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03 October 2016

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Matthew

If the White Helmets win a Nobel Prize this year, maybe someone should nominate the President of the Philippines next year.

The Nobel Committee is determined to disgrace themselves beyond redemption.


doug

My wife wanted to see "The White Helmets," a Netflix doc I think she heard about on NPR. So we watched it yesterday. Thinly disguised propaganda against the Syrian "regime." I love how the Syrian govt. is always referred to as a "regime." She's appalled by all the death and destruction but really has no idea about how it came about or what our role in facilitating the various actors is.

b

Max Blumenthal, who wrote that piece, is himself anti-Assad. He called people who wrote against the U.S. regime change operation "Assad apologists" and condemned them.
http://maxblumenthal.com/tag/bashar-assad/

My hunch is that someone is running a concentrated media campaign against the "Syria Campaign Ltd" and the "White Helmets" - a bit pro Syrian but still anti-Assad
See this in The National
http://www.thenational.ae/arts-life/newsmaker-the-white-helmets
and this in The Intercept
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/28/u-s-sanctions-are-punishing-ordinary-syrians-and-crippling-aid-work-u-n-report-reveals/
(like Blumenthal the author is anti-Assad)
and add the Blumenthal piece - all in last five days or so. This after years of silence in which only a few independent blogs took the White Helmets and the regime change efforts apart.

The White Helmets (or their money man behind it) put themselves up for the Nobel. They advertised for it on their own website. Shameless.
Receiving north of $70 million from U.S/UK/DE/NL/J governments they may well get. It has always been a political (NATO) price.

Russia just installed a S-300 variant in Tartus which is especially against cruise missiles. Not enough to withstand a full volley but a significant sign.

Will Obama launch the big war the Zionist demand from him?

Kooshy

May be our good noble, Noblers, should this time do it correctly, and give another one to Obama for ending his presidency. Hopefully that brings the world, more peace than since he began.

Chris Chuba

I cannot for the life of me fathom the thinking process of someone who does not realize that imposing a no fly zone over another country is intrinsically an act of war. The only thing that I can think of is that we are used to getting our way so much that many have become complacent to the point of becoming imbeciles.

The White Helmets get a good chunk of their funding from USAID which is managed by the U.S. State Dept.

Regarding complacency, the Russians claim that the S400 can target stealth aircraft. I do not think that it is a good idea to assume that this is propaganda on their part. In Serbia one of our F117's was hit by an anti-aircraft system built in the 1960's from a ground controller who had to periodically shut down his radar to avoid himself being targeted and destroyed. Yeah I know, the stealth bomber flew the same route everyday but it was targeted; it was not a random shot and Russian radar targeting has improved a real lot since then.

BabelFish

John McCain appears to have become the most dangerous person in America.

Liza

Col. Lang:

Will the Russian-Syrian operation in Aleppo end before the presidential election ?

Rich

Good piece by Max. He is Sid Blumenthal's son, and has written good books on Palestine. But what is his relationship to his Dad, who is a key Clint ally and some kind of intelligence informant.

Imagine

What kind of proof is there that the White Helmets are a ghoul squad? Is it solid or only circumstantial? Can someone put together a compilation web page or at least a blog page that people could refer back to?

turcopolier

b

Not sure what you are telling us. Is Max a good'un or a bad'un? As you all know I am a friend of his father and an acquaintance of Max. pl

Jack

Sir

I am troubled by the turn of events. We're facing increasing instability in geopolitics as well as in global finance. The status quo is doing everything possible to preserve their advantage. Those who have been shafted no longer believe in the establishment. We are seeing anti-establishment political forces gaining strength as the Les Déplorables look for alternatives. The choices are not necessarily forces of deep reform and stability. The US, France and Germany are heading into elections with deeply divided populations. No one has any legitimacy any more. While majority rules apply only narrow electoral victories are possible leading to sense of illegitimacy for those on the other side. No matter how the election turns out half the people will feel they were disenfranchised. Political changes could provide the catalyst that knocks the thin reed of confidence that holds together the shaky edifice of leverage that underpins global finance. These extraordinary theories that claim infinite government spending and backstops of financial leverage will face their tests when psychology changes. The idea that central banks can inflate financial assets at will while providing governments with unlimited fiscal flexibility that will generate real economic growth that increase the median households income and standard of living will be shown to be the snake oil that it is. How far will these central planners go "buying" real assets and securities with financial liabilities conjured from thin air? Is this era of Mass Delusion now reaching or at its apogee? Are Howe's notions of the Fourth Turning and it's tumultuous times coming upon us?

Imagine

https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_organizations/nobelfoundation/contact.html
if you have something solid, please send it to them.

Bill Herschel

I guess that the key question is what will Russia do when U.S. jets and cruise missiles attack Syrian troops, airfields, etc.?

Will Russia shoot down American jets attacking Syrian positions?

wisedupearly

lord how our tax money just flows out so freely
"From 2007 to 2011, the Pentagon paid Bell Pottinger (British PR firm) $540 million, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism confirmed. The reporters were also told that the P.R. company made an additional $120 million in 2006, putting the potential total at at least $660 million."
what did we buy?
"fake videos that appeared to be the work of al-Qaida, --. It also created news stories that looked as though they were produced by Arab media outlets, and distributed them through Middle Eastern news networks."
Would we be surprised to find that the White Hats were actually paid by another P.R. firm for "good" visuals?
Oh, BTW. Kerry is all excised about "civilians" in Aleppo but not at all concerned with those at risk in Mosul?

kao_hsien_chih

I think we'd find out what'd have happened if Wesley Clark got his wish to storm the Russian paratroopers at the Pristina airport, except Russia is far stronger and led competently. British general Jackson, who refused to obey the order back then, was convinced that that would have triggered World War 3, as far as I know.

turcopolier

imagine

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/pentagon-paid-pr-firm-540-million-make-fake-terrorist-videos/

pl

wisedupearly

from the bowels of Lord Tim Bell (ex-chairman of Bell Pottinger), what imagination.
"They would craft scripts for Arabic soap operas where characters would reject terrorism with happy consequences."

that must be worth at least 10 million an episode.

Brunswick

https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/open-letter-to-ndp-re-their-support-for-white-helmets-nobel-peace-prize

Bill Herschel

In answer to my own question, because believe me I am thinking about it, I would say that Russia can either shoot down American cruise missiles and jets or it can go to the Security Council or both.

Strategically, I don't see how it can stand aside while the U.S. destroys the Syrian military.

I guess the fig leaf would be that the anti aircraft missiles were fired by the Syrians.

How will the American public respond when American pilots are killed by Russian missiles/jets?

I do know that nominally very intelligent people I am acquainted with view Putin as a satanic monster. They have bought into the propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

Imagine

IMO is Lindsey Graham. He is driving if not heading push to overthrow Assad at all costs to America and Europe.

David E. Solomon

Colonel Lang,

If true, I am not surprised.

If not true, how unlike the corporate / financial / military / health care / media "industrial complex".

Only Iceland had the right idea. Jail the bastards.

Hopefully those how lean right in this election will vote for Gary Johnson and those who lean left will vote for Jill Stein.

One should not belittle our right to refuse to vote for the "least awful".


Regards,

David

Anna

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/10/03/do-we-really-want-nuclear-war-with-russia/
"...a powerful bureaucratic machinery is in place to advance U.S. propaganda goals. ... This machinery consists not just of outlets and activists funded by U.S. tax dollars via the National Endowment for Democracy or the U.S. Agency for International Development or NATO’s Strategic Communications Command, but like-minded “human rights” entities paid for by billionaire currency speculator George Soros or controlled by neoconservative ideologues who now run major U.S. newspapers...
There exists what intelligence veterans call a Mighty Wurlitzer, an organ with so many keys and pedals that it’s hard to know where all the sounds come from that make up the powerful harmony, all building to the same crescendo. But that crescendo may now be war with nuclear-armed Russia, which finds in all this demonizing the prelude to either a destabilization campaign aimed at “regime change” in Moscow or outright war."
Comment section: "The major charge at Nuremberg was “conspiracy”. That’s right, conspiracy to wage aggressive war."

Chris Chuba

That is the $64 question. I believe that there is greater likelihood that they would rather than not.
Syria is their strongest partner in the region where they have had a 'Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation' since the 1980's. While this is not a defense agreement it would be very notable if the Russians did absolutely nothing while the U.S. launched an unprovoked attack on Syria.

Russia takes very deliberate steps. Currently, they have only warned the U.S. that attacking Assad would create a vacuum and have detrimental affects and that they would protect their personnel. I would interpret this is stage 1 in their escalation ladder. Saber rattling is not their style.

I do not believe that the Russians would do anything rash, if they saw us preparing an attack then they would issue a warning if they planned to do anything about it. If we launched a surprise attack, taking down cruise missiles would not kill any U.S. personnel so I can see them doing that as well as targeting U.S. Jets with RADAR to show that they can. I think that they would hold back as long as possible before firing on U.S. jets.

Regarding Russian capabilities, don't forget to add in the S400 systems that they have on their various missile ships near Syria into the mix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_(missile)#Base_statistics
One stat that caught my eye is that it can guide and track 80 missiles at once, I can't find out its rate of fire but a few of these would definitely cut pretty severely into a cruise missile attack. I have no idea how the electronic warfare part would play out.

This is a lunatic scenario but I think we have a lot of lunatics in Washington today. I hope someone flushes out some of them. Anyone catch Breedlove on 60 minutes? I'll do a separate post on that sometime.

Dubhaltach

In reply to Matthew 03 October 2016 at 06:56 PM

They routinely disgrace themselves. It seems to go with the territory.

trinlae

Years of Living Dangerously did a great job of showing the environmental factors of multiple years of drought and crop failures in Syrian that were part of the toxic brew in the first episode (available for free viewing). The documentary was a labor of love by Harrison Ford and Matt Dillon.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLmB1tUgTXBEpRhv9QuUf9NAKnU6Jsi1g5&v=brvhCnYvxQQ

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