Open Thread - 26 November 2016

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[Green Zone Café]

First, I'll never leave an HTML tag open at the end of a post again.

The reaction to the film is consistent with the theme of the film: American civilians only want rah-rah war stuff or victim veteran narratives. The film provides neither.

[Cee]

All,

On Trump. Also Zero Hedge has been classified by the Washington Post as a fake news source

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-19/fear-and-loathing-inside-deep-state

[Fred]

I see an Obama administration vetted refugee from Somalia committed a Nice style terror attack on the campus of Ohio State University (located in Columbus Ohio, the state capital). Headline: "Police identify suspect as business student" Talk about fake news - the fake reporting of news that is.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/11/28/active-shooter.html
Notice the title still reads "active-shooter". (I copied this at 8:25pm with the latest update.) The Columbus Dispatch is the local paper. Can't violate the narrative.

[bernard]

Yes I had a look at the ProPornot.com list and I was disappointed at a couple of omissions. Some usual suspects like counterpunch, antiwar.com, naked capitalism, zerohedge, the Saker, even moonofalabama were duly listed but SST didn't make the cut!

Those people were probably confused by all the talk about the 'borg'. That was a code they couldn't crack. More mentions of 'Putin', 'Russia', 'Putin' please! That should give them a vital clue.

[Ralph]

This is either a tempest in a teapot or the beginning of WWIII: According to South Front quoting a Ukrainian news site, Russia is threatening to shoot down the missiles and take out the launchers:
https://southfront.org/russia-says-its-ready-for-retaliatory-strike-if-ukraine-conduct-missile-strikes-near-crimea-report/

[Cee]

Fred,

Interesting that Obama expanded the war on terror to Somalia a few days prior to this action. Nobody has mentioned the thoughts of the deceased on that.

[Cee]

Yes. HRC didn't oppose it, Obama waffled. If anyone who goes or sends supplies and has been inferferred with or fined contact NorthDakota@ACLU.org

[Cee]

All,

Thoughts on Petraeus?

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/11/30/trump-ponders-petraeus-for-senior-job/

[Fred]

Cee,

Can't be trusted. The only one worse on the list is Bolton. He'd be a fool to give the job to either one. He should have asked Gingrich though Giuliani can do the job too.

[Degringolade]

Sirs:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah-palin-consideration-va-secretary/story?id=43878336

[turcopolier]

Degringolade

Considering the size of the VA budget ... pl

[Keith Harbaugh]

Colonel, to what is this a response?
Yes, to something by Degringolade, but where is it?
It seems a pain to have to find it.
Why not make your reply to his post, rather than as a new comment?
I suppose there may be a reason, but I wonder what it is.
Or is there a simple way to answer my first question?
Thanks for your addressing this issue (I hope).

[turcopolier]

Harbaugh

It is a joke. Do you understand the concept of humor? pl

[Keith Harbaugh]

I think so.
I recognize that "Where did we go wrong?" is often meant as humor,
and wasn't meaning to ask about that.

But the question remains, to what does your response of "Yes" pertain?
And, if it pertains to something above, why not make your comment a reply to that specific item, rather than a new, top-level comment?

Please forgive me for asking what may seem a stupid or prying question.

[turcopolier]

Harbaugh

I think you a literalist dullard or a crypto neocon and will not respond. pl

[Tyler]

The South has been on fire for the past few weeks and its barely puncturing the MSM as they report breathlessly on the latest batch of psychological problems and faux "hate crimes" that they reason can be laid at the feet of Trump.

"Fake news" indeed.

[Richard]

Maybe Romney should be considered for Secretary of Defense. The Pentagon is an organization that needs fixing.

[Cee]

A solider who was told he would never walk again did walk from Oklahoma and arrived yesterdsy.

Another account foom someone heading to Standing Rock.

https://medium.com/reports-from-standing-rock/they-are-trying-to-kill-us-first-hand-report-of-victory-lonnquist-from-standing-rock-during-first-1d15551d4141#.wj78x921x

[Cee]

Adding this

http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/standing-rock-veteran-chris-turley-walk-oklahoma-north-dakota-access-pipeline-pawhuska-oklahoma/

[turcopolier]

Richard

Reform DoD? what do you want to reform? The Unified Command Plan? The assignment of missions and functions to the services? End strengths? What? Be specific. pl

[Richard]

I worked for circa 30 years as an engineer for defense contractors. And my view from inside the system is that the military procurement system is an absolute mess. A private contractor who did things the way the Pentagon does them would have been out of business decades ago.

[turcopolier]

Richard

For most of the USG money is free. All you have to do is ask Congress for it. When I left that and went into business I learned that money is not free at all if you have to earn it. pl

[Richard]

It's more than just money. Wait until the first EMP attack and see how much stuff no longer works.

[Martin Oline]

All:

I am posting a link for those who are interested to Sen. Jim Webb's address at The American Conservative’s “Foreign Policy in America’s Interest” conference on November 15, 2016 as printed at the Federalist Website. It is probably a transcript as it reads rather funny like a translation from another language, but I found it a hopeful respite from the current spate of politically-based ill feeling that is currently drowning everyone in the MSM.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/01/jim-webb-addresses-americas-elites-donald-trump-foreign-policy-keynote/

[Fred]

Tyler,

USA Today headline "A Crash Course in Racial Disparities"

What conduct causes police to engage in high speed pursuit of suspected criminals chase black people so much. Of course the first cases cited were innocent people killed by criminal suspects in Flint fleeing the police and striking innocent peoples' cars. (I wonder how on Earth that city got selected to be studied. Must be the 75+ years of continuous representation by Democrats) Que up the BLM outrage.