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The Twisted Genius

IZ and others,

The Bundys and the other defendants were acquitted on the basis of intent. The government failed to convince the jury that the Bundys intended to intimidate government workers. One of the Bundys was apparently quite eloquent and convincing in explaining his true intent to the jury. I wish the centrality of intent was uniformly applied in our system of justice.

I think intent, in addition to being clever and slick, is at the core of the failure to indict Clinton on any crime surrounding her emails. The DOJ took Clinton's lack of obvious intent to violate the laws of national secrecy or obstruction of justice as a way to avoid indictment.

Intent in our system of justice is a two edged sword, but I's still like to see this centrality of intent universally applied to our courts.

Fred

Steve,

While funny, no. They have the gold mine that is the Clinton Global Initiative.
Just one bits of truth from the sewer that we only know due to wikileaks (and Putin!).
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-10-27/bill-clinton-inc-memo-reveals-blurred-lines-between-charitable-personal-fundraising

""Throughout the past 11 years since President Clinton left office, I have sought to leverage my activities, including my partner role at Teneo, to support and raise funds … to support the Clinton Foundation and President Clinton personally."...."

The only ones to get the shaft are American citizens. To paraphrase Obama "We're all Deplorables now".

Fred

Laura,

I wonder just what was in the ten hours of sworn testimony Bundy gave that might have persuaded 12 citizens of the United States resident in Oregon to decide he was not guilty of the charges brought by the prosecutor.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ammon-bundy-long-testimony-swayed-ore-jury-acquit-article-1.2848300

Fred

Optimax,

Not just Israel. Who were the recipients of the emails Huma sent? If she couldn't figure out how to create even a rudimentary filing system in outlook I suspect they are all hiding in plain sight in the "sent" file.

different clue

Old Microbiologist,

Oh, who will pardon Obama? Clinton will if she is the President.

different clue

Old Microbiologist,

If she is elected, the OverClass will do everything it can to see that she is not impeached, and definitely not removed from office even if impeached despite the best effort of all the Davos, Bohemian Grove, Bilderberg, etc. embeds working together.

She is their designated Obama 2.0. She is their ticket to privatizing Social Security and Medicare, and the VA System too if they can get away with it. And passing all the Trade Treason Agreements currently being worked on.

VietnamVet

Colonel

Being a displaced Westerner, the nullification of any crimes committed by the Bundy family’s seizure of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge is tied up with forces that brought about Donald Trump’s nomination. Simply put the Far West is pockets of private land surrounded by a continent of federal land. Many westerners are depended on depleted land and water controlled by Washington DC. Peace was always tenuous. But, when the financial industry seized power in Washington DC, taxes were cut, regulation shrunk to benefit the connected wealthy. The little people were tossed aside. Their livelihoods gone. Anyone needing health care or an education is burden with unpayable debt. The cosmopolitan elite and ascendant minorities label them as racist left behinds.

One of the elite sextexted a North Carolina 15 year old girl while on the family’s bed with his kid on a “shared” laptop that contains thousands of Hillary Clinton’s emails that likely contain national security information. No one is jailed. This basic unfairness starts revolts; unless, drugs, casinos, privatized justice, flat screen TVs and early death keeps America pacified as it splinters apart.

optimax

Fred

I expect the Dems to play the Putin card. He stole Hillary's emails and put them on Huma's pewter. Damn Ruskies.

Hillary is braying that Trump's questioning the integrity of the elections is an unheard of attack on our democracy yet she has said Putin has the ability and desire to rig our elections through cyber warfare.

I wish Trump wasn't a Bozo. Well, I still can root for the Cleveland Indians--dat's my Tribe.

Babak Makkinejad

It is interesting that the usual discourser in US the words "citizen" and "tax-payer" are used interchangeably.

Is this not a manifestation of the "Economistic" view?

And it is always this funding activity of the citizen for the state is emphasized. As though they have no other significance.

There must be something to this usage that has endured for so long in US and so prominently at that as well...

Paul Escobar

To all,

Frank Luntz says a "big surprise" (anti-Trump) is coming next week.

An interesting campaign observation, FWIW.
It initially baffled the political class as to why Trump refused to adopt the Romney-like persona of a "serious businessman & statesman". If you've seen footage of him from the 90's & early 2000's, he has that game mastered.

Trump's motivation seems clear now. He knew the "scandals" were coming. So he refused to mount a "high horse", looking down on the public. You don't mount a high horse...how far do you actually fall? ABC/Washington Post poll says not much, as he's within 2 points of Clinton (that's after the sex stuff & BEFORE new FBI revelations).

Hillary Clinton though...
Expensive public relations firms, 100% media support, Wall Street financial backing, 1000+ person staff & ground game, Analytics teams, Polling firms, Social Justice Warrior army...

If it ever comes...given what Hillary Clinton represents...that would be some fall.

Best,
Paul

PeterHug

Not necessarily -
Anyone in the final stages of a race who thinks they are ahead (and that certainly is where Clinton has been for a while) wants people to vote early. In particular, people who are motivated enough to come out and waste their time at an event.

aleksandar

Maybe he has the right poll numbers...

PeterHug

That may in fact be a net plus for her - would you want anything to do with either of those weiners?

PeterHug

Thanks for that insightful comment -
So, Hillary is Brezhnev (or perhaps Yeltsin?), while Trump is clearly Berlusconi.

Hell of a choice...

PeterHug

I would be a bit surprised if they're the only ones involved. However, in general the FBI gets into an investigation like this if there are Federal criminal statutes that may have been violated, or if interstate communication or travel is involved.

(IANAL, your mileage may vary.)

The Beaver

@ Fred

We are learning more and more as the hours go by:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html

There is no indication from the eight-page FBI report on the interview, however, that the agents ever pressed her on what has now turned into an explosive issue in the final days of the 2016 campaign: Did Weiner have access to any classified government documents on his laptop and iPhone — devices that, he apparently used to exchange sexually charged messages with women he met online, including in one alleged case, an underage teenager in North Carolina?

The fact that FBI agents failed to follow up on this shows that the original probe into the Clinton email server was “not thorough” and was “fatally flawed,” said Joseph DiGenova, a former U.S. attorney and independent counsel who has been a strong critic of Comey and the FBI probe. “The first thing they should have done was gotten a sworn affidavit about all her accounts and devices,” he said, adding that agents should have immediately attempted to obtain the devices, including Weiner’s.

Lefty

Comey testified to Congress that the investigation was over and that he'd let them know if anything changed. Something changed, and with the number of people involved and amount of process there was no way to keep it secret. Notifying Congress and taking the heat just before the election was his least bad choice. Friday dumps are usually intended to minimize the impact so he likely wasn't looking for maximum visibility.

Weiner's wiener is too funny.

Eadwacer

To throw more fuel on the fire, here's a report that says the FBI doesn't know exactly what they've got, since they don't have a warrant to look at it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html

Kooshy

If you drive up the Costa Brava to France, don't miss the little French cost resort town of Collioure. Very pretty.

oofda

Comey is not a `dedicated Clintonite.` He is a registered Republican and a civil servant. He has done nothing to be considered that. Apparently they have not even gotten a warrant to read the emails in Weiner´s computer- how would he know that they would be ´pertinent´?

Edward Amame

jonst

I agree with you. Now the plot thickens. The chief White House ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007 is filing a complaint against the F.B.I. with the Office of Special Counsel, which investigates Hatch Act violations. The Hatch Act bars the use of an official position to influence an election.

Edward Amame

Old Microbiologist

He is not safe. Using the FBI to influence an election is a big no-no.

turcopolier

EA

You would have to prove intent to affect the election. Do you think that is possible? pl

Edward Amame

Old Microbiologist

Interesting. I'm sure that will help in the case against Comey for trying to tamper with an election.

Edward Amame

BillWade

Don't throw your money away like that.

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