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09 November 2016

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The Twisted Genius

In time, I think we will learn more about the Russian hackers connection with the Wikileaks releases. An article in The Guardian quotes Sergei Markov, a pro-Kremlin political analyst, as saying, "maybe we helped a bit with WikiLeaks.” At the same time, he denied Russian interference in the election. As kao_hsien_chih, Dubhaltach and I have already pointed out, this mere shining the light on the truth is nothing compared to the heavy-handed interference in the affairs of other governments perpetrated by the U.S. government.

Babak Makkinejad

The voters rejected a deal like that in Colorado this past Tuesday.

Sam Q

Btw,
Stephen Cohen for SecState and Tyler for SecDef!

William Fitzgerald

Pat Lang,

I heard the name John Bolton in the speculation about appointments, which doesn't seem like a good sign. Unless the speculation is coming from the neo-con, imperialist faction.

WPFIII

turcopolier

Lavocat

"I do not always agree with the posts" Ho Hum. pl

Marcus

Do you all think there may be a conflict between Putin and Trump concerning continued military support of Iran by Russia?

Will

Balfour declaration, matey?

The Twisted Genius

William Fitzgerald,

Nothing that's current. Israel has a strong cyber espionage and cyber operations capability aided by a robust cyber security and surveillance industry. Their freelance hackers are really no better than many others. There is no equivalent to what exists in the Russian (and FSU) and Chinese hacker scene.

kao_hsien_chih

Global elites were also devastated by World War I. It shook up colonial empires. It disrupted trade and financial linkages across borders. It destroyed old cosmopolitan social and cultural connections. Like JM Keynes said, it destroyed the idea of "Europe" as a great transnational enterprise. Maybe Lenin and Hitler gained from World War I, in addition to the Serbs, but none of the existing elites.

Babak Makkinejad

Who would this "Global Elite" be?

Care to elaborate?

An enumeration of their origins would suffice.

Kenny

Many of the elites across Europe were zionists. And the country they eventually created, at the cost of the ongoing genocide of the Palestinians, was Israel. Yes, Israel benefited immensely from WWI and WWII, and the Jewish elites who created it as well.

kao_hsien_chih

That, I will disagree.

I think a few things will take place with certainty.

First, I don't see there not being a massive domestic infrastructure program. There will be construction aplenty, possibly the biggest since the interstate highways since 1950s, and God knows we need a lot of it too. Thi could mean that a lot of environmental regulations that stand in the way might be put aside and we may regret it decades later, but, at least in the short to medium term they may be hindrance rather than good.

Second, maybe there will be more defense spending, or not. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing if it generates jobs and boosts spending on education and training, especially if other countries help pay for it. If we do reduce our footprint abroad, maybe other countries will actually spend money on their own defense and buy our stuff for change. I'm not against that one bit.

Third, tax cuts, by themselves aren't a bad thing. Obsession with balanced budget is the bad diseases that Democrats contracted from the old timey Republicans. Even if long term deficits are a bad thing, cutting taxes and increasing spending in the short term is the best way to boost the economy. It's crazy talk to insist on raising taxes while increasing spending. You might as well cut taxes and cut spending.

Fourth, if someone tries to meaningfully cut "Obamacare," there will be howls of people who will shout "get government out of my Obamacare," especially out of the working class. Trump is not as tone deaf as the liberal caricature makes him. He will talk a good game. He might engage in some PR gimmicry, but he will not really touch Obamacare. The trouble with Obamacare is not that it is bad, but that it is badly set up for the long run. Someone will have to fix it sooner or later, and to the degree that someone can get both Republicans and Democrats to work productively, Trump would be that man. For political reasons, no Democrat will be able to pull it off in a generation and very few Republicans would. Trump, not being a real Republican, can.

I still don't "trust" Trump. But he has given himself the chance to be a great man, of FDR proportions, if he can show himself up to the challenge. I think we are best off giving the man the goodwill he deserves and hope that he will be up to the challenge, not wallow around in the old embitterment.

rkka

"Do they threaten our security interests by existing? Is that it? does their possession of land and armed force automatically make us see them as "enemies?"

I recall neocon a Frank Gaffney saying back in late the 1970s that "Until the Soviet Union is reduced to the Grand Duchy of Muscovy it will remain a threat to the United States." So yeah, the Neocons hate Russia for existing.

kao_hsien_chih

The cultural elites with families in multiple countries, the aristocracy (especially those who were shot, dispossessed, or expelled), the international businesses that depended on easy movement of goods, services, and capital across borders. These were replaced by nationalists, "domestic" producers, including those of arms, but their economic gains did not make up for the loss.) JM Keynes in the Economic Consequences of Peace did an excellent enumeration of what WW1 destroyed.

different clue

Edward Amame,

I see the same risks from a President Trump that you see. I saw them when I did my voting. But I thought then and think now that those risks are worth running to achieve what we have achieved.

We stopped the Clintons before they could kill again. We stopped the Clintons from bringing their River of Sewage back to the White House for a second engagement. We have lowered the chance and severity of recreational wars of Clinton aggression. We have lowered the chance of a Clintonite Borgist thermonuclear exchange with Russia.

Babak Makkinejad

In which specific country?

In Europe Jews were decimated during WWII; save on the Iberian Peninsula and in USSR.

Some elite, not even enduring 20 years.

Babak Makkinejad

Are we back to that canard again.

Why not admit that everyone was a loser in WWI in Europe.

Even Italy, who got Tyrol and still is unwilling to free it, suffered.

There were no winners, in my opinion.

Jov

Serbia ''gained'' during WW1 between 1.100.000,00-1.300.000,00 dead, of which about 60% of the male population. The country was devastated.
When talking about the methods in destroying people and land (housing, infrastructure, even culture) during WWI by the Austro-Hungarian Empire together with the Germans and Bulgarians, it is interesting to note the use of biological warfare when the Austro-Hungarian army during a retreat deliberately left in the town of Valjevo about 3000 wounded soldiers which were infected with typhus (Typhus exanthematicus), causing the later epidemic of typhus in Serbia which alone took about 150.000,00 lives. The systematic killing of civilians, documented inter alia by the Swiss criminologist Rudolphe Archibald Reiss, mostly perpetuated by Croats in the K&K army, was also on a grand and organized scale. Only later to be repeated in the catastrophe during WWII in a genocide against the Serbs (from newborn child to old men and women as victims) committed by the Croats, with the active support of most of the Catholic church.

notlurking

Some readers have asked about what is the thinking of General Flynn.....In this article about Turkey he is right about Gulen.....but when he goes into the Iranian rant well he lost me.... he must surely know that the US engineered the 1953 coup.....some folks in Iran did not forget that though.... sounding like a neocon to me......be careful Mr Trump.....

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/foreign-policy/305021-our-ally-turkey-is-in-crisis-and-needs-our-support

LondonBob

Good luck launching a coup when the President is beloved by the Secret Service, the Police, when the Armed Forces overwhelmingly voted for him and he has well armed populace behind him. Neocons, once again generals without an army.

Earthrise

Not sure why you are fighting for this point Babak. While you are correct there were no (European) winners of WWI, you could argue the rest of the world won as they started their long path to liberation from Western Imperialism.

"Who would this "Global Elite" be?

Care to elaborate?"

Rothschild, Du Pont, Morgan, Rockefeller, Goldman-Sachs, Medici...

aleksandar

Commited by the croats, yes, but do not forget Albanians and muslims in bosnia.
The horrific Hanshar SS division ( bosniak ) and SS Skanderbeg ( albanaise )

johnf

Perhaps with Hillary no longer looking over his shoulders and a 90 minute meeting with Trump Obama seems at last to be releasing his inner "realist":

"Obama directs Pentagon to target al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria, one of the most formidable forces fighting Assad

President Obama has ordered the Pentagon to find and kill the leaders of an al-Qaeda-linked group in Syria that the administration had largely ignored until now and that has been at the vanguard of the fight against the Syrian government, U.S. officials said.

The decision to deploy more drones and intelligence assets against the militant group formerly known as Jabhat al-Nusra reflects Obama’s concern that it is turning parts of Syria into a new base of operations for al-Qaeda on Europe’s southern doorstep, the officials said.

The move underlines the extent to which Obama has come to prioritize the counter­terrorism mission in Syria over efforts to pressure President Bashar al-Assad to step aside, as al-Nusra is among the most effective forces­­ battling the Syrian government.

That shift is likely to accelerate once President-elect Donald Trump takes office. Trump has said he will be even more aggressive in going after militants than Obama, a stance that could lead to the expansion of the campaign against al-Nusra, possibly in direct cooperation with Moscow."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-directs-pentagon-to-target-al-qaeda-affiliate-in-syria-one-of-the-most-formidable-forces-fighting-assad/2016/11/10/cf69839a-a51b-11e6-8042-f4d111c862d1_story.html

Chris Chuba

Occasionally I ask people, 'How is Russia's annexation of Crimea a huge threat to us while Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights is a non-event?'. I have never gotten a convincing reply. Our overreaction to Crimea rejoining the Russian Federation is in and of itself evidence that we were on this road long before then.

1. We have installed two armored brigades in Baltics using the technicality of rotation to bypass treaty obligations, we have stockpiled massive quantities of ammunition, and have prepared bases for a rapid reaction force of 40,000 troops and recently I read that NATO wants to scale this to 300,000. Was this in response to a Russian buildup? No, it was because of Russian aggression with Crimea.

2. We have dropped our pretense the missile defense systems in Romania and the one being built in Poland is to defend against Iran. Now it's for a revanchist Russia because of Crimea. It's funny, people still think we abandoned the Polish installation.

3. We are recruiting new NATO members Montenegro, Sweden, Finland, and made Ukraine and Georgia something called associate members.

It's just astounding how aggressive we have been but have managed to turn the Russian response into aggression.

Babak Makkinejad

So back to the bankers - in you example, mostly domiciled in USA.

Bankers in Europe always made money on wars; for centuries.

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