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30 November 2016

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Pundita

Bravo, Colonel! Bravo! I've been driven nearly clean out of my mind during the past 24 hours of following Syria war news. Never in my lifetime have I witnessed so many deranged governments, ngos, reporters converge on one little country.

Aka

sir,
something tells me that reading this "map" isn't a truth that they want to understand.

You know there is a saying that you can not wake someone who is pretending to be asleep.

turcopolier

Aka

It was an ironic statement on my part but I do think that a lot of these jerks can't read a map. pl

The Beaver

Colonel,

As far as AFP is concerned, Aleppo is the opposition bastion near Damascus :-)

ISL

Dear Colonel,

One wonders why Kerry is wasting his remaining weeks trying to convince the Russians to withdraw in the face of victory, rather than trying to accomplish something say in Latin America that he could cash in on after January. Not sure if it is possible to explain a map to him, either. Perhaps he could become a commentator on MSNBC?

turcopolier

All

Looks like the Idlib jihadis are going to have another go at breaking the siege from the Idlib side. Good!! pl

The Beaver

Bibi being the opportunist bombed the outskirts of Damascus this morning:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38155933

Nuff Sed

Mapreading skills? Surely you jest. Willful obdurate outrageous persistent evil. That is what the Borg has become. Good luck trying to cut off the head of that hydra and freeing your polity from its clutches. God knows you're gonna need it.

Nuff Sed.

Dmcna

Persisting with the false narrative even when they know that it is widely known that is false is pretty amazing. I cannot quite work out why it is being done. I can see no prospect of jihadis prevailing in this. More and more people from east Aleppo are going to be telling it how it was. If I had been weeping for Bana and the White Helmets and sending them good wishes and presents I would be really quite angry to find out that I had been totally manipulated by the UK government and BBC. This emotion would be strengthened when I found out that this had been done for no respectable reason and realised there was no UK national interest at stake.

Antoine

The media and the US government would consider this post part of the False News movement.

fjdixon

As to journalists and is it ignorance or ...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/30/the-cia-and-the-press-when-the-washington-post-ran-the-cias-propaganda-network/

Matthew

Going, going, gone...

See https://twitter.com/A7_Mirza/status/803999817328394241

b

Some 500 local "rebels" went to the government side. 480 were allowed to go home after they promised to no longer fight.

In total some 15,000 people came out of half of east-Aleppo freed by the SAA. Not seen: the 270,000 the UN claimed to be there.

A new attack from outside is planned, allegedly on 7 axis! which would be the most stupid thing to do. They will be easy targets.

There are new pictures by the White Helmets of "dead people" with baggage in the street "fleeing people killed by Assad artillery" - pretty sure the pics are staged, the bags undamaged and the "dead" ready to get up again. Another fake.

Frank

I'm curious to find out how many actual civilians are still in east Aleppo. After liberating about half of the pocket it seems only around 15,000 civilians have escaped. It's clear at this point that the actual number will turn out to be only a small fraction of the 150,000 - 200,000 number that was previously discussed.

In my opinion this was another coordinated lie by the vultures circling around Syria. The same lie was pushed regarding the Darriya pocket (and others) in Damascus that was finished off a while back, when it was revealed that the number of civilians was only a tiny fraction of what was claimed.

I see a pattern here. Are they doing this to ship in extra supplies for the terrorists?

turcopolier

Nuff Said

What I am saying is that the Borgists are militarily incompetent. pl

turcopolier

Antoine

FWIW I am indifferent to what the US Government, its external Borgist friends or anyone else may think of SST. pl

DavidKNZ

Colonel,
A good focus on the unfolding 'reality on the ground' at Allepo. But equally relevant is the increasingly bizarre behaviour of the Borg when faced with impending defeat.
Currently, large amounts on money and psuedo technology are being thrown at the proposition that its all due to Russia propaganda.

There is a list: http://www.propornot.com/p/the-list.html.
but SST has not (yet) been accorded a place on it. ;-)
And this list does provide a starting point for POVs differing from the increasing non-sensical establishment media.

Yes. RT et al does do 'propaganda' on occasion,
but increasingly it is simply truthful.
Just like SST :-)

DavidKNZ

Colonel,
A good focus on the unfolding 'reality on the ground' at Allepo. But equally relevant is the increasingly bizarre behaviour of the Borg when faced with impending defeat.
Currently, large amounts on money and psuedo technology are being thrown at the proposition that its all due to Russia propaganda.

There is a list: http://www.propornot.com/p/the-list.html.
but SST has not (yet) been accorded a place on it. ;-)
And this list does provide a starting point for POVs differing from the increasing non-sensical establishment media.

Yes. RT et al does do 'propaganda' on occasion,
but increasingly it is simply truthful
Just like SST :-)

Ghostship

The "white Helmet" pictures were probably produced to provide propaganda to western MSM counteract reports of rebels shooting at fleeing civilians such as this:
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-civilians-hit-rebel-gunfire-fleeing-eastern-aleppo/
They needn't have bothered since I've seen no reports of this in the MSM.

turcopolier

DavidKNZ

I am increasingly bored with people who show up here and spout off without any knowledge of what has gone on here for 11 years. pl

Keith Harbaugh

Does anyone know who is behind this website:
http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html
Or has this topic already been discussed at SST? If so, where, please?
Thank you.

Laguerre

Couldn't agree more with the colonel. It looks like being over shortly. B's suggestion in his own blog of MoA that the jihadis could hold out in the old city doesn't sound convincing for the moment. Things are are moving too fast, according to the latest map from Masdar. Lots of civilians evacuating, and 600 jihadis surrendering. It's a movement. That kind of movement is hard to stop, though it can happen.

walter

video of Syrian Army soldier reuniting with family

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-soldier-breaks-tears-upon-reunification-family-aleppo/

Brunswick

http://whois.domaintools.com/propornot.com

The site is registered to an "anonamizer" Company, often involved in scams,

http://800notes.com/forum/ta-63eff336cf62903/these-are-the-people-selling-your-info-to-the-fake-debt-scammers

As Emptywheel notes, the same questionable formulae and metrics the Propornot uses, outs the WaPo as a CIA Propaganda front controlled by Langley.

http://800notes.com/forum/ta-63eff336cf62903/these-are-the-people-selling-your-info-to-the-fake-debt-scammers

Ghostship

The Angry Arab reports that a western correspondent in the Middle East told him that there were about 50,000 Syrian fighters of all types in Aleppo and maybe a few thousand non-Syrians alongside them, although it's not clear if that includes the SAA forces defending Aleppo to the west. Most reports suggest there are about 7,000 to 8,000 jihadists (who have now united under a single banner BTW). That's a three to one, possibly seven to one advantage for the SAA. The rebels are going to be repeatedly hammered with the SAA hopefully being able to rotate units in and out of combat.
http://angryarab.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/new-york-times-on-bashshar-al-asad.html
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/besieged-aleppo-rebels-unite-new-jaish-halab-banner/
It's not just the mainstream media that is spreading fake news, there are NGOs out there dong it as well.
http://angryarab.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/human-rights-watch-purposefully.html
And the UN seems to be supporting the use by the rebels of human shields:
"Stephen O’Brien told an emergency session of the UN security council that since Saturday 25,000 people had been forced from their homes in eastern Aleppo, more than half of them children, as the government offensive stormed into opposition districts."
Fortunately Ms Powers seems to have been absent so it was left to the British and French representatives to fulfil her usual role of havng a hissy fit, but the Russian position was made clear.
"Churkin said Russia shared concern for the fate of the civilian population but argued their plight would not be eased by ceasing “counter-terrorist operations” against “bandits” that the UK and France had “coddled and fuelled”. He called the White Helmet civil defence organisation, which digs people out of bombed buildings, a “pseudo-humanitarian” group, and said UN resolutions calling for an end to the bloodshed were “a pointless tactic”."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/30/syria-aleppo-death-toll-united-nations-statistics

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