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09 November 2016

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kao_hsien_chih

TTG,

Personally, I'm a bit astonished that people have the gall to accuse Russians of interfering in the electoral process. Many US campaign consultants work for foreign political actors, often with the blessing of US government and/or major US political actors. We sent a bunch of them to help keep Yeltsin in office, for example. Even if Russians did what they did to overtly influence elections, that seems no worse than what we did to them in late 1990s to me.

shaun

My 9 year old son Quan is adopted from Vietnam, he thinks he is going to be deported. What should I tell him? He will be a democrat eventually.

turcopolier

Shaun

If you think that is true I don't know who is the bigger a--hole, him or you? pl

shaun

Imagine me, with all my relatives acting like life is over. I said to them well it would be over when Hillary nuked Russia, so now we have a chance to...not die. They aren't buying it but as someone who was a Democrat and may be one again, I find a chance to not blame Russia rather enlightening...duh. Its like Jerry Garcia died all over again! And he would love this, as he was someone who reads, unlike these democrats. Time to hit the road there's 52 states to play in. PS they loved Roanoke when they existed, and Hampton especially, don't know why.

Sam Q

Engel also said these generals would be worried if Trump orders them to round of millions of people and put them in train cars. It is always 1939. If you read the twitter feeds of Julia Ioffe, Jonah Goldberg, Max Boot, Kurt Eichenwald, Peter Beinart, et al., you get the impression that they despise whites and Christians and white Christian civilization. IMHO, their neurotic obsession with Russia and desire to start WWIII is born out of this same motivation.

FourthAndLong

They threaten to prevent us from supporting corrupt politicians in Ukraine. And if that wasn't evil enough, from supporting AlQueda Jihadis is in East Aleppo. How is that fair, I ask you??

Babak Makkinejad

I cannot think of any European country the elite of which gained anything from World War I except, very peripherally, Serbia.

It was a loss across all social strata.

Babak Makkinejad

In case of Iran, his policy of waging economic war with EU states, had reached a cul-de-sac. He accepted a deal that had been on the table since 2006.

His policy of containing Iran by destroying SAR harmed US allies as well as protectorates.

He is a good orator but the cost of his unsuccessful policies are enormous - in my opinion.

In regards to Obamacare, very roughly, a single payer system would require people to pay 10% of their income for health-care. Just to be able to cover the indigent, the incompetent, the poor, the derelicts, the criminals, the unemployed, the drug users, the obese, the smokers, as well as all manner of non-working adults.

FND

Your child will automatically become a citizen. So tell him that. http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/how-foreign-born-adopted-children-get-citizenship.html

And I'm sure you know only illegal immigrants stand the risk of being deported. I suspect you already know these things, but may want to play the disingenuous obfuscation game that the media and Dems have been playing about what Trump has said or didn't say.

gonefishing

Great post Earthrise, but America did not enter WWI in 1914, it entered it on 6 April 1917. It suffered 110,000 deaths of which 43,000 were from influenza. The US population at the time was over 100M. So it lost around 0.1%. The UK population was 43M and it lost over 800,000 or around 2%. Russia lost between 1% and 2%, perhaps more, depending on how you count. Germany had similar percentages. The last conflict in which US deaths were in that range was the Civil War, and prior to that the Revolutionary War. Nowadays, we have professional armies, and missiles, and air forces, so that the vast majority of us in the countries taking the offensive suffer little, if at all, when our governments, in our name, inflict untold horrors on other countries.

Unfortunately, we do forget, all too easily. Demonization continues apace. And, mostly, we don't even know what we gain if we win, or even what winning looks like.

ToivoS

You did not mishear or mischaracterize what Engel was saying. I heard the same thing you did. And I had the same reaction: military officers can disobey orders that are illegal. It was shear nonsense that any officer has to go back and study the constitution to know whether they should follow an order from the president that directs the US military to take action against sovereign US citizens who are opposing US policy. Now if martial law has been declared then it might be more difficult to refuse such orders. That has not happened since the Civil War.

ISL

Babak,

sounds like a bargain - currently the US spends 17% of GDP on health care.

https://www.cms.gov/research-statistics-data-and-systems/statistics-trends-and-reports/nationalhealthexpenddata/nationalhealthaccountshistorical.html

Most european countries are 8-9% of GDP So, 7% is mostly profits for the health insurance companies that donate massively to Obama, and whose main product is making the lives of most people miserable.

Earthrise

Not the national elites Babak, but the new global elites (at the turn of the 20th Century, the Oiligarchs, Banking clans, the British imperial class; International Capital). It is these global elites that were the target of yesterday's electoral revolution in the US. The national elite you correctly point out lost in WWI might be about to make a comeback.

Dubhaltach

In reply to The Twisted Genius 09 November 2016 at 06:41 PM

"Let's say the Russian government did guide or sanction the theft and release of these emails by Russian hackers. I don't feel it's that egregious an act. It was more like whistleblowing or exposing the truth. Yes it was damaging to the Clinton campaign, but it certainly wasn't tampering with our election in my opinion."

Even if they did the old proverb about what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander springs to mind.

Hsve you ever met any of the young "activists" that the International Republican Institute or the National Democratic Institute sent to Russia? Because I have, arrogant, pompous, self-righteous little pr*cks, who believe because they're American that they have the God-given right to effect regime change wherever they feel like it. To unleash "creative destruction" because that's the best and everyone wants to be an American in their heart of hearts. Or to put it another way I never met one who wasn't a Victoria Nuland in training. If Americans don't like even the idea of being on the receiving end of it then they shouldn't dish it out.

(Yes I know you know that - the problem is that they either don't know it or more likely that they do know it but they don't care because they don't believe that the concept of consequences applies to them).

Green Zone Café

I hope the Colonel gets in touch with Michael Flynn and they have a long lunch or dinner.

Flynn is likely to be prominent in the new administration. He is friendly with Michael Ledeen, the possible author of the Niger uranium forgeries and a bomb-Iran agitator.

There will be a contest over who runs the Trump foreign and military policy, the realists may lose.

Earthrise

gonefishing,

This next point is a tough one to say. It was the Prussian military class which ruled Germany, not the Hohenzollern royal family. Prussia was famously called an Army with it's own State. As the German military told itself it was undefeated in the field (which was only a few weeks away at best), they still had the moxie to go it again a generation later. Only when their cities were smashed, their manhood destroyed and their womenhood raped did they finally bury that Prussian helmet.

Your point about the lack of American casualties in both wars is a good one. You can tell by my words above how strong the shock of WWI was to my country, and how deep and painful the wounds still are. These scars are what should give us pause next time we are called to die for the ruling class; just ask a German. But the Americans have suffered relatively little, and their martial streak is Prussian-esque. This is what has filled me with such happiness today, that the American people did not have to be beaten into submission to learn this valuable lesson. Because unfortunately, you would have taken us all with you.

Bill H

Yes, I was rather astonished by Engel as well. His rant about "it was Russia" which resulted in the Trump win finally prompted Tom Brokaw to step in and take him down a peg, pointing out rather forcefully that Trump was elected by American voters, not Russian hackers. Made me momentarily like Tom Brokaw. Momentarily.

Tom

I think that is a very important point. This whole liberal technogenic philosophy is being propagated around the world with a messianic zeal that the world hasn´t seen since agents of the Comintern swarmed out in the Twenties. With the same kind of irresposibilty these smart boys and girls from the best schools of the West have contributed to toppling governments all over the former Soviet sphere. These are´nt my words these are words of Vladimir Pastukhov who is a certified enemy of Putin living in exile in London.
These people really do believe in the holy grail of LBGT and the infinite malleability of mankind. They really think that life is like on facebook or whatsapp where there are infinite genders and you can be a man one and a woman the next day. That is why nothing in the world will convince them that having men and women in the same infantry detachment will result in disaster. Remember these are the ultimate snowflakes who have never been in an actual fight.
They live in a bubble very much of their own. It certainly helps that it is a very comfortable bubble that is being financed by various endowments, the CIA a.s.o. Ultimately though by the deplorables who also go out and fight and die for them.
Russia is their bugbear and Putin a constant reminder of the fact that they might have been able to subdue the upper middle classes of the Western part of the "White" world but not the Eastern part. Now they have suddenly realized that they don´t even own the US and that they are as hated here as they are hated in any other part of the world. Good for them and good for us. Deplorables of the world unite!

Lavocat

I love your site. Though I do not always agree with the posts, they always make me think. Thank you for that.

Let me just state that, as a disaffected and long-disgusted Democrat (I am now a proud independent), I feel like Dickens' Ebenezer Scrooge awakening from his final nightmare: "I'm as merry as a school boy!" on Christmas morning.

Seriously, I feel - as an adult - the way I remember feeling as a child at Christmas. God bless us, every one - for making the right choice of president.

Signed: A Proud Deplorable

LeaNder

probably from most people: I think Trump is basically Barak Obama in a different set of clothes, politically speaking.

Well, obvious. I am sure I left similar comments. He remodeled Obama or his campaign's ideas to fit his own established self-image, down to a final theme surfacing in his acceptance speech. Picking up on the meme Hillary graciously offered after a slightly too long hesitation: we (the people).

And I can only say that while the campaign is over, our work on this movement is now really just beginning.

Different themes, different core target group, never mind overlapping quarters, opposing Obama not GWB. Remember Obama created ISIS, keeps his flanks/wings open to the GOP. ...

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I would like to avoid gimmicry and narcissism. Besides the quote below would somewhat contradict the usual items/features surfacing in a test for the narcissist.

his self-image as the grand compromiser who could somehow make everyone happy led to the less than ideal Obamacare and got drawn into the dangerous mess in Libya for example.

This I can sign easily. But on Libya I fear even Pat and TTG could have been pulled into that direction. Maybe not with deeper information on the context?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

LeaNder

It's interesting you allude to the 2006 suggestion. I am vaguely aware of events ... ElBaradai - Ahmadinejad. ... Israel's fears, Israel's protection of its superiority in the region.

Just to be able to cover the indigent, the incompetent, the poor, the derelicts, the criminals, the unemployed, the drug users, the obese, the smokers, as well as all manner of non-working adults.

Well yes, so much human debris out there, how to get rid of them/us one way or another? How does Iran deal with the different categories? Versus Saudi Arabia?

Degringolade

Basically, I think that a one of the tenets forming the basis of a rational and effective foreign policy should be:

Please be civil to the the man/government controlling 1,790 active strategic nuclear warheads

Edward Amame

Pacifica Advocate

Exactly. Per Grover Norquist back in 2012 or so:

"All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.

Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared."

President Trump's first action in office will be to put pen to Paul Ryan's budget. There will be a big upper-end tax cut and a big increase in defense spending. The low-income safety net will be decimated. Obamacare may be decimated. Planned Parenthood will probably be defunded. Regulators may be hobbled or even disabled. America will be great again.

Will

Always admired George Mitchell. Even more so now that i've read his autobiography. Raised by an orphaned Irish origin father who had been adopted by a Lebanese American family and a Lebanese (then Syrian) mother who spoke broken English and worked the night shift at a mill in Maine. He stood in humility at his lack of athletic prowess compared to his brothers. Served in the US Army in counter-intelligence in Berlin. Retired as Senate Majority Leader at the top of his game. Turned down a Supreme Court appointment to try to get Hillary Care passed at a time when compromise appeared possible. Helped achieve peace in Northern Ireland, but failed miserably despite doing his utmost in Palestine.

"First, I believe there is no such thing as a conflict that can't be ended. Conflicts are created and sustained by human beings. They can be ended by human beings. No matter how ancient the conflict, no matter how much harm has been done, peace can prevail."

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/Leaders_Lecture_Series_Mitchell.htm

https://www.amazon.com/Negotiator-Memoir-George-J-Mitchell/dp/1451691378/

William Fitzgerald

TTG,

Do you have any information on Israeli hacking/hacking groups?

WPFIII

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