What could possibly be that metal thing that fell from her pants? Was that some battery from a medical device? Does she need electric pumps for fluid extraction or maybe continuous drug injection?
Anyway, sure such a deplorable thing as her health must be voting for Trump.
I am of a different time. My instinct was to question the loyalty of a husband who did not insist on being at her side. He must have known that she was in bad shape. She is now said to have pneumonia. Surely Bill C. (and her daughter) knew that. pl
A lot of people who are chronically ill die of pneumonia because they have a compromised immune system.
I don' think that Hillary fainted, or was suffering from the heat. The videos of her waiting for the van, show that she was able to hold her head upright. She apparently experienced some sort of loss of motor control in at least one of her legs.
Ah, pneumonia. Apparently, then, her fits of coughing have been due to a lung infection rather than simple allergies, as she asserted then. The public should respect the time she surely needs to recover. Perhaps delay a debate or two.
pneumonia? diagnosed by her doctor on FRIDAY? Then why was she still going to events (fundraising on Friday night, 'deplorables), memorial service this a.m.?
pneumonia in senior citizens is extremely dangerous... doctors order REST...
I suspect theirs is a marriage of convenience. The only loyalty both of them have is to power and money. She has tolerated his philandering due to her intense, insatiable desire for The Prize. She will go to any length to achieve that, even destroy her health. She feels she has sacrificed so much already. This time it's hers. Nothing is going to stand in her way.
I would not want to see her dragged across the finish line to her detriment, even if she begged them to do it. But then, I am very Type B, although well compensated for the business of organizing death and destruction. Type A people want to believe that those not driven to compete with everything, including themselves are meek. That is not so. pl
I've had pneumonia 3 times in my life... doctor always told me that coughing was a good indicator that infection had NOT gone into the lungs. Was NOT pneumonia.
I too, have had pneumonia several times, the result of too much exposure to the elements, too wet, too cold, fatigue, not enough sleep etc. My memory is that the recovery period is extended and exhausting. What is my old (now deceased) physician, Les Upton, used to tell me? Ah, green sputum good, yellow sputum bad and indicative of a lung infection. I wonder what color hers is. pl
I think things aren't as bad as many nihlists hope-for, that the USA has seen much tougher times (in my own 6 decades, even), while cry-babies are mad 'cause they're not getting their way. But then, I have baby grandchildren to serve as comparison to the over-wrought palpitating amongst us.
Pick your poison / pick your sickness; of the body or of the mind?
I wouldn't be surprised if the detail supervisor has very specific orders in these cases on what to do. Calling for a stretcher and a medic is not one of them, at least not where cameras are.
Look at how lackadaisical they are. This isn't the first time this has happened.
You know I do not like you but this seemed decent. Petraeus is America's premier general? No. He is a self promoting selfish jerk. I honor McCain's miserable experience in a communist jail but did not vote for him. pl
What's with this "dehydration" business?
That was used as the reason for her falling and suffering a concussion back in 2012.
You mean one of the most prominent people in government can't get good enough health care to keep her hydrated?
Is that such a problem?
If so, why is it?
Remember all those mothers who used to advise imbibing chicken soup to keep hydrated?
What does it say about Dr. Lisa Bardack if she can't give her patient the advice she needs?
And now we hear the same excuse used for her 2016-09-11 medical episode.
Can't she learn to keep hydrated?
Oh, and that "it was a hot day in New York" excuse.
I just checked the NWS stats for NYC this morning: 79 degrees from 8:51 to 9:51. http://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KNYC.html
They call that hot?
What BS, to borrow Col. Lang's term.
You gotta wonder how much Heaven and Earth is being moved to keep this from happening at the debates. The only thing worst than videos of her going syncopal would be Trump rushing over to catch her as she falls and succeeding at doing so..
Oh, and also regarding that "overheated" excuse.
If you look at the videos, she was wearing a jacket all the time she was "overheated".
If heat was the problem, couldn't she shed the jacket?
Men shed their jackets all the time when heat is a problem.
Why couldn't Hillary, if she was that hot?
Sounds like yet another judgment problem.
The first cover story of today (11 September), that she became "overheated", is of course fiction. The next story from her physician is that she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, 9 September, and became dehydrated (again? no fluids or potable water in New York City?) . However, Friday was when she attended the campaign event for the LGBT people, and said that half of Trump's supporters are "deplorables". She was strong enough, with pneumonia, for that event? She was not coughing pneumonia all over the LGBT people in attendance?--
This photo from today looks as if the lady to Hillary's right, who has glasses pushed up on her head, is indeed doing some type of neurological check: squeeze my finger; look at my other finger, etc.--
I've run on geriatrics with pnemonia as a medic. They're never in any shape to be campaigning. Furthermore pneumonia is a disease of the winter, not the tail end of summer.
VietnamVet,
"This is not unlike just before the American Civil War."
I've noticed the same hardening of attitudes from both sides.
Posted by: Fred | 11 September 2016 at 05:28 PM
"Where is her husband?"
Making funeral arrangements.
What could possibly be that metal thing that fell from her pants? Was that some battery from a medical device? Does she need electric pumps for fluid extraction or maybe continuous drug injection?
Anyway, sure such a deplorable thing as her health must be voting for Trump.
Posted by: Anonymous | 11 September 2016 at 05:32 PM
O lente, lente currite, noctis equi!
The stars move still, time runs, the clock will strike...
Posted by: irf520 | 11 September 2016 at 05:32 PM
All
I am of a different time. My instinct was to question the loyalty of a husband who did not insist on being at her side. He must have known that she was in bad shape. She is now said to have pneumonia. Surely Bill C. (and her daughter) knew that. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 11 September 2016 at 05:35 PM
A lot of people who are chronically ill die of pneumonia because they have a compromised immune system.
I don' think that Hillary fainted, or was suffering from the heat. The videos of her waiting for the van, show that she was able to hold her head upright. She apparently experienced some sort of loss of motor control in at least one of her legs.
Posted by: Cvillereader | 11 September 2016 at 05:46 PM
Ah, pneumonia. Apparently, then, her fits of coughing have been due to a lung infection rather than simple allergies, as she asserted then. The public should respect the time she surely needs to recover. Perhaps delay a debate or two.
Posted by: DC | 11 September 2016 at 05:58 PM
The mainstream candidates both remind me of someone:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Chernenko
Posted by: Cortes | 11 September 2016 at 05:59 PM
That's a good one Nancy :))
Posted by: TonyL | 11 September 2016 at 05:59 PM
readeroftealeaves
"nefarious nonsense?" You think someone faked the video? You saw it on SST? It is all over the internet. Not much of compliment but, thank you. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 11 September 2016 at 06:15 PM
pneumonia? diagnosed by her doctor on FRIDAY? Then why was she still going to events (fundraising on Friday night, 'deplorables), memorial service this a.m.?
pneumonia in senior citizens is extremely dangerous... doctors order REST...
I've got a bridge to sell.
Posted by: crone | 11 September 2016 at 06:16 PM
All
IMO she is a brave, driven, type A woman, but brave is not enough. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 11 September 2016 at 06:20 PM
Sir
I suspect theirs is a marriage of convenience. The only loyalty both of them have is to power and money. She has tolerated his philandering due to her intense, insatiable desire for The Prize. She will go to any length to achieve that, even destroy her health. She feels she has sacrificed so much already. This time it's hers. Nothing is going to stand in her way.
Posted by: Jack | 11 September 2016 at 06:24 PM
jack
I would not want to see her dragged across the finish line to her detriment, even if she begged them to do it. But then, I am very Type B, although well compensated for the business of organizing death and destruction. Type A people want to believe that those not driven to compete with everything, including themselves are meek. That is not so. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 11 September 2016 at 06:26 PM
I've had pneumonia 3 times in my life... doctor always told me that coughing was a good indicator that infection had NOT gone into the lungs. Was NOT pneumonia.
Posted by: crone | 11 September 2016 at 06:27 PM
crone
I too, have had pneumonia several times, the result of too much exposure to the elements, too wet, too cold, fatigue, not enough sleep etc. My memory is that the recovery period is extended and exhausting. What is my old (now deceased) physician, Les Upton, used to tell me? Ah, green sputum good, yellow sputum bad and indicative of a lung infection. I wonder what color hers is. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 11 September 2016 at 06:35 PM
I think things aren't as bad as many nihlists hope-for, that the USA has seen much tougher times (in my own 6 decades, even), while cry-babies are mad 'cause they're not getting their way. But then, I have baby grandchildren to serve as comparison to the over-wrought palpitating amongst us.
Pick your poison / pick your sickness; of the body or of the mind?
Posted by: ked | 11 September 2016 at 06:44 PM
kooshy,
I wouldn't be surprised if the detail supervisor has very specific orders in these cases on what to do. Calling for a stretcher and a medic is not one of them, at least not where cameras are.
Look at how lackadaisical they are. This isn't the first time this has happened.
Posted by: Tyler | 11 September 2016 at 06:46 PM
Stephanie,
Yeah Trump at a year older sure looked bother by the stifling 78 degree heat in NYC.
Spin this however you want to, we all know what we saw.
Posted by: Tyler | 11 September 2016 at 06:48 PM
raven
You know I do not like you but this seemed decent. Petraeus is America's premier general? No. He is a self promoting selfish jerk. I honor McCain's miserable experience in a communist jail but did not vote for him. pl
Posted by: turcopolier | 11 September 2016 at 06:48 PM
What's with this "dehydration" business?
That was used as the reason for her falling and suffering a concussion back in 2012.
You mean one of the most prominent people in government can't get good enough health care to keep her hydrated?
Is that such a problem?
If so, why is it?
Remember all those mothers who used to advise imbibing chicken soup to keep hydrated?
What does it say about Dr. Lisa Bardack if she can't give her patient the advice she needs?
And now we hear the same excuse used for her 2016-09-11 medical episode.
Can't she learn to keep hydrated?
Oh, and that "it was a hot day in New York" excuse.
I just checked the NWS stats for NYC this morning: 79 degrees from 8:51 to 9:51.
http://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KNYC.html
They call that hot?
What BS, to borrow Col. Lang's term.
Posted by: Keith Harbaugh | 11 September 2016 at 06:48 PM
You gotta wonder how much Heaven and Earth is being moved to keep this from happening at the debates. The only thing worst than videos of her going syncopal would be Trump rushing over to catch her as she falls and succeeding at doing so..
Posted by: Tyler | 11 September 2016 at 06:50 PM
"Where is her husband?"
Deciding if he wants to remarry a blonde, brunette, or redhead.
Posted by: Tyler | 11 September 2016 at 06:51 PM
Oh, and also regarding that "overheated" excuse.
If you look at the videos, she was wearing a jacket all the time she was "overheated".
If heat was the problem, couldn't she shed the jacket?
Men shed their jackets all the time when heat is a problem.
Why couldn't Hillary, if she was that hot?
Sounds like yet another judgment problem.
Posted by: Keith Harbaugh | 11 September 2016 at 07:24 PM
The first cover story of today (11 September), that she became "overheated", is of course fiction. The next story from her physician is that she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, 9 September, and became dehydrated (again? no fluids or potable water in New York City?) . However, Friday was when she attended the campaign event for the LGBT people, and said that half of Trump's supporters are "deplorables". She was strong enough, with pneumonia, for that event? She was not coughing pneumonia all over the LGBT people in attendance?--
http://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-transcript/
This photo from today looks as if the lady to Hillary's right, who has glasses pushed up on her head, is indeed doing some type of neurological check: squeeze my finger; look at my other finger, etc.--
https://twitter.com/smellyfed/status/775030514482810881
Posted by: robt willmann | 11 September 2016 at 08:01 PM
I've run on geriatrics with pnemonia as a medic. They're never in any shape to be campaigning. Furthermore pneumonia is a disease of the winter, not the tail end of summer.
Posted by: Tyler | 11 September 2016 at 08:06 PM