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11 January 2017

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Fred

Walrus,

"memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative..."

Is his code name "slime ball"? We know just how good the info was from "curveball" was in the last run up to war.....

LeeG

Dang, and Trump was doing such a good job dignifying the role of president elect with his early am tweets.

turcopolier

Stu Wood

If Trump's business is heavily funded from Russia you have a point, IF ... Where is the proof? Have you looked at his financial statement filed with the FEC? As for the ridiculous fabrication about his supposedly letting whores piss in Obama's hotel bed, are you seriously telling us you believe that nonsense? pl

Eric Newhill

Peter,
Right. We should apply Occam's Razor and realize that these people running with the story are very stupid and incompetent.

But, boy, it sure would have been a savvy sting from Team Trump to release the story for the ultimate purpose of totally discrediting the MSM and the lunatic McCain.

There are ways that a public figure can still initiate a libel suit. I hope Trump goes for it and ends up owning Buzzfeed and CNN.

Fred

Tyler,

Also - nobody is talking about Obama's farewell address. Talk about irrelevant.

Vic

"Past work by this operative was considered by US intelligence to be credible....". If true, this alone should generate a congressional investigation into CIA sourcing standards. It would also not hurt for congress to propose CIA reforms and reorganization suggestions to the new administration.

This will probably be opposed by the "old boys club" of former CIA agents and analysts who are now in government, academia, think tanks, and news organizations. Their push back will be quick and organized.

Vic

Eric Newhill

Bobo,
In my more paranoid moments I worry about Trump experiencing airplane crashes, lone gunmen, terrorist attacks, plutonium in the salt shaker......

Stu Wood

All I read was sexual compromise so I assumed it was heterosexual sex which is probably something he would not care if exposed.

Babak Makkinejad

Western politician: "I decide who is a radical Muslim."

kooshy

..............and by CNN' wolf B. just the night before the new secretary of state' ( a putin' agent) confirmation hearing .

Ishmael Zechariah

Col. Lang, SST;
A couple of non-rhetorical questions:
1-Is there any background investigation of presidential candidates prior to the election? If so, who does this? IMO, since the president-elect automatically gets the highest security clearance possible(?), someone must have done due diligence(?).
2-Can Mr. Trump & Co. take private legal action against the publication of such unverified, bizarre, claims, or are they, now, public personas who can be slandered w/ impunity?

Coming after Fred's Paris story, this is a bummer. What is going on?
Ishmael Zechariah

Lars

It appears that our lives are now part of a TV reality show. Of course, realism left the stage a long time ago. At some point a majority of Americans will have to decide whether they want solid governing, or just continuous entertainment. Right now it seems the latter is on the menu.

Just remember: We have the best government money can buy.

eakens

If the Russians owned him because they were the lender of last resort in 2008 when the liquidity dried up, then by 2013-2014 he would have refinanced whatever debt they gave him, at lower rates, and he would no longer be beholden to him.

The guy has said he wants to have a normal relationship with Russia, and defeat ISIS, and all of a sudden he's a Manchurian candidate. I hope the first thing he does is start working up to break the corporate media, because despite their waning influence, they have managed to partially corrupt a whole generation of people's minds.

Frank

So some prankster from 4chan feeds a ridiculously fake story to a DNC operative, who foolishly buys it then forwards it on to the CIA, who foolishly puts it in their official intelligence report. They then conclude that Russia plans to blackmail Trump, with this completely made up story...

Just let all that sink in

kooshy

This tweet by DT says it all

"Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
I win an election easily, a great "movement" is verified, and crooked opponents try to belittle our victory with FAKE NEWS. A sorry state!"

JohnH

To listen to media reports, Trump is the new Saddam Hussein. Only question is, how will the war be prosecuted?

Ghostship

From what I understand of British intelligence, counter-intelligence is handled by MI5 and intelligence is handled by MI6 and they each had their own turf where the other was not welcome except when it comes to terrorism. So how would a UK domestic operator have contacts in Russia?

turcopolier

IZ

The president holds his position by constitutional election. His/her right to hold office is derived from election in the electoral college. There is no authority higher than the president's. Who would you want to tell us who can be president, the FBI? The president has no security clearance. he is the supreme classifying authority. Members of Congress and federal judges including SCOTUS have no security clearances. They have access because of their constitutional office. I suppose the president could sue. pl

HawkOfMay

My first thought is "live by the sword, die by the sword". President Elect Trump jumped on the birther band wagon early and for political reasons. This had its own corrosive effect on our democracy. The birther conspiracy was propaganda designed to rile the masses. I now I'm speaking to choir here but in this day and age we all need to be news analysts and very skeptical of what we see and read.

My own opinion about what is going in is that we are dealing with a combination of reality ( Trump's dealings with Russia are deeper than he lets on), propaganda, and theater. One theory I've come across is that all these rumors about President Elect Trump are false but they actually do come from Russian sources. Why? Because what better way to damage American democracy.

President Elect Trump is not dealing with the situation very well either. Twitter is a very imprecise method of communication and allows a great deal of leeway in how his comments are interpreted. Trump defending himself with a 'Because Russia said so' is an incredibly weak defense. A much stronger defense would be to release his financial records and his tax returns.

turcopolier

HawkoMay

What was revealed in the WikiLeaks e-mails was the shoddy treatment given to sanders. Yes, that damaged American democracy but no one has challenged the truth pf this ugliness. pl

turcopolier

Stu Wood

Ah, I see. You are either a childish troll spreading unsourced and unvetted rumor or a malicious political operative. pl

Frank

Twitter is a perfect way to go around the mainstream media, which has proven they will manipulate and twist any story or even create their own to damage Trump anyway.

How else do you suggest he communicate directly with the American people without going through a verifiably compromised media complex?

Ishmael Zechariah

Colonel,
Thank you. I now understand that "access through constitutional office" is the US law.
I was more thinking along the lines that the DNC or RNC would hire a competent private outfit to do some background checks and then inform a candidate that easily reachable skeletons exist in his/her closet. Or they might go public w/ the results, or inform the law... Would this constitute blackmail?

The current smear campaign is very strange. They had this "information" beforehand.

Ishmael Zechariah

Freudenschade

Porkchop,

Before ascribing such a noble hacker ethic to 4chan, it pays to look into its history. Do they make stuff up? Absolutely. All around the points of the compass. I'm still waiting to find out for which celebrity nude image leak the myriad users of 4chan were responsible and which were just a hoax or false claim. I'd take any 4chan stories with a dairy farm sized salt lick.

BuddhistHarmony

It's well-known that Trump in his biographies & many news articles that Trump is a germaphobe & clean freak who avoids shaking hands, pressing elevator buttons with his hands & avoiding using public restroooms
so the claim that he would be even in the same room as 2 strangers peeing in his hotel bedroom is likely a hoax

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/07/10/15-Facts-You-Didn-t-Know-About-Donald-Trump
&
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/the-7-oddest-things-donald-trump-thinks-214354

Also, Colonel Lang, is this true & debunks it? "The Trump-Russia intel document headers are “CONFIDENTIAL / SENSITIVE SOURCE” and the source is allegedly ex-MI6.

The US and UK don’t use that header in ANY sensitive material."

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