the 8-year-old daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, a militant killed by a 2011 U.S. drone strike.

Some of the women were firing at the U.S. force, Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis told reporters."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-commando-idUSKBN15G5RX

The White House said that the raid was delayed for "operational reasons", according to the article. That broad phrase can include just about anything.

Regardless, real combat is not like the entertainment in the movies or on television, nor is it like the deceptively named "reality TV shows", nor is it the equivalent of rhetoric. Instead, it is reality itself.

turcopolier

Robert Willman

It should not be expected that POTUS/CinC should personally approve minor operations such as this. There is no reason to think that the chain of command running south from SECDEF should not handle such decisions based on broad guidance from the Commander in Chief. pl

The Twisted Genius

robt willmann,

What struck me about this report was this sentence.

"U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations."

Those military officials seem to be laying the blame on Trump. Unless the generals told Trump of these misgivings, strenuously recommended against going forward and were ordered to go forward anyways, they were wrong in trying to lay this one on Trump. Perhaps that's exactly what the military officials were trying to say in a samizdat kind of way, but that would be a serious accusation.

I would think AQ is getting very good at countering many of our reconnaissance capabilities and at detecting them when we use them. These kinds of raids are getting tougher to pull off. I also wonder about those SOC Ospreys. Have they been silenced to the extent that other SOC aircraft have been silenced? The ones I've been around (little birds and the like) are as quiet as owls. I hear regular Ospreys flying overhead every other day now. I have never heard a noisier aircraft.

The Twisted Genius

pl,

I'm amazed at how high up the Chain of Command the decisions for these operations go. I'd be very surprised if the final decision for this raid did not come from POTUS/CinC. JSOC gets off on that kind of thing. The same kind of raid during the height of our war in Iraq and Iran would be routinely controlled in theater, but the situation in this case is more unique.

Origin

Was this Trump's first Situation Room event?

Origin

I know Chalabi never ruled and was a complete charatan.

The Twisted Genius

Origin,

We don't know. I think the decision would have reached that level, but Colonel Lang reasonably thinks the decision for this operation would have occurred at a lower level.

Fred

Origin,

The foreign policy establishment did not believe he was a charlatan.

ann

Saudi Arabia buys a huge amount of weapons from the U.S. I find myself sounding like a broken record, sorry, but what if part of this is just about keeping the war machine in the U.S. fully employed?

ann

I have read that Obama did the same thing. Pick and choose targets. Not unlike Bush and his "deck of cards". Bad idea for people with No military experience, yes, but this does feed an ego.

turcopolier

ann

LBJ did it also. You don't get the point. It is simply beneath the dignity of his office for a president to directly insert himself in the chain of command to conduct minor operations. pl

turcopolier

ann

Ah, good old "Merchants of Death" ideology. Stupid. pl

turcopolier

TTG

I don't know at what level this approval was made but it should not have been made by the president. What the hell do we have SECDEF and the generals for? pl

turcopolier

Origin

His "first situation room event?" You want to place blame on the president for the conduct and fortunes of war mishaps of a small operation 5,000 miles away? Have you no sense of proportion at all or has your "righteous" angst carried you completely away? pl

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