A lesson in internet operations? TTG

Just a guess, but that "communal" laptop was probably a lot more communal when it was first purchased and the email client set up. It eventually became Wiener's laptop, but the email client was never changed. It probably received every email sent to Abedin's email address from any and all senders including Clinton emails that she thought she deleted. They just sat in the in box unread while Abedin dealt with them on her other devices. She didn't have a clue this was happening.    TTG

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I have been wondering how this mass of e-mails belonging to Abedin could have been found on Weiner's laptop.  This would be an intriguing explanation.  pl

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[c]

Now, according to the WSJ, it appears that Federal agents are preparing to scour roughly 650,000 emails that, as we reported moments ago were discovered weeks ago on the laptop of Anthony Weiner, to see how many relate to a prior probe of Hillary Clinton’s email use, as metadata on the device suggests there may be thousands sent to or from the private server that the Democratic nominee used while she was secretary of state, according to people familiar with the matter.
More stunning is just how many emails were found on Weiner's computer. And while one can only imagine the content of some of the more persona ones, the WSJ writes that the latest development began in early October when New York-based FBI officials notified Andrew McCabe, the bureau’s second-in-command, that while investigating Mr. Weiner for possibly sending sexually charged messages to a minor, they had recovered a laptop with 650,000 emails. Many, they said, were from the accounts of Ms. Abedin, according to people familiar with the matter.

Those emails stretched back years, these people said, and were on a laptop that both Mr. Weiner and Ms. Abedin used and that hadn’t previously come up in the Clinton email probe. Ms. Abedin said in late August that the couple were separating.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-30/fbi-scour-through-650000-emails-found-weiners-laptop

[Bobo]

This problem Hillary has with E-Mails is like the Gift that keeps on Giving. On CNN last evening ex FBI agent Fuentes talked about the One-Stop shopping involving the Clintons as according to Fuentes there is an extensive investigation ongoing regarding the Clinton Foundation pay to play, the Weiner case regarding child molestation and now the re-opening of the Clinton email investigation.

[c]

WSJ by DEVLIN BARRETT google search: FBI in Internal Feud Over Hillary Clinton Probe
The latest development began in early October when New York-based FBI officials notified Andrew McCabe, the bureau’s second-in-command, that while investigating Mr. Weiner for possibly sending sexually charged messages to a minor, they had recovered a laptop with 650,000 emails. Many, they said, were from the accounts of Ms. Abedin, according to people familiar with the matter.

Those emails stretched back years, these people said, and were on a laptop that hadn’t previously come up in the Clinton email probe. Ms. Abedin said in late August that the couple were separating.

The FBI had searched the computer while looking for child pornography, people familiar with the matter said, but the warrant they used didn’t give them authority to search for matters related to Mrs. Clinton’s email arrangement at the State Department. Mr. Weiner has denied sending explicit or indecent messages to the teenager.

In their initial review of the laptop, the metadata showed many messages, apparently in the thousands, that were either sent to or from the private email server at Mrs. Clinton’s home that had been the focus of so much investigative effort for the FBI. Senior FBI officials decided to let the Weiner investigators proceed with a closer examination of the metadata on the computer, and report back to them.

[turcopolier]

visitor

Assuming that the FBI has legal authority to examine the Abedin trove, what matters is the content of the messages. pl

[Jack]

Is McCabe the same person whose wife received big bucks from Clinton pal and Virginia governor McAuliffe? Can he legitimately oversee this investigation in light of this money transfer? How about AG Lynch who has tarmac discussions with Slick Willie?

The whole thing stinks! The country needs a grand jury and special prosecutor to investigate.

[turcopolier]

Jack

"The country needs a grand jury and special prosecutor to investigate." Before the inauguration? pl

[Jack]

Who issues a search warrant in a case like this?

[Jack]

Yes, Sir. The grand jury should be empaneled immediately. And a special prosecutor appointed.

Better the country know that they may elect a president who could be subject to a criminal indictment while in office.

[kao_hsien_chih]

TTG,

Absolutely right that Comey is in a tough spot legally: he'd have been damned if he kept quiet and if he is being damned for having said something. But if I were in his shoes, I'd rather not keep quiet--at least there are actual emails, and who knows what'll turn up? He is under no obligation to do politicians favors by keeping things that could go bad under wraps.

Still, it seems unlikely that a whole lot of stuff will crop up. We already knew that HRC is a control freak who is surprisingly sloppy. It is unlikely that she'd have something especially damning, although probably a lot of questionable things--but nothing really new is likely to turn up. Nothing will really change--just more reminder that Clinton is not nearly as good even at wonking/administrating as she claims (but that too is hardly a secret.)

Still, if that is the route through which all these emails wound up on Weiner's laptop, it is yet another reminder how porous our information is, how easy it is that we'd let all our "guts" (information wise) out without even realizing it.

[charly]

If the hard disk wasn't encrypted than it is as easy as remove screws, remove hard disk from laptop, put it in a usb hard disk caddy and insert the usb cable into a computer to read the data. It is not FBI level but grandma level. Encrypting was done rarely in the past because it makes hard disk even slower

[turcopolier]

KHC

IMO she is very type A and disdainful of the rules. given the volume there may be some really interesting stuff. pl

[VietnamVet]

TTG

Publically, Anthony Weiner’s sex texting goes back to 2011. This is the third eruption. A lot is overlooked in an open marriage to keep a live-in househusband for the kid. Four devices were seized by federal authorities. His laptop contained sex texts and images to an underage girl. If the Clinton e-mails were found in a folder titled “Life Insurance”, I assume he downloaded them off of the wife’s work at home laptop during quiet time to his hot steamy one. No doubt he has told the Clinton family consigliore that he has given flash drives with all the dirt to his lawyers and/or relatives to be released if he commits suicide with two bullets in the back of the head.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/30/doj-blocked-fbi-from-huma-emails-but-other-law-enforcement-agencies-may-have-gotten-a-peek/

This incident highlights the differences between the lives and beliefs of the ruling elite and the rest of the slobs. The emotions stirred are tribal in intensity. Yet, corporate media continues broadcasting that everything is just great in this most exceptional world. Will we express shock when it collapses as fast as the Soviet Union?

[Babak Makkinejad]

There are multiple .pst files - one for each account - for each user, in case of MS Outlook.

Likewise for other email client software.

One can also archive one's emails in another .pst file and load them - those are never deleted or altered by the server since, they are, in effect, in a different location that the server does not know of.

[Fred]

Englsh Outsider,

"So how does it work if Mrs Clinton is elected?" That's the $64,000 question. I suspect the temptation/desire to purge the FBI of the "disloyal" would be irresistible - at least to Podesta, Humma and others who would serve on her staff. Look what damage Feith did under GWB. If they maintain control of either house in the legislative branch of government there are going to be investigations under oath. This scandal is not like ones of the past but involves a number of foreign governments by way of the Clinton Foundation.

[Chris Chuba]

Well done TTG. This is probably why Comey was excited about the discovery. It is a pristine copy of every email ever received from HRC's private server sent to Huma Abedin.

I can see this happening
1. She sets up a user account on his laptop (that's a little odd, at home we only bother doing this for desktop computers).

2. She sets up her email client to pop the email but leave the original on the server. This makes perfect sense because she knows that she will use multiple devices to read the email so she doesn't want to have this one delete the server email.

3. She forgets about this dinosaur of an arrangement because it is totally impractical and never uses it. Instead she uses her own mobile devices to actually access this email, all while this PC is happily saving a copy of all of her email from the HRC server every time Weiner ... never mind.

BTW I hate email clients. I only use webmail because I prefer the simplicity of having my email in one place, on a server that can be hacked instead of a desktop where my hard drive will randomly crash sometime in the future. I'm too lazy to configure backups and then figure out how to do a restore. I'll just re-image and start all over again.

I feel kind of bad for Huma, she married a bum, works for a clone of Nixon, and is getting in trouble for not being able to cover up her boss's tracks.

[Yancey Ward]

I think the most likely explanation is this- Weiner has been archiving his wife's e-mails since they have been married and she has been in Clinton's orbit.

Honestly, in his position and his wife's associations, wouldn't you make sure to collect some solid evidence insurance if they made it easy for you to do so?

[Sally]

Perhaps the mail client was removed when the laptop changed ownership, but they forgot about deleting the local backups. My local and remote mail databases are password protected and I am forced by the mail server to change the passwords often. It is hard to imagine that this mail could have been working on a forgotten device for long.

[David]

That vehicle should be the new Clinton Campaign bus.

[Herb]

This seems very reasonable. It brings up a question though, did her email credentials not change? That would drastically limit the backlog.

[turcopolier]

Herb

These people are technologically ignorant. Why would she change her credentials? pl

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